Dara Murphy TD gorging at the trough?

171170

Snow Garden wrote: »

Ah now...it's highly probable that someone fobbed in for him when he was on the M50 on the way to Dublin airport from Cork. He hardly went into Leinster House on Monday mornings to admire the artwork.

I'd hazard a guess that he wasn't the only one! Hence I suspect that there's no real desire in quite a few TD's offices for a thorough investigation to be commenced.

The only TDs clamouring for it are the ones with a clear conscience!

mikeym

Once these people get elected to the Dail, they hop onboard the gravy train and dont give a flying F*** about the people that voted for them.

Td's are grossly overpaid.

expectationlost

Dara Murphy sues Irish Mail over ‘double jobbing’ claim https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dara-murphy-sues-irish-mail-over-double-jobbing-claim-hllktlq75

don't have copy of article to see how exactly the worded it.

Snow Garden

I am starting to wonder what TDs actually achieve in between elections. Most of them don't seem to do much of anything.

McMurphy

Snow Garden wrote: »

I am starting to wonder what TDs actually achieve in between elections. Most of them don't seem to do much of anything.

Make up the numbers at funerals.

Yurt2

The protocols around this badly need to change. If Noonan Kenny are grazing in the back field while picking up a TDs salary, the aught to be forced to resign from their seats.

nc6000

I can't wait for the election and the knock on the door from the FG canvassers.

Fair question would be if I vote for a FG candidate and they get elected how do I know they'll turn up in the Dáil other than to check in so they maximise the cash they get?

nc6000

nc6000 wrote: »

I can't wait for the election and the knock on the door from the FG canvassers.

Fair question would be if I vote for a FG candidate and they get elected how do I know they'll turn up in the Dáil other than to check in so they maximise the cash they get?

Canvassers of all parties should be asked this.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Canvassers of all parties should be asked this.

Who else from what other party/independent was taking the proverbial like Dara double job Murphy may I ask?

blanch152

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Who else from what other party/independent was taking the proverbial like Dara double job Murphy may I ask?

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/members/registerOfMembersInterests/dail/2019/2019-02-13_register-of-members-interests-dail-eireann_en.pdf


Have a look at the Register of Members Interests and you will see that quite a few of them have other jobs, quite a few more have company directorships.

I am not sure how much you can trust it for a full account of interests though. Mick Wallace is listed as having zero interests, yet we have heard in court recently about the properties he still owns. I am sure there are others who have less than a full declaration.

Johnny Dogs

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Who else from what other party/independent was taking the proverbial like Dara double job Murphy may I ask?

Any one who had someone else vote while they, themselves were elsewhere. https://www.newstalk.com/news/almost-half-tds-surveyed-newstalk-admit-voting-behalf-another-td-916919

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any one who had someone else vote while they, themselves were elsewhere. https://www.newstalk.com/news/almost-half-tds-surveyed-newstalk-admit-voting-behalf-another-td-916919

Also reprehensible but not the same as the question posed tbh.

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/members/registerOfMembersInterests/dail/2019/2019-02-13_register-of-members-interests-dail-eireann_en.pdf


Have a look at the Register of Members Interests and you will see that quite a few of them have other jobs, quite a few more have company directorships.

I am not sure how much you can trust it for a full account of interests though. Mick Wallace is listed as having zero interests, yet we have heard in court recently about the properties he still owns. I am sure there are others who have less than a full declaration.

I never asked who had other jobs/directorships, I asked who else was taking the proverbial (that's a polite way of saying ripping the piss)

Deleted User wrote: »

Any one who had someone else vote while they, themselves were elsewhere. https://www.newstalk.com/news/almost-half-tds-surveyed-newstalk-admit-voting-behalf-another-td-916919

You're answering a question that was never asked, and besides we have all agreed that the in/out of the chamber is irrelevant, but carry-on with the deflection attempt anyway, I expected little else.

blanch152

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I never asked who had other jobs/directorships, I asked who else was taking the proverbial (that's a polite way of saying ripping the piss)



You're answering a question that was never asked, and besides we have all agreed that the in/out of the chamber is irrelevant, but carry-on with the deflection attempt anyway, I expected little else.

Quite a few actually when you read the list.

Even though they have stopped Oireachtas members from claiming Oireachtas pensions, there is one TD claiming a pension from the Northern Assembly, another claiming a pension as a teacher, and a third claiming a private pension, all while still a TD. Cross-party by the way.

There are the Healy-Raes with their numerous businesses, there is the FF hotelier in Glendalough, barristers all over the place, just have a read.

What is left out is also interesting, most don't even list their own home. Of the party leaders, only Varadkar appears to be able to own his own home, neither Martin, McDonald, Howlin or Ryan list theirs.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Also reprehensible but not the same as the question posed tbh.

Absolutely. But it DOES show that there are issues across the board and not just the hated FG.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Absolutely. But it DOES show that there are issues across the board and not just the hated FG.

So what issue is similar to the behaviour of Dara Murphy?
The people of his consistency had no TD respresenting them despite voting for him to do so in the Dail.

Plumbthedepths

If it came up on the doorstep it was a factor....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/fine-gaels-burke-optimistic-about-chances-in-2020-general-election-967589.html

Plumbthedepths

Just found this, so Murphy did have an impact on the bye election for FG's candidate according to the candidate himself.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dara-murphy-controversy-had-impact-on-byelection-says-burke-968513.html

blanch152

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So what issue is similar to the behaviour of Dara Murphy?
The people of his consistency had no TD respresenting them despite voting for him to do so in the Dail.

