Silent Hill Werewolf Game Thread!

Tegan WW · 02-12-2019 5:09pm

Phil WW wrote: »

My thingking is that it says the sum of the whole was greater than the sum of 'this', with 'this' being 'the sum of its parts'

Ah ok. So that is plausible but I am still a bit concerned by the connotations of value vs sum.

So far I think that and Brendan's are the best potential guesses.

Brendan WW · 02-12-2019 5:09pm

Phil WW wrote: »

This doesnt answer the question of how do we decide the best theories and when we submit the guesses.....

Of course it doesn't it was a response to "while we are working on what our best guesses are going to be, would anyone also like to suggest how we decide who guesses"

hence me saying who I thought should guess. The person with the best response.

Howeve if you now are asking for my opinion on the matter I would agree that we agree not to guess in the build up to lynch and that if there is no obvious clear candidate before an hour or two before then that it should be left until after.

If we were on a timeline after which we couldn't guess I'd say to set a time at which point we all say what we think the best suggestion so far has been but we don't need to to rush things as thats what happened with your guess and now we only have 2 more options.

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:09pm

"this is 'its parts'" would be my suggestion.

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:10pm

the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

so the value of the whole is less than the sum of the army?

I'm not getting how it fits

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:11pm

Brendan WW wrote: »

Of course it doesn't it was a response to "while we are working on what our best guesses are going to be, would anyone also like to suggest how we decide who guesses"

hence me saying who I thought should guess. The person with the best response.

Howeve if you now are asking for my opinion on the matter I would agree that we agree not to guess in the build up to lynch and that if there is no obvious clear candidate before an hour or two before then that it should be left until after.

If we were on a timeline after which we couldn't guess I'd say to set a time at which point we all say what we think the best suggestion so far has been but we don't need to to rush things as thats what happened with your guess and now we only have 2 more options.

There is a downside to this plan but im reluctant to spell it out....i suppose i have to....

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:11pm

Doris WW wrote: »

the whole is greater than the sum of its parts

so the value of the whole is less than the sum of the army?

I'm not getting how it fits

Basically, the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Patrick WW · 02-12-2019 5:11pm

Yes, it's parts makes sense. Have a guess Phil

Henry WW · 02-12-2019 5:12pm

Do we not have to guess before day ends? Or did I imagine that?

Can we change our minds once we vote?

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:12pm

Brendan WW wrote: »

Of course it doesn't it was a response to "while we are working on what our best guesses are going to be, would anyone also like to suggest how we decide who guesses"

hence me saying who I thought should guess. The person with the best response.

Howeve if you now are asking for my opinion on the matter I would agree that we agree not to guess in the build up to lynch and that if there is no obvious clear candidate before an hour or two before then that it should be left until after.

If we were on a timeline after which we couldn't guess I'd say to set a time at which point we all say what we think the best suggestion so far has been but we don't need to to rush things as thats what happened with your guess and now we only have 2 more options.

Im not being salty and i take your point, but zero was a legitimate potential answer. We know now its wrong, but it was worth a guess. Someone else came up with it too independent of me coming up with it, so i thought better i guess than a wolf guess.

Tegan WW · 02-12-2019 5:13pm

Henry WW wrote: »

Do we not have to guess before day ends? Or did I imagine that?

Can we change our minds once we vote?

On the vote do you mean the lynch vote? Pretty sure we can.

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:15pm

we can only guess during day phase. it wasn't stated that the guessing doesn't restart for next day phase

Brendan WW · 02-12-2019 5:15pm

Henry WW wrote: »

Do we not have to guess before day ends? Or did I imagine that?

Can we change our minds once we vote?

If your talking about guessing the riddle

The village has 3 guesses to solve the puzzle per day. Guesses must be typed in bold and clearly state they are in reference to this puzzle. A prize will be available to whomever solves the puzzle. Puzzle answers can only be guessed during the day phase of the game.

3 per day... so not just 3, so maybe no harm in having more guesses before we get close to lynch time. Can always try again tomorrow.

Tegan WW · 02-12-2019 5:16pm

Also on the puzzle Rikand's post said

"The village has 3 guesses to solve the puzzle per day"

I dont know if that means we get one puzzle a day with 3 guesses or if we get 3 guesses at that particular puzzle every day.

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:16pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Basically, the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

the sum of the army is greater than the value of its parts.

Ok, yeah, makes sense. I'm happy for that to go in as a guess.

Liam WW · 02-12-2019 5:16pm

Patrick WW wrote: »

A chronogram is a sentence or inscription that has hidden numbers which have to be summed for revealing a date of a particular event. These numbers are represented by letters of the Roman numerals: I, V, X, L, C, D, or M. For instance, the inscription "CHRISTVS DVX ERGO TRIVMPHVS" gives MDCXVVVVII or 1632.

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, the(i)r su(m) was
greater than the va(l)ue of th(i)s.

Think that would be all the roman numerals in the clue,

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, is 2652
m+c+d=i+i+l+m 1000+100+500+1+1+50+1000=2652

The second half totals i+m+l+i=1052
a difference of 25k or M with a dash over it

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:17pm

sorry, i misremembered about the 3 per day. so we should definitely get three guesses in a good bit before lynch time

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:18pm

Patrick WW wrote: »

Yes, it's parts makes sense. Have a guess Phil

I think if we hit a certain number of people backing a guess, its fair for the suggestor to make a guess.

