The Farming Protest @ Dublin City Centre

D3V!L

they're going to make loads of friends by making people an hour late home in the evenings :mad:

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Come out and support the protest is what ppl should do

Have more important **** to do. Also I don’t have a tractor. Also I don’t see the point. What would the end result be? Are you there?

mariaalice

Wanderer78 wrote: »

something is going wrong though, there does seem to be a growing number of protests now

It a form of entertainment watching the various protesters outside the Dail.

Get worried if we see any sort of daft left joining the Farmers the water protester did not lead the revolution maybe the farmers will.

Wanderer78

is_that_so wrote: »

I really don't think so. The big ones just get highlighted more. Social media does magnify things especially the "anger".

oh i think so, what we re witnessing is monopolization of our economies, and this is one of its outcomes

Thinkingaboutit

I cannot be sure I'd agree with all their positions (if they have an agreed platform), but in this country if you don't protest, you're stepped on / ignored, like PAYE workers. There were PAYE protests in the past. Maybe it could be done again? Protests don't always achieve things immediately, but it can make politicians far more cautious.

is_that_so

mariaalice wrote: »

It a form of entertainment watching the various protesters outside the Dail.

Get worried if we see any sort of daft left joining the Farmers the water protester did not lead the revolution maybe the farmers will.

Nah, they'd just split instantly over what the revolution was!

king size mars bar

Nice to see Irish people every now and then make a stand for what they believe in. This country is ran so poorly for long and what do we do about ....nothing just get up go to work pay taxes on everything and then go home to watch the news and how our taxes are been wasted.
It's not the government that's to blame it's us as a people because we take all this **** and say or do nothing. I mean what kind of people are we that looks at loved ones lying on a trolley in a corridor , lets people die over religious beliefs, has a generation now that will not be able to buy a home, have families living in hotel rooms or worse on the streets, I could go on and all this will go until we all get up like these farmers and say enough is enough we want change.
Sorry for my rant but it seems our country is broken.

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

oh i think so, what we re witnessing is monopolization of our economies, and this is one of its outcomes

It really isn't. Most protests are around abortion and suchlike thing with a peppering of unknown local issues and then the usual suspects do get a run out about once a month over something.

Beechwoodspark

To ppl saying they have work/lives so can’t go and join the protest

What the hell do you think the farmers are doing-do you think this is all for the craic and a lark trip to dublin ?

Ppl are so so so so frustrated

Mixed with sheer anger

This protest is a result of that.

I wish it had been addressed by the minister and his govt but no.

Rural Ireland has had to take its grievances to central dublin and they should be addressed.

Plumbthedepths

Collie D wrote: »

Have more important **** to do. Also I don’t have a tractor. Also I don’t see the point. What would the end result be? Are you there?

Ah stop this was the lad that was an ardent supporter of the recent Extinction Rebellion protests in Dublin but wouldn't take a day off to show his support. He's a wind up merchant in my opinion.

heebusjeebus

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

To ppl saying they have work/lives so can’t go and join the protest

What the hell do you think the farmers are doing-do you think this is all for the craic and a lark trip to dublin ?

They are obviously just up for the sales

mariaalice

is_that_so wrote: »

It really isn't. Most protests are around abortion and suchlike thing with a peppering of unknown local issues and then the usual suspects do get a run out about once a month over something.

I do wonder about that, the last time I passed a group was protesting about some obscuer issue in Roscommon now it may well be important to them but what do they hope to achieve? the government have very little control over the issue in qustion, what the protestors were essentially asking was the government to direct an organisation to do something that would cost them a fortune in order to keep jobs in a locality.

Its an almost child-like belief in the fat chief or big man up there to do something.

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

To ppl saying they have work/lives so can’t go and join the protest

What the hell do you think the farmers are doing-do you think this is all for the craic and a lark trip to dublin ?

Ppl are so so so so frustrated

Mixed with sheer anger

This protest is a result of that.

I wish it had been addressed by the minister and his govt but no.

Rural Ireland has had to take its grievances to central dublin and they should be addressed.

Second time I’ve had to repeat a question to you.

Are you there?

Slattsy

Scroungers the lot of them. They've had lifetimes/generations of handouts and money thrown at them for nothing. They've been riding the gravy train too long.

Then have the cheek to come looking for even more with cap in hand and the "poor little country farmer we don't have a pot to piss in" attitude.

This shower are worse than the extinction rebellion lot, they at least have some worthwhile cause. There's no support from them and any chance they had of gaining any has swiftly gone with this bull****. Pardon the pun.

Beechwoodspark

At this stage creed will have to step down

Weak ineffectual and great man to bluster and bullsh1t. Ppl are sick of it

Creed out

Chips Lovell

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s unreal anger sense of entitlement in rural Ireland. .