That applies to anyone who lists another job on the Members' Interests.

When Gerry Adams the author is off writing somewhere, who is looking after the people of his constituency? When Kevin Boxer Moran is managing his company, who is looking after the people of his constituency? And so on and so on.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

That applies to anyone who lists another job on the Members' Interests.

When Gerry Adams the author is off writing somewhere, who is looking after the people of his constituency? When Kevin Boxer Moran is managing his company, who is looking after the people of his constituency? And so on and so on.

Are you defending Dara Murphy? It sounds like you are. Are you suggesting the 1 in 4 TD's that are landlords should quit or is your argument 'ah sure loads are at it nothing to see here'?
All the dishonest whataboutery in the world doesn't excuse what he did and the fact that FG allowed it.
Murphy had two jobs not even in the same country.
I know we frown on parish pump politics, but Murphy wasn't even in the country ffs.

blanch152

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Are you defending Dara Murphy? It sounds like you are. Are you suggesting the 1 in 4 TD's that are landlords should quit or is your argument as sure loads are at it nothing to see here?
All the dishonest whataboutery in the world doesn't excuse what he did and the fact that FG allowed it.
Murphy had two jobs not even in the same country.
I know we from on parish pump politics, but Murphy wasn't even in the country ffs.

I am not excusing anyone, I am just suggesting that the baying mob apply the same rules to everyone.

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

I am not excusing anyone, I am just suggesting that the baying mob apply the same rules to everyone.

Who says it doesn't? And why are people calling out Murphy a 'baying mob'? Are you suggesting we keep quiet like good boys and girls? Sorry, no.
You sell it like there's nothing to see here and call those critical a 'baying mob'. Is this the Green Party perspective? I think not.

charlie14

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Who says it doesn't? And why are people calling out Murphy a 'baying mob'? Are you suggesting we keep quiet like good boys and girls? Sorry, no.
You sell it like there's nothing to see here and call those critical a 'baying mob'. Is this the Green Party perspective? I think not.

This whole Green Party persona is getting increasingly closer to " Hit me now with the child in my arms":rolleyes:

James Brown

charlie14 wrote: »

This whole Green Party persona is getting increasingly closer to " Hit me now with the child in my arms":rolleyes:

The Green thing is an irrelevance at this stage. We've all our own opinions out there. Well most of us.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So what issue is similar to the behaviour of Dara Murphy?
The people of his consistency had no TD respresenting them despite voting for him to do so in the Dail.

Michael Martin missed a fair few days too, it seems. More than Dara Murphy.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dara-murphy-leo-varadkar-4939556-Dec2019/

“ Fianna Fáil Leader Micheál Martin today asked the Taosieach if would be willing to return the money that Fine Gael received to support Murphy in is work as a TD.

In response, Leo Varadkar said:

“I think an impression is being created that we was totally absent from the Dáil for two years – that of course isn’t true. In fact, he was present for more votes in this calendar year than deputy [Micheál] Martin was and the same number as deputy Martin was since the middle of July.””

James Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

Michael Martin missed a fair few days too, it seems. More than Dara Murphy.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dara-murphy-leo-varadkar-4939556-Dec2019/

“ Fianna Fáil Leader Micheál Martin today asked the Taosieach if would be willing to return the money that Fine Gael received to support Murphy in is work as a TD.

In response, Leo Varadkar said:

“I think an impression is being created that we was totally absent from the Dáil for two years – that of course isn’t true. In fact, he was present for more votes in this calendar year than deputy [Micheál] Martin was and the same number as deputy Martin was since the middle of July.””

TBF, can we trust he was 'there' for votes? By FG logic he might have been on face-time from Brussels telling someone to do him a solid.
The only people putting FF up as being worth anything are their supply and govern partners in Fine Gael.
The back and forth is all pre-election show.

171170

Matt Barrett wrote: »

TBF, can we trust he was 'there' for votes? By FG logic he might have been on face-time from Brussels telling someone to do him a solid.

Surely you meant "by Matt Barret logic"?

Because, by and large FG and FF both exist in the real world, rather than on Planet Matt - to paraphrase John Gormless.

James Brown

171170 wrote: »

Surely you meant "by Matt Barret logic"?

Because, by and large FG and FF both exist in the real world, rather than on Planet Matt - to paraphrase John Gormless.

I'd assumed you'd heard about the folk voting for each other. It was in all the papers.
Now you go on outside and play the ball not the man.

Plumbthedepths

blanch152 wrote: »

That applies to anyone who lists another job on the Members' Interests.

When Gerry Adams the author is off writing somewhere, who is looking after the people of his constituency? When Kevin Boxer Moran is managing his company, who is looking after the people of his constituency? And so on and so on.

Your usual deflection and nonsense. What about...what about.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Michael Martin missed a fair few days too, it seems. More than Dara Murphy.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dara-murphy-leo-varadkar-4939556-Dec2019/

“ Fianna Fáil Leader Micheál Martin today asked the Taosieach if would be willing to return the money that Fine Gael received to support Murphy in is work as a TD.

In response, Leo Varadkar said:

“I think an impression is being created that we was totally absent from the Dáil for two years – that of course isn’t true. In fact, he was present for more votes in this calendar year than deputy [Micheál] Martin was and the same number as deputy Martin was since the middle of July.””

Again can you answer the question asked?