Formula 1 2020 - General Discussion Thread (See MOD warning on first post)

Jordan 199

flazio

Is that the new car or is it the "new" livery on the old car?

pjohnson

flazio wrote: »

Is that the new car or is it the "new" livery on the old car?

VF-20 is the new car.

AMKC

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Which one had the fire truck drive onto the track Korea was it?

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You must be right. I remember hearing analysis of the impbank holidays on GDP. Each bank holiday has a small but real impact and people tend to spend money on bank holidays so they’re not a complete loss.

China really must be suffering. Oil prices have dropped too (but I’m never sorry to see the grin wiped off the Saudi Royals’ faces)

Thats the one only good thing from this Carnovirus the fact that oil prices have dropped which is good. They were starting to get out of control again. Still it would be even better if it dropped to 50 or better yet 40 dollars a barrel again.

Jordan 199

flazio wrote: »

Is that the new car or is it the "new" livery on the old car?

The new one.

Charlie-Bravo

Haas - the livery is so much nicer than the lack lustre of a certain missing energy drink livery from last year! the colours just didn't quite emulate the JPS livery of the 90s.

I don't think Haas have anything to loose by posting pictures of this year's car. I'm sure they'll test out things, bolt on a few bits, see what works. From my novice view of it, I can't see anything fancy on it, other than the splitter at the tray edges (V-shape). Hopefully they can unlock the car and be a little more competitive rather than being so hot and cold all season.

pjohnson

astrofluff wrote: »

Haas - the livery is so much nicer than the lack lustre of a certain missing energy drink livery from last year! the colours just didn't quite emulate the JPS livery of the 90s.

I don't think Haas have anything to loose by posting pictures of this year's car. I'm sure they'll test out things, bolt on a few bits, see what works. From my novice view of it, I can't see anything fancy on it, other than the splitter at the tray edges (V-shape). Hopefully they can unlock the car and be a little more competitive rather than being so hot and cold all season.

If they actually listen to Grosjean this year aswell it'd help.

El_Duderino 09

astrofluff wrote: »

I don't think Haas have anything to loose by posting pictures of this year's car. I'm sure they'll test out things, bolt on a few bits, see what works. From my novice view of it, I can't see anything fancy on it, other than the splitter at the tray edges (V-shape). Hopefully they can unlock the car and be a little more competitive rather than being so hot and cold all season.

Be fair though, they won't put the actual car out in the pictures. It's just the livery. They won't even use the actual car with all the pieces they have, until the final test. They all have to keep the actual car a secret - not that anyone expects haas to have made the best chassis.

El_Duderino 09

GarIT wrote: »

It's hurting the Chinese economy which is great for the rest of the world. Every day businesses are closed in China is a huge victory for the world, freedom and democracy. The only bad thing about 2019-nCoV is that it isn't more lethal.

Oh right. Yeah. Couldn't you take that guff to after hours?

SureYWouldntYa

They might only be worth 1 point but they could be important some day in a title race

But should the fastest lap point be awarded if drivers have used DRS in a lap? You have to be behind someone to be using it, a driver could lead every lap and have most of the fastest laps but one car getting to use DRS all the times they can might propel them into the fastest lap

El_Duderino 09

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

They might only be worth 1 point but they could be important some day in a title race

But should the fastest lap point be awarded if drivers have used DRS in a lap? You have to be behind someone to be using it, a driver could lead every lap and have most of the fastest laps but one car getting to use DRS all the times they can might propel them into the fastest lap

I don't see how it could be applied. But it's a completely fair point. Surely getting drs from backmarkers is the best way to get a fast lap. Get the drs and slipstream and overtake them

I like the idea of a point for fastest lap but this actually makes it a bit more about circumstances than raw speed.

But I still like the fastest lap point. It's a bit of excitement.

antodeco

I think the fastest lap point should be applied to anybody, not just the top 10

El_Duderino 09

antodeco wrote: »

I think the fastest lap point should be applied to anybody, not just the top 10

I don't agree with that. Then everyone outside the top 10 could pit on the last lap for soft tyres and go for the fast lap. There's no jeopardy in them pitting. At least the top 10 has something to lose.

I agree with only the points scorers being eligible.

pjohnson

Yeah Formula E had it open to anyone but led to a few farces so then limited it to top10.

billybonkers

Merc livery is out

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148193/mercedes-reveals-new-livery-for-2020-f1-car

Frank Bullitt

billybonkers wrote: »

Merc livery is out

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148193/mercedes-reveals-new-livery-for-2020-f1-car

Not too bad. cleaner than the previous ones.

Jordan 199

El_Duderino 09

Gintonious wrote: »

Not too bad. cleaner than the previous ones.

Totally on brand. Clear, Plain, muted. They would be crazy to change it considering they're on top. But samey though.

flazio

It's a wonder that the new sponsor didn’t go for a spot on the Halo, given how popular the Red Halo was after Laudas death.

