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Royal Rumble 2020 *Spoilers but NO BETTING TALK*

  • 26-11-2019 1:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,489 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Could Kofi win and be back up to the top again or is he never again going to be in the world title picture?

    Maybe Kevin Owens as the top face on Raw now

    Or will a NXT star win Adam Cole?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,252 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Roman for the men.

    It should be Rhea for the women but they'll go with the whingebag, Sasha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Well its stone cold Kevin Owens for me, what better event to kick off the Owens era


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,165 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Punk in at number 30 for the win and then on to Main Event WM.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Punk in at number 30 for the win and then on to Main Event WM.

    Better chance of me winning the lotto than that ;)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I presume at this stage that Brock and Bray will be champs going into Mania, unless something weird happens.

    So....I'm leaning towards Roman probably winning, and then being the one to dethrone the Fiend.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I presume at this stage that Brock and Bray will be champs going into Mania, unless something weird happens.

    So....I'm leaning towards Roman probably winning, and then being the one to dethrone the Fiend.

    Sounds about right. That mania match will be awful. Fiend no selling for 20 minutes and then 40 superman punches and 20 spears later the big dwag stands tall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭LibSuperstar


    Reigns for the men and Rousey/Banks for the women


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Wouldn’t be shocked if Shayna (dropped her title to Rhea Ripley on takeover before it) then won the rumble to challenge & get revenge on Becky at Mania. Revenge for Ronda and for the post match table spot at survivor series between the two in the match where Bayzler won but (got the victory over Bayley not Lynch) Becky stood tall.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Yea def think its time for Bazler to drop the title since she has pretty much beaten everyone in NXT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,460 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    There is no Takeover before Rumble, unless Shayna faces Rhea in the UK Takeover in January since I guess you could say it's Rhea's home brand.

    I'm guessing for this Rumble the NXT entrants won't be a surprise like they have been previous years and a win is more possible for them


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Yea def think its time for Bazler to drop the title since she has pretty much beaten everyone in NXT

    Only to give it to Rhea who'll beat everyone too. Don't think I could stomach Io jobbing to her so hopefully she's fast tracked to the main roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,489 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Reigns for the men and Rousey/Banks for the women

    Is Rousey due back?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is Rousey due back?

    Yeah, think she seems to be due any time now.

    Something that hits me is that this year's Rumble SHOULD be lacking filler in a big way. If NXT is now a "third brand", it should be split 10/10/10, which should cut down on a lot of the filler from Raw and Smackdown. Each brand should be able to put in 10 upper tier talents easily enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Could they go with a 40 man rumble again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭jface187


    When they had Raw, Smackdown and ECW in the rumble years ago there was also an awkward thing of which belt will the winner go for? Trying to make it seem ECW was in with a shout. Needless to say, no one ever picked the ECW one. One year they even had the ECW Champion in the rumble.

    Be interesting to see how they play the NXT angle to make seem as valid as the other two.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Could they go with a 40 man rumble again

    Given they do two Rumbles at a time now, I'd doubt it. From a time point of view, they'd be struggling.

    I wouldn't be shocked if an NXT guy won (and then just build up Roman vs Bray seperately). Someone like Keith Lee, or an Adam Cole, that got pushed hard over the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Given they do two Rumbles at a time now, I'd doubt it. From a time point of view, they'd be struggling.

    I wouldn't be shocked if an NXT guy won (and then just build up Roman vs Bray seperately). Someone like Keith Lee, or an Adam Cole, that got pushed hard over the last week.

    imagine someone like Cain V or Dominik winning it and they face Brock at mania

    The crowd would **** all over it


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭LibSuperstar


    Yeah WWE probably isn't ready to pull the trigger on that. If anything it will be a name that will sell [more] tickets for WrestleMania.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yeah WWE probably isn't ready to pull the trigger on that. If anything it will be a name that will sell [more] tickets for WrestleMania.

    Stone cold then

    Its amazing how something like that could actually happen nowadays in the wwe world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Stone cold then

    Its amazing how something like that could actually happen nowadays in the wwe world

    So our options are Velasquez, Dominic or Stone Cold?

    No


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Stone Cold for what exactly?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Stone Cold for what exactly?

