The Farming Protest @ Dublin City Centre

Thelonious Monk

gozunda wrote: »

But dont forget the destruction of the environment and biodiversity on your own personal piece of urban blight. Fekers eh? !

You do realise it's far more environmentally friendly to live in cities and clustered communities where resources can be shared and less energy is required? Do you think Ireland would be in better shape environmentally if everyone moved into a one off house and became reliant on two cars per home? It has to be the thickest thing you people say on environmental issues - sure look at all you in your busy concrete cities!

MrMusician18

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You do realise it's far more environmentally friendly to live in cities and clustered communities where resources can be shared and less energy is required? Do you think Ireland would be in better shape environmentally if everyone moved into a one off house and became reliant on two cars per home? It has to be the thickest thing you people say on environmental issues - sure look at all you in your busy concrete cities!

I'm fairly sure he knows, I've told him.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112453927&postcount=339

It's an interesting thread imo

Thelonious Monk

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'm fairly sure he knows, I've told him.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112453927&postcount=339

It's an interesting thread imo

There's no point talking to the guy. Much like soybeangate, the facts say one thing, he says another. 2+2=5.

gozunda

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

You do realise it's far more environmentally friendly to live in cities and clustered communities where resources can be shared and less energy is required? Do you think Ireland would be in better shape environmentally if everyone moved into a one off house and became reliant on two cars per home? It has to be the thickest thing you people say on environmental issues - sure look at all you in your busy concrete cities!

You realise that large urban areas completely destroy any vestige of the environment yeah? Concrete, tarmacadem, roads, houses industrial estates - the list goes on. The higher the density the bigger the impact on the environment and surrounding areas. See the devesataing discharge of untreated sewage in Dublin Bay last year and practically every year. Add the constant poor air quality and an environment blighted by of miles and miles of low density detached and semi detached units - most which require multiple private vehicles to access shopping, work, etc you name it. Dont kid yourself cities are anything but environmental deserts. It has to be thickest things you people come out with on a regular basis. I dont believe those comments are even genuine tbh - they are full of such unbelievable bull****.

elperello

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'm fairly sure he knows, I've told him.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112453927&postcount=339

It's an interesting thread imo

Could you link to the thread please.

MrMusician18

elperello wrote: »

Could you link to the thread please.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112453927

No problem

gozunda

elperello wrote: »

Could you link to the thread please.

The link is above. (Just edited I see). Originally a thread about Fianna Fail and the greens - the OPs contributions are 'interesting' in that the OPs comments go off on a bender about rural areas 'dying' amongst some other fairly bizarre stuff including mad stuff abouts Gregg's sausage rolls of all things Not much different than the absolute rubbish in the first comment of this thread - simply looks like even more dedicated anti farming ranting and raving tbh. No change there then

Actually just checked the OP has linked to just one of his comments where I paraphrased his reply which claims "rural Ireland whinges, cribs and moans". Theres a lot more of that with a whole load of other posters to be fair.

https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?user=892732&thread=2058045927&sort=oldest&date_to=&date_from=&query=%2A%3A%2A

MrMusician18

gozunda wrote: »

You realise that large urban areas completely destroy any vestige of the environment yeah? Concrete, tarmacadem, roads, houses industrial estates - the list goes on. The higher the density the bigger the impact on the environment and surrounding areas. See the devesataing discharge of untreated serwage in Dublin Bay last year and practically every year. Add the constant poor air quality and an environment blighted by of miles and miles of low density detached and semi detached units - most which require multiple private vehicles to access shopping, work, etc you name it. Dont kid yourself cities are anything but environmental deserts. It has to be thickest things you people come out with on a regular basis. I dont believe those comments are even genuine tbh - they are full of such unbelievable bull****.

Sounds just like more like turf burning ribbon developed rural Ireland tbh.

WishUWereHere

Balf wrote: »

So there seem to be some limits to what the Gardaí will facilitate.

Gardaí won't allow secondary students to hold climate change protest tomorrow in Dublin city

Hopefully they apply some judgment the next time a few dozen agricultural contractors want to block up the city for a few days.

Yet it’s ok for extinction rebellion to block a section of Merrion Square for 3 days?

John_Rambo

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Yet it’s ok for extinction rebellion to block a section of Merrion Square for 3 days?

The Gardai removed them and some were arrested.

WishUWereHere

John_Rambo wrote: »

The Gardai removed them and some were arrested.

Maybe some were arrested, & Gardaí removed them, but they camped in Merrion Square for 3 days.

Thelonious Monk

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Maybe some were arrested, & Gardaí removed them, but they camped in Merrion Square for 3 days.

The street they occupied wouldn't really effect traffic at all

elperello

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The street they occupied wouldn't really effect traffic at all

Yes it was really only an unofficial pedestrianisation.

The student strike is back on,

No ban.

Balf

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Maybe some were arrested, & Gardaí removed them, but they camped in Merrion Square for 3 days.

Which, just to be clear, involved disruption to bus routes and did have an impact on traffic.

So a bunch of people, not much larger than the tractor-owning agricultural contractors, got to disrupt the city for three days.

For a protest involving a volume of people that could have been accommodated on the pavement outside Leinster House, with no disruption for anyone.

kennethsmyth

Balf wrote: »

Which, just to be clear, involved disruption to bus routes and did have an impact on traffic.

So a bunch of people, not much larger than the tractor-owning agricultural contractors, got to disrupt the city for three days.

For a protest involving a volume of people that could have been accommodated on the pavement outside Leinster House, with no disruption for anyone.

Holding up one street can be accounted for with diversions etc. the farmers held up multiple streets. Without the tractors they wouldnt have had half the effect. If they bring the tractors again, fine them, seize them if not moved etc.

Bishop of hope

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Holding up one street can be accounted for with diversions etc. the farmers held up multiple streets. Without the tractors they wouldnt have had half the effect. If they bring the tractors again, fine them, seize them if not moved etc.

Sort of like the Johnny cash song, "don't bring your guns to town son"!