My initial thought is that 10 people (approx half the village) liking a guess is fair; however id think it unlikely we will get this number to agree before lynch; and im loath to risk losing a prize that could help the village. So please like this post if you agree a total of 6 people agreeing on a guess is fair enough to guess. If you dont agree, then propose a number and we can like that number instead.

Henry WW · 02-12-2019 5:18pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Im not being salty and i take your point, but zero was a legitimate potential answer. We know now its wrong, but it was worth a guess. Someone else came up with it too independent of me coming up with it, so i thought better i guess than a wolf guess.

Ur play at best was a poor villager play, at worst wolfy.

You keep going on about how you know ur a villager but we don’t and at least getting some consensus is the good village play.

You don’t seem interested in that.

For me it’s a win-win to lynch you, at worst we get rid of a villager who likes to run things against the will of the village. At best we get a wolf

Brendan WW · 02-12-2019 5:18pm

Patrick WW wrote: »

Yes, it's parts makes sense. Have a guess Phil

I'm not sold on it's part being the answer. I could be wrong though and I'll readily admit that.

Also despite me taking on board his point that zero was a legit potential answer I'd say even Phil would probably prefer someone else making the next guess atm

Liam WW · 02-12-2019 5:19pm

Liam WW wrote: »

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, the(i)r su(m) was
greater than the va(l)ue of th(i)s.

Think that would be all the roman numerals in the clue,

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, is 2652
m+c+d=i+i+l+m 1000+100+500+1+1+50+1000=2652

The second half totals i+m+l+i=1052
a difference of 25k or M with a dash over it

25000 is a neat enough figure for me to say try it

Angus WW · 02-12-2019 5:19pm

Racking my brains a bit here. I think the answer to the puzzle might be LEGION

As in we are legion equals many is a biblical idea but Rome has many legions

Thoughts?

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:20pm

Phil WW wrote: »

I think if we hit a certain number of people backing a guess, its fair for the suggestor to make a guess.

My initial thought is that 10 people (approx half the village) liking a guess is fair; however id think it unlikely we will get this number to agree before lynch; and im loath to risk losing a prize that could help the village. So please like this post if you agree a total of 6 people agreeing on a guess is fair enough to guess. If you dont agree, then propose a number and we can like that number instead.

Good plan. I'd say we should wait til at least 6:30 before throwing in more guesses, just to allow the majority to finish work and get home to have a read and say their piece.

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:20pm

Henry WW wrote: »

Ur play at best was a poor villager play, at worst wolfy.

You keep going on about how you know ur a villager but we don’t and at least getting some consensus is the good village play.

You don’t seem interested in that.

For me it’s a win-win to lynch you, at worst we get rid of a villager who likes to run things against the will of the village. At best we get a wolf

Keep reading Henry. My post before this post.

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:21pm

Brendan WW wrote: »

I'm not sold on it's part being the answer. I could be wrong though and I'll readily admit that.

Also despite me taking on board his point that zero was a legit potential answer I'd say even Phil would probably prefer someone else making the next guess atm

I mean i think ive maybe dug my grave for some of the village anyway. Getting the prize and using it for the village may save me. But equally i know my role in the game so its ok if i dont have a prize to save my ass.

Doris WW · 02-12-2019 5:22pm

Liam WW wrote: »

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, the(i)r su(m) was
greater than the va(l)ue of th(i)s.

Think that would be all the roman numerals in the clue,

When the Ro(m)ans (c)ounte(d) the ent(i)rety of the(i)r who(l)e ar(m)y, is 2652
m+c+d=i+i+l+m 1000+100+500+1+1+50+1000=2652

The second half totals i+m+l+i=1052
a difference of 25k or M with a dash over it

Am i missing something here?

Where did 25k come out of when the two previous numbers is 2652 and 1052?

Tegan WW · 02-12-2019 5:23pm

I like the idea of consensus and also the idea of giving it a bit of time to get that consensus too. As Henry pointed out the 3 guesses per day thing we may as well use them.

I said earlier the guesses I currently favour are the 'it's parts' or 'Level 1'.

Henry WW · 02-12-2019 5:25pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Keep reading Henry. My post before this post.

Well that’s exactly the opposite of what you’ve spent the day doing

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:26pm

Ive to go home now, so ill check in at 630. If noone guessed its parts by then, or come up with a more popular guess, ill guess it, with village consensus of course. Thank this post if you think thats fair enough.

Clodagh WW · 02-12-2019 5:27pm

Phil WW wrote: »

I think if we hit a certain number of people backing a guess, its fair for the suggestor to make a guess.

My initial thought is that 10 people (approx half the village) liking a guess is fair; however id think it unlikely we will get this number to agree before lynch; and im loath to risk losing a prize that could help the village. So please like this post if you agree a total of 6 people agreeing on a guess is fair enough to guess. If you dont agree, then propose a number and we can like that number instead.

I support this but I don't want Phil or Oisin saying the answer

Phil WW · 02-12-2019 5:27pm

Henry WW wrote: »

Well that’s exactly the opposite of what you’ve spent the day doing

Ive spent the day coming up with info for the village, through quizzing Isla and now trying to solve this riddle. You want consensus, so be it. You want to now hold that against me, i cant help that.

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