Cookie_Monster

ugh, Ineos. Is there any sport they won't taint

Anjobe

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

ugh, Ineos. Is there any sport they won't taint

I think F1 is way beyond tainting by any corporate sponsorship. Whatever you think of Ineos, how do you compare them with the egregious human rights abuses committed by some of the regimes that F1 buddies up to. F1 will be in Saudi Arabia before long too.

El_Duderino 09

Anjobe wrote: »

I think F1 is way beyond tainting by any corporate sponsorship. Whatever you think of Ineos, how do you compare them with the egregious human rights abuses committed by some of the regimes that F1 buddies up to. F1 will be in Saudi Arabia before long too.

I’ve never worried about sponsors. They’re just advertising their wears whether it’s cigarettes, or brand Saudi. But what really interests me is when people express allegiance with sponsors. Whether it’s the Camel Williams or John player lotus. And some people took issue with racing point having a breast cancer charity as a sponsor.

There’s no doubt sponsors are far more emotive than is sensible. That’s why advertising works, I suppose.

Anjobe

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I’ve never worried about sponsors. They’re just advertising their wears whether it’s cigarettes, or brand Saudi. But what really interests me is when people express allegiance with sponsors. Whether it’s the Camel Williams or John player lotus. And some people took issue with racing point having a breast cancer charity as a sponsor.

There’s no doubt sponsors are far more emotive than is sensible. That’s why advertising works, I suppose.

Going a bit off topic now, but I would be far more concerned with the proliferation of online betting companies as shirt sponsors in soccer than with a chemical company with a dodgy reputation for (non) compliance with pollution regulations.

In cycling lots of people didn't like Team Sky, so when Ineos started funding them it was just something else to use to criticise them, and I guess it will be the same with Mercedes here.

Inviere

Anjobe wrote: »

I think F1 is way beyond tainting by any corporate sponsorship. Whatever you think of Ineos, how do you compare them with the egregious human rights abuses committed by some of the regimes that F1 buddies up to. F1 will be in Saudi Arabia before long too.

Rumour has it there's even a US gp. They'll literally go anywhere...

Killinator

Ferrari breaks cover...
It's a Ferrari, it's red, that concludes the tour....there are no refunds!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.vettel-and-leclerc-reveal-ferraris-2020-f1-car-the-sf1000.XQ64BRkNj4fo1jHG0V7on.html

Jordan 199

Frank Bullitt

Love the retro numbers, very mid 90's.

El_Duderino 09

Have the livery designers gone on strike or something?

Jordan 199

flazio

Has Seb named it?

Jordan 199

Renault and Red Bull launches today.

El_Duderino 09

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Renault and Red Bull launches today.

Three incredibly conservative liveries so far.

Red bull might do a testing livery but they never change the real livery very much.

I wonder if we're into the phase of the formula where they have run out of big in innovations and will converge in terms of performance this year.

It would be great if the midfield could keep up with the big 3 and really punish them for any mistakes.

flazio

https://twitter.com/redbullracing/status/1227517756586811393?s=19
I'm sure someone can spot aero changes but other than that....

H3llR4iser

Gintonious wrote: »

Love the retro numbers, very mid 90's.

Someone else noticed it, I'm glad. Now, if they did away with the stupid "driver's number system" and the numbers on that Ferrari were 27 & 28, that'd be even better

recyclebin

Looks like the Chinese Grand Prix is cancelled this year. I think other sporting events outside China could be in trouble too if coronas spreads quickly.

Cool_CM

Yup, FIA Facebook has officially announced it as 'Postponed'

https://www.facebook.com/291979350832700/posts/2958086304221978/

El_Duderino 09

The Renault is entirely black matt. Looks good.

https://mobile.twitter.com/renaultf1team/status/1227594652838170624

Jordan 199

SureYWouldntYa

It looks good, but thankfully Haas is changing to a bit of white because 2019 Haas and 2020 Renault are very similar

Cork Trucker

Ricciardo's helmet is terrible, he should change the design.

Frank Bullitt

RB with a mad looking snout!

H3llR4iser

Oh dear, the RB has a...ehrm...gentleman's sausage.

skipper_G

The weird snout and/or phallic nose appendages are positively ghastly

flazio

According to Renault Insta story, that's not the final car. Seems like there could be last minute problems.

Frank Bullitt

billybonkers

Buckle up boys that Red Bull looks mean...










Merc 1-2 confirmed

the_pen_turner

jesus. some of these cars are like a game of buckeroo with all the bits sticking out here and there

El_Duderino 09

flazio wrote: »

According to Renault Insta story, that's not the final car. Seems like there could be last minute problems.

None of them are the final car. They bring a basic car to first test session and an updated version to the last test. They don't bring the final car until Melbourne.

The cars they show at the reveal will give nothing away. I'd say they will even put red herrings on the car for launch to make sure nobody actually knows what they're really doing.

antodeco

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The cars they show at the reveal will give nothing away. I'd say they will even put red herrings on the car for launch to make sure nobody actually knows what they're really doing.

Imagine getting hit in the face by a fish at 300kmh.

El_Duderino 09

antodeco wrote: »

Imagine getting hit in the face by a fish at 300kmh.

They bolt the herrings on securely.

P.S. no animals were harmed in making this metaphor.