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London Bridge Incident - mod warning in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Warning the end of this video shows the shooting https://twitter.com/brightl36034096/status/1200462224675889152?s=21

    Very brave members of the public, fair play to them.

    Hope the cops don't get in trouble for "executing" him effectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    Graphic, but also satisfying

    They absolutely did the right thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭katiek102010


    For those who think it's a False Flag.

    It's also happened in the Hague tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Mad the way anything happens in any situation and there’s a rash of experts on that exact topic on boards to enlighten us all.

    And similar expert's telling us look away there is nothing to see here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,428 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    He knew he was going to die today. It was a suicide mission and the police did the right thing. I don’t think you have to be Inspector Clouseau to figure out the who and the why but we are not allowed to say it. No doubt mental health issues.

    funnilly enough, I was thinking it may just have been a 'suicide by cop' mission


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,554 ✭✭✭tigger123


    For those who think it's a False Flag.

    It's also happened in the Hague tonight

    People who think it's a false flag are idiots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Boggles wrote: »
    Very brave members of the public, fair play to them.

    Hope the cops don't get in trouble for "executing" him effectively.


    The cops will not get into trouble,they shot n unarmed Brazilian on a tube and got off. Will be interesting to see if he had a vest on or are the cops lying about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    The cops will not get into trouble,they shot n unarmed Brazilian on a tube and got off. Will be interesting to see if he had a vest on or are the cops lying about that.

    The vest is clearly visible in some of the pics. What do you think the cops should have done with a guy who had stabbed two people to death and was wrestling with people on the ground while wearing what looked like a suicide vest?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Terrorist shot dead. Delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    So the culprit was a convicted terrorist. I don't know any more that that but should terrorists be released at all? I hope Priti Patel lives up to her reputation come Dec 13 because there defiantly needs to be a rethink in how these people are dealt with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    AllForIt wrote: »
    So the culprit was a convicted terrorist. I don't know any more that that but should terrorists be released at all? I hope Priti Patel lives up to her reputation come Dec 13 because there defiantly needs to be a rethink in how these people are dealt with.

    What happened today is how they should be dealt with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    The guy was a known terrorist who was convicted of previous terrorist crimes but was let out and tagged.
    So it seems this slaughter could have been avoided if it was handled right in the first place by the judicial process.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    The guy was a known terrorist who was convicted of previous terrorist crimes but was let out and tagged.
    So it seems this slaughter could have been avoided if it was handled right in the first place by the judicial process.

    Is it the lefty’s or the righty’s in charge of this utopia where people get charged and let out before they commit terrorism?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    What happened today is how they should be dealt with.

    If your convicted of planning etc terrorist offenses it should be a whole life tariff.
    If you leave the house armed and commence your jihad then you should expect to be shot in the head within five minutes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    The guy was a known terrorist who was convicted of previous terrorist crimes but was let out and tagged.
    So it seems this slaughter could have been avoided if it was handled right in the first place by the judicial process.

    Labour will be seeking an enquiry into this guys death today, just watch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    He knew he was going to die today. It was a suicide mission and the police did the right thing.

    Correct, and correct.
    Is there any research into the influence the promised 72 virgins has on these guy's willingness to die? People do a lot of crazy stuff in order to have their way sexual and may see it as more than just an incidental perk to their actions. And, could the Muslim authorities make a positive step and cancel that element, to see would it reduces the incidences?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭sid waddell


    The Tories have done it again.

    They have failed to keep Britain safe from Islamist terror, just like in 2017.

    Priti Patel reduced the terror threat on November 4th and now a tagged terrorist known to authorities, who they let out, knifes innocent people to death on the streets of London.

    Boris Johnson should hang his head in shame.

    He has the blood of innocent people on his hands.


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Tories have done it again.

    They have failed to keep Britain safe from Islamist terror, just like in 2017.

    Priti Patel reduced the terror threat on November 4th and now a tagged terrorist known to authorities, who they let out, knifes innocent people to death on the streets of London.

    Boris Johnson should hang his head in shame.

    He has the blood of innocent people on his hands.

    That is a totally and utterly ridiculous statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    That policeman is a hero.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭sid waddell


    Aegir wrote: »
    That is a totally and utterly ridiculous statement.

    Only if you live a right wing echo chamber

    Releasing dangerous terrorists leads to terrorism

    The Tories have form in this

    They cut 20k police leading to the Manchester bomber going unchecked

    The Tories are terrorist enablers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭sid waddell


    AllForIt wrote: »
    So the culprit was a convicted terrorist. I don't know any more that that but should terrorists be released at all? I hope Priti Patel lives up to her reputation come Dec 13 because there defiantly needs to be a rethink in how these people are dealt with.

    Priti Patel has the blood of innocent people on her hands

    This is a resigning matter for her

    Again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Jesus this kinda stuff brings out the trolls from all sides


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭sid waddell


    Boris Johnson ‘said f*** the families’ of 7/7 terror attacks’

    And he might as well have said the same to the families of the victims of this attack


    https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/16/boris-johnson-said-f-families-7-7-terror-attacks-9970567/?ito=cbshare


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    splinter65 wrote: »
    The vest is clearly visible in some of the pics. What do you think the cops should have done with a guy who had stabbed two people to death and was wrestling with people on the ground while wearing what looked like a suicide vest?


    I understand why the cops shot him, I would think that if they thought they saw a vest then the normal operational procedure would be to shoot. I just am a bit skeptical of some police operations and the things they say after. If there was a vest then the cops I think were always going to shoot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    This guy trying not to his finger prints on the knife.