    A publicity grabbing, unexpected Royal Rumble winner, apparently... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    It'll be Sheamus for one last run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    A publicity grabbing, unexpected Royal Rumble winner, apparently... :pac:

    I'd say theres more chance of Hogan winning it before going on to mania in his hometown and dropping the leg on lesnar then Austin coming back to wrestle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,489 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is Lesnar scheduled for a title defence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Really hope its lesner vs Cain velasquez 2 at the rumble instead of Velasquez winning the rumble and it happening at mania

    Reigns for the rumble and him vs the fiend at mania is the most likeliest thing to happen but I'd love for a new winner like Drew McIntyre or Braun to really kick start them to the main event scene. Brock vs McIntyre could be great


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    As far as I'm concerned the most obvious winners (and last year the two expected winners did win iirc in Rollins & Becky) atm would be:

    Roman Reigns (to then go on to face the fiend at Mania)
    Shayna Baszler (to then go on and face Becky at mania)


    I don't particularity want to see Brock vs Cain again but I think they could put on a much better contest than last time and don't think they would need a rumble win to set it up.

    A surprise return and rumble win for Ronda would be another option for the women I suppose especially playing off the finish to last years rumble and getting the 1 on 1 many argued we should have gotten last time with Becky but I'd still be expecting Shayna especially after how Survivor series ended. Wouldn't even rule out her attacking Becky after her Asuka match at the Rumble (given she has now dropped her NXT title) to pick that thread back up.

    edit: Who knows, maybe they will think we are better off with the Mania Main event (if the Male Rumble winner even is the main event) not being fought with that red light throughout it and that Bray could make a mid card Mania match a much bigger thing (maybe even revist his past again by facing Cena or Taker, and try to retire him, again). Bryan could get a shock win at the Rumble and then we are treated to Bryan vs Roman at Mania. That said I doubt the fans would boo Bryan especially now that he is back with the Yes shtick and they wouldn't want Roman to be booed (Personally I'd like face vs face with Roman turning heel in the match to beat Bryan but maybe I'm alone there) so I'd say Fiend/Roman is more likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,252 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I think the Survivor Series main event may have turned them off Becky vs Shayna. If Ronda isn't back then I see a Becky and ugh...Nia feud for Mania.

    I'm convinced Sasha is winning the Rumble. She probably had some demands before returning and I'm guessing that, along with ending her 0-4 Mania streak, a Rumble win was one of them.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I think the Survivor Series main event may have turned them off Becky vs Shayna. If Ronda isn't back then I see a Becky and ugh...Nia feud for Mania.

    I'm convinced Sasha is winning the Rumble. She probably had some demands before returning and I'm guessing that, along with ending her 0-4 Mania streak, a Rumble win was one of them.

    Not saying you might not be right but Nia does not deserve a mainia title match in any way just because she "broke Becky's face" back at the start of the Becky mega-push.

    I could actually see Sasha winning though as that would start a Sasha vs Bailey angle between the two buddies leading towards Mania (who the crowd would cheer though I dunno) and tbh I don't see a better match up for Mania on the SD side of the female roster while Becky/Shayna, Becky/Ronda or even Becky/Nia could be set up without the need of a rumble win (Shayna maybe less so but she is ready to change brands).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    As long as its not Corbin

    I'd like a new winner tbh, AJ styles perhaps to elevate him back to world title scene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,460 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I was wondering who on the SD roster could feud with Bayley since I'm sure the Lacey stuff will be over by Mania so Sasah could be a good choice. Of course that goes down the route of "ok, now it's my turn to be heel and you be face". But if Sasha wins, a Becky/Nia match is possible for Mania with Nia returning and attacking Becky during her match with Asuka or after. Though that match could take place before Mania at Elimination Chamber.

    Slightly off topic, but just looking at the upcoming PPVs to see where Becky could face Nia and between Rumble and Mania, March's Elimination Chamber is the only scheduled main card PPV. Maybe February's Takeover is taking the place of 1 and maybe a Saudi show.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Anna Numerous Shuffleboard


    Do WWE do actual surprises anymore?


    You'd imagine if Punk was to turn up at the Rumble it'd be something they'd advertise prior.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Do WWE do actual surprises anymore?


    You'd imagine if Punk was to turn up at the Rumble it'd be something they'd advertise prior.

    It’s all about social media hits and hype over surprises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,489 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    So now we have Lesnar (the WWE champ) entering the rumble as No. 1, maybe he wants WM off too so winning he wont need to defend his title :p


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    So now we have Lesnar (the WWE champ) entering the rumble as No. 1, maybe he wants WM off too so winning he wont need to defend his title :p

    The fact they didn't even address what happens if he wins in his announcement (I think) would lead me to believe he's not going to anyway.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    He's going to be eliminated by Cain methinks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Mentioned it in another thread that I think Adam Cole is gonna win this years Royal Rumble and Heyman’s promo last night where he referenced NXT makes it very likely now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Think it's time for a new main eventer and that man should win the rumble

    Drew McIntyre should be that man, great look and great moveset


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,460 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I know I ask this every year, but can we get the title updated to state no betting talk?