FYP

Slattsy

heebusjeebus wrote: »

They are obviously just up for the sales

When is culchie day actually? Coincidence?!

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

At this stage creed will have to step down

Weak ineffectual and great man to bluster and bullsh1t. Ppl are sick of it

You going to apply for the job if he does? You seem qualified

Chips Lovell

Slattsy wrote: »

When is culchie day actually? Coincidence?!

December 8th. They could be here for a while in that case.

Beechwoodspark

Breaking news

Creed folded and is meeting the farmers

To all the ppl asking why the protest is on

This is a Small sign of progress

Wait and see time now

mariaalice

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

To ppl saying they have work/lives so can’t go and join the protest

What the hell do you think the farmers are doing-do you think this is all for the craic and a lark trip to dublin ?

Ppl are so so so so frustrated

Mixed with sheer anger

This protest is a result of that.

I wish it had been addressed by the minister and his govt but no.

Rural Ireland has had to take its grievances to central dublin and they should be addressed.

Whice is it now, beef prices versus the cost of production protest? or a general rural Ireland catch-all including the cranks protest?

Slattsy

Chips Lovell wrote: »

December 8th. They could be here for a while in that case.

They won't last that long with the Dublin prices for hang and cheese sammiches.

is_that_so

Worth noting that they can't even agree amongst themselves which letter to give Creed.

mariaalice

Slattsy wrote: »

Scroungers the lot of them. They've had lifetimes/generations of handouts and money thrown at them for nothing. They've been riding the gravy train too long.

Then have the cheek to come looking for even more with cap in hand and the "poor little country farmer we don't have a pot to piss in" attitude.

This shower are worse than the extinction rebellion lot, they at least have some worthwhile cause. There's no support from them and any chance they had of gaining any has swiftly gone with this bull****. Pardon the pun.

What a cranky rant.

PauloMN

Blocking roads is just a ****ty thing to do, regardless of the protest. I'm all for the right to protest but when it starts affecting the general public getting around then it's just wrong.

I've no opinion on this particular issue, I don't know much about it and I don't really care to be honest. I've no grievance with farmers in general either, but people dumping tractors and jeeps all over the south city to block roads are being pricks. The biggest problem I have though is how the authorities are pandering to all these protest groups. Only a couple of months ago we had that climate change crowd doing the same, they actually had Merrion Sq for the week and then were blocking roads at rush hour.

People have the right to protest, but people also have the right to freedom of movement - this to me seem like the rights of the general public are being ignored to appease farmers/climate change protesters etc..

Thelonious Monk

Im sick hearing these farmers feed us, not all of us eat beef, and they export the vast majority of it. Seems to be an oversaturated market, maybe try something else lads.

corner of hells

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Breaking news

Creed folded and is meeting the farmers

To all the ppl asking why the protest is on

This is a Small sign of progress

Wait and see time now

But you're at the protest right ?

realdanbreen

Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.

corner of hells

realdanbreen wrote: »

Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.

Are the hang sammichs gone already?

heebusjeebus

corner of hells wrote: »

But you're at the protest right ?

Don't be silly, he's at home charged by the farmers to give boardsies the breaking news.

Collie D

I’ve no issues with farmers in general. Hard job I’d imagine and providing a necessary product. But these guys sound like a right angry rabble. No doubt the type who see no issue clogging up a city but would be out waving the shotgun and ranting should you pull off the road onto their property for two minutes to take a call.

corner of hells

heebusjeebus wrote: »

Don't be silly, he's at home charged by the farmers to give boardsies the breaking news.

No, I think hes there in his wellies and old German army parka .

Brock Turnpike

"How to lose public support for your cause 101"

Absolute cretins.

ELM327

Absolute and utter morons.
Can we cancel their subsidies (read: handouts) already?

MrAbyss

mr.stonewall wrote: »

They are demanding a higher price but they are dealing with a cartel controlled by Larry Goodman. Also inaction from minister Creedregarding the agreement that was reached 2 months ago. Price of beef is now €90 per animal less than the EU average. No of them are looking for a handout just fairplay in the supply chain

and how is this cause by ordinary people just trying to get to work?

Beechwoodspark

ELM327 wrote: »

Absolute and utter morons.
Can we cancel their subsidies (read: handouts) already?

“Morons” who have achieved their first aim of getting creed to meet them

Yesterday creed said no way no how

This morning he folded.

This is small progress but progress nonetheless

celt262

MrAbyss wrote: »

and how is this cause by ordinary people just trying to get to work?

There eating the chape beef.