    [imghttps://twitter.com/GeorgeRobarts/status/1200445403839246336?s=09[/img]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    The guy who got the knife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Have had a few pints and haven’t read the inevitable sh*tshow that these threads tend to become.

    I would like to say though how admirable and heroic the average people who tackled this scumbag were. Ordinary people who jumped barriers and sprinted at an armed man and took him down. That’s the true spirit of London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    The guy who got the knife.

    According to sky he was an off duty transport police officer,maybe he didn't want to wipe off the suspects fingerprints


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Also, as much as I don’t like the boys in blue; the cop in question absolutely made the right decision. Fair play to him. It’ll be one that he carries for the rest of his life.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    It is low IQ to carry out attacks, it is best to get on your moral high horse rather than ruin your reputation for eternity and your relatives reputation. It is just like the new IRA nowadays, you achieve nothing yet you ruin your reputation for nothing, the provos back in the way actually achieved something though, it led to civil rights.

    I was speaking to my mother about the provos recently, I said that the women must have loved the provos years ago and it is proof that women don't care about good morals as blowing up buildings wasn't good yet they still got girlfriends. My neighbour was in prison in 80s yet he still got woman pregnant.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    Apparently one of the people who tackled the terrorist grabbed a narwhal tusk as a weapon - that's something I was not expecting to hear

    https://twitter.com/theamycoop/status/1200513388889223169?s=20

    narwhal.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Fair play to the public who had a go at this guy. A knife is a scary weapon to go up against. I don't think I'd have the balls. And if a suicide vest was even a possibility well done to the Police for shooting him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,350 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    According to sky he was an off duty transport police officer,maybe he didn't want to wipe off the suspects fingerprints

    He was holding it to keep the prints on it but but through some cloth from his pocket away.

    The knife looked clean so maybe he wiped blood of it with the cloth.

    Fair play to him anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭randomspud


    This was pretty much the ideal way of handling a terrorist.


    The normal humans hold him down until someone with a gun shows up to carry out his sentence.


    No courts and idiot judges involved, no simpering psychologists to tell us how he thinks he is oppressed. Just two rounds into the useless **** that ends him and his childish "crusade".


    They should have ****ed his body over the bridge so he could be washed out to sea to provide a bit of grub for some fish.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bring on the day we get to debate, at national and EU level, migration of high risk crazies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭randomspud


    Bring on the day we get to debate, at national and EU level, migration of high risk crazies


    Excuse me! The term we've decided on in the past few weeks is "people seeking international protection".


    Disregard the fact that they seem to be predominately young men who show up with no identifying documentation whatsoever along with the fact that they have a curious habit of straight up disappearing into the ether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Have had a few pints and haven’t read the inevitable sh*tshow that these threads tend to become.

    I would like to say though how admirable and heroic the average people who tackled this scumbag were. Ordinary people who jumped barriers and sprinted at an armed man and took him down. That’s the true spirit of London.

    I read a post on another forum about how one guy jumped out of the relative safety of a car passing by to try and tackle the attacker. Fair play to him and the others who helped.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭5555555555


    Fair play to those brave men


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7740295/Knife-attacker-shot-dead-London-Bridge-known-police-security-sources-reveal.html
    London Bridge killer, 28, was jailed for eight years in 2012 for plotting to BOMB the London Stock Exchange and build an Islamic terror training camp - but was RELEASED last year and had an ankle tag on when he stabbed two people to death yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/29/london-bridge-reports-gunshots-central-london/
    Its being reported now that he was a convicted islamist who had been in prison for terrorism related offences.
    It doesn't say if he was a uk born citizen or was someone who arrived and gained citizenship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭randomspud




    A summation of what's wrong with western society.


    An 8 year sentence that ends a year early and tagging that doesn't do anything.


    The sentence for terrorism should be death. These people are completely opposed to our way of life and are just biding their time until they can kill us.


    You are trying to reason with people who think their god will give them a clatter of virgins for blowing themselves up.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    He has been identified as Usman Khan from Staffordshire

    https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1200576842077487105?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    Scarinae wrote: »
    He has been identified as Usman Khan from Staffordshire

    https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1200576842077487105?s=20

    He's been identified as being a xxxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    The Tories have done it again.

    They have failed to keep Britain safe from Islamist terror, just like in 2017.

    Priti Patel reduced the terror threat on November 4th and now a tagged terrorist known to authorities, who they let out, knifes innocent people to death on the streets of London.

    Boris Johnson should hang his head in shame.

    He has the blood of innocent people on his hands.

    One of those posts you hope is an attempt at trolling rather than serious. Jesus wept!!!!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    BDI wrote: »
    Some Aid workers offer conversions for food. They let people starve unless they embrace Christianity. That’s why they get attacked a lot of the time aparantly.


    But that’s not how they report it.

    And many aid workers have nothing whatsoever to do with any religious organisation (Red Cross, Medicines Sans Frontieres etc etc). They're not Missionaries. In fact, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make or how it relates to what's being discussed.

    TBH, even if they are religious and want to convert others, that doesn't really justify cutting off their heads and posting the resulting snuff movies on YouTube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Now that he's been identified as an Islamic terrorist, to the shock of probably nobody, let the usual accusations of racism flow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Police declare it a "major incident".

    Isn't this getting out of proportion!?

    Yes, it's a horrific attack on a handful of injured pedestrians, but does it really deserve to be dissected.

    Many of these incidents are so small and self-contained, they don't warrant the extreme media attention they gather.

    Well said before you knew any facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Once a person is convicted of terrorism ……. NEVER to be released.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Once a person is convicted of terrorism ……. NEVER to be released.

    Guilford four and the Birmingham six may take issue with that


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