    Of course we still have someone come in who never or rarely posts and posts the favourite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I know I ask this every year, but can we get the title updated to state no betting talk?

    Of course we still have someone come in who never or rarely posts and posts the favourite.

    The Rumble is worth going offline from the usual wrestling places the week of the Rumble, between odds of who’s gonna win and possible surprise entrants being confirmed or whatever


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    updated the title and will try to bump the betting thread closer to the time so that people with that desire do have somewhere to go instead of here not that that will stop it from happening though :(


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,692 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    One thing I really appreciate this year is there's not really a clear front runner for the Rumble. Sometimes, they have a habit of one person basically saying why they should win and no one else doing so, making it more obvious.

    This year though....loads of choices.

    Roman seems a bit obvious, in terms of setting him up to go against the Fiend.
    Drew has gotten a decent build.
    Go with Seth getting a win thanks to his lackies helping him? Go with a Babyface Brock vs Seth & The Boys?
    Its not beyond the realms of possibility they give it to an NXT guy; I know someone said Cole, but I feel Keith Lee got a LOT of attention at Survivor Series, and he'd be a very believable challenger to Brock.
    Whispers of Edge or Punk returning.
    I hope it's not Cain.

    Women's one.... Becky and Asuka being in a singles match makes it look more like a Charlotte win. After that, I can't see really anyone in a position to challange Becky. Unless they bring back Ronda for the shock win, to move towards Becky vs Ronda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,460 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Has to be Corbin's year :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    January is always a balls depressing month but the rumble really adds a bit of excitement to it. Only 1 week away and NXT worlds collide could be epic too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,252 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Got an idea to make Aleister a star.

    Brock is gonna be number 1, so have Aleister be number 2. His music hits and the lights go out as usual with everyone expecting him to be laying on his little contraption. Except the lights come back on and he's behind Brock. Black Mass and he flips a dazed Brock over the top rope. Aleister sits down cross-legged staring at Brock. Crowd goes nuts.

    Instead we'll get faux-MMA bollocks with Brock and Cain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Got an idea to make Aleister a star.

    Brock is gonna be number 1, so have Aleister be number 2. His music hits and the lights go out as usual with everyone expecting him to be laying on his little contraption. Except the lights come back on and he's behind Brock. Black Mass and he flips a dazed Brock over the top rope. Aleister sits down cross-legged staring at Brock. Crowd goes nuts.

    Instead we'll get faux-MMA bollocks with Brock and Cain.

    Or worse Dominick to eliminate brock

    I think the first few guys after Brock will be to make him look strong and he will eliminate them easy and then a challenger appears


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,489 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I was wondering who on the SD roster could feud with Bayley since I'm sure the Lacey stuff will be over by Mania so Sasah could be a good choice. Of course that goes down the route of "ok, now it's my turn to be heel and you be face". But if Sasha wins, a Becky/Nia match is possible for Mania with Nia returning and attacking Becky during her match with Asuka or after. Though that match could take place before Mania at Elimination Chamber.

    Slightly off topic, but just looking at the upcoming PPVs to see where Becky could face Nia and between Rumble and Mania, March's Elimination Chamber is the only scheduled main card PPV. Maybe February's Takeover is taking the place of 1 and maybe a Saudi show.

    Nikki Cross winning ladies rumble match, feuding with Bayley and maybe after then Alexa?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I say this every year about the Rumble and I'll say it again as it's even more relevant in these days of 7 hour Manias but why don't they have a complete surprise winner of the Rumble, like a midcarder you'd never expect like a Cedrick Alexander, a Pete Dunne, or someone like that and spend the next two months building them up, battling with doubt, having people call him a fluke, etc

    Plenty of training montages and some strong offence starting off and bob's you're uncle a ready made main event star.

    Especially nowadays as the winner of the rumble barely main events Mania, so they're not risking it all on an unexpected winner. And it would put the Rumble over as a unpredictable can't miss event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Not just Royal Rumble specifically but something that occurred to me a while back. My oldest lad is big in to the wrestling and from what I can see , with shows over this side of the world and whatnot and some talent being from here, they very much acknowledge european fans and their buying power, how come the PPV's are not on saturday nights rather than Sunday seeing as they dont start till 12 or so here. What with kids having school on mondays and adults having work.

    I've probably missed an explanation for it at some stage over the years :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,289 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    If edge is in the rumble than I think if he doesn't win it he should be eliminated but his potential mania opponent which I think should be AJ Styles

    King Corbin nah but with the upcoming saudi bollocks I would be surprised if we get a dream match involving Edge and it could be him vs Styles there


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