Brock Turnpike

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Morons” who have achieved their first aim of getting creed to meet them

Yesterday creed said no way no how

This morning he folded.

This is small progress but progress nonetheless

Put your cards on the table, Beechwood.

billybonkers

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Morons” who have achieved their first aim of getting creed to meet them

Yesterday creed said no way no how

This morning he folded.

This is small progress but progress nonetheless

Right so he agrees to meet them. Can they move the tractors now? They said they would if he agreed to meet

realdanbreen

realdanbreen wrote: »

Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.

? Hello?
Anyone know?
BTW I can't see how people want to live up here with all the traffic and everything.

Collie D

realdanbreen wrote: »

Anyone know where I'd get a good /cheap breakfast in the Nassau st area? I have the John Deere parked up there and don't want to be walking too far.

realdanbreen wrote: »

? Hello?
Anyone know?
BTW I can't see how people want to live up here with all the traffic and everything.

Haven’t a clue. We all eat caviar up here.

Beechwoodspark

realdanbreen wrote: »

? Hello?
Anyone know?
BTW I can't see how people want to live up here with all the traffic and everything.

Spar baggot st nearby does v good breakfast roll

Kc peaches is ok but little bit pricier too

AulWan

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I wish it had been addressed by the minister and his govt but no.

Rural Ireland has had to take its grievances to central dublin and they should be addressed.

Then take your grievances directly to the Minister at Leinster House, in a professional manner.

Farmers have no business clogging up Dublin with tractors and disrupting the day to day lives of ordinary Dublin folk who are just trying to get too / from work. You have no right to block the streets and have most likely lost what little support you might have gotten from Dublin people.

ELM327

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Morons” who have achieved their first aim of getting creed to meet them

Yesterday creed said no way no how

This morning he folded.

This is small progress but progress nonetheless

So what does meeting the minister achieve?
SFA. You dont have an aligned agenda.
Your motions are more akin to a communist society (enforce better prices on our supply chain or else) than a capitalist country.


This is nonsense and you are inconveniencing real workers to do it.

Paddigol

mr.stonewall wrote: »

They are demanding a higher price but they are dealing with a cartel controlled by Larry Goodman. Also inaction from minister Creedregarding the agreement that was reached 2 months ago. Price of beef is now €90 per animal less than the EU average. No of them are looking for a handout just fairplay in the supply chain

They're doing a super fantastic job of getting that message across. Not being sarcastic at all. Ultimately if you act like a clown you get treated like a clown. And these guys are acting like grade A clowns. I've no doubt that the beef farming sector - in fact the whole farming sector - is under severe pressure. But so are a lot of other sectors of society. Childcare. Transport. Housing. Pensions. Healthcare. The people that the farmers are deriding as 'them up in dublin' are getting squeezed from every angle. And an angry farmer trying to tell them that they have it easy is going to elicit one response "f**k you and the tractor you rode in on".

If that's what they're trying to achieve, then well done indeed.

ELM327

Paddigol wrote: »

They're doing a super fantastic job of getting that message across. Not being sarcastic at all. Ultimately if you act like a clown you get treated like a clown. And these guys are acting like grade A clowns. I've no doubt that the beef farming sector - in fact the whole farming sector - is under severe pressure. But so are a lot of other sectors of society. Childcare. Transport. Housing. Pensions. Healthcare. The people that the farmers are deriding as 'them up in dublin' are getting squeezed from every angle. And an angry farmer trying to tell them that they have it easy is going to elicit one response "f**k you and the tractor you rode in on".

If that's what they're trying to achieve, then well done indeed.

I think this is the response that the rest of Ireland should give them.
I know I will.

Beechwoodspark

ELM327 wrote: »

So what does meeting the minister achieve?
SFA. You dont have an aligned agenda.
Your motions are more akin to a communist society (enforce better prices on our supply chain or else) than a capitalist country.


This is nonsense and you are inconveniencing real workers to do it.

I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

Collie D

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

You first.

realdanbreen

AulWan wrote: »

Then take your grievances directly to the Minister at Leinster House, in a professional manner.

Farmers have no business clogging up Dublin with tractors and disrupting the day to day lives of ordinary Dublin folk who are just trying to get too / from work. You have no right to block the streets and have most likely lost what little support you might have gotten from Dublin people.

You think it's 'support from Dublin people' we are looking for?
We are done with that, we want fair play.

PauloMN

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I already said ppl should join the protest in solidarity with the farmers and rural Ireland. don’t want an urban rural divide but won’t be ignored and treated like the idiot brother in the attic either

Don't want an urban rural divide?!?!?!? :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac: Great way to achieve that goal, bring a load of tractors up to the city and cause traffic chaos for a few days.

Deluded....