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Matt Barrett wrote: »Every criticism of Fine Gael is Margret Cash or someone else's fault.
Name one 'solve it today' politician or poster. You go back to this fantasy as a basis for your deflections. Stating FG policy is making matters worse does not equate to 'solve it today', mind they could start today.
Sheer fantasy Blanch. How is more housing at prices out of many tax payers reach helping?
Here you are *not* defending Fine Gael. With a mention of climate change for the legitimacy
Not to worry, they'll do alright next election I'm sure.
The world is grey, it isn't black and white, either for or against, as some wish it to be.
I can acknowledge the good things that FG have done, while also wanting them to be replaced by a government that includes the Greens. I accept that that is a difficult complex, nuanced and multi-faceted opinion, that isn't necessarily suitable for a discussion board, where people form themselves into groups of like-minded clones with bipartisan opinions. Often, these boards look like a microcosm of the North.
By the way, stating FG policy is making it worse does not make it so, especially when all of the relevant indicators show that things are improving strongly on the house-building front. Do you want a return to the boom as under FF where we were building unsustainably in the wrong places?0 -
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You have a point, and Eric does too. If people on social housing lists are allowed turn down offers because they are not in the city centre or not near Mum and Dad, then the housing problem will never be solved.
Even worse, the commuting hell will get worse as actual workers won't have anywhere to live near the city. If the likes of Matt and others are really interested in social housing for workers and really serious about it (I suspect they are not), they would be insisting on tough measures on social welfare recipients that don't accept the first offer.
So folk either agree with you on social housing or they aren't genuine?
I think if you are from an area you should be able to ask for housing in that area. How ever trendy or expensive the market deems it should not matter a jot IMO. Also you forget an LA only has reign over it's own locality.
Again, social housing is for low income and those seeking work. There should be nobody out of work by choice, we all agree I'm sure.
No idea where you think you read we should go easy on chancers and fraudsters but I can see how it helps your comment.I don't know what to say to this.
We have a homeless crisis = there are not enough homes.
A poster asks what have more houses got to do with solving the crisis?????Utterly bizarre.
The only solution is more houses and homes. If the situation is as acute as you and others claim it to be, where those homes come from doesn't matter, they just need to be built!
Come off it. Are these new builds to be given to the homeless?
More homes at exorbitant prices will likely be bought up by vulture funds to be rented or leased to the state/LA. How is that a good deal for the tax payer?
We need more affordable and social. You and FG citing 'new builds' is a con.
There's a crisis and it's going nowhere. Other threads for housing, let's keep it country.0 -
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So now, FG's opinion matters to you and is a credible justification for your point and argument??Matt Barrett wrote: »Only way I can polietly account for this tired rethoric...
Ah, I'm right. Let's just say, myself, Leo, Eoghan, FG and every political party and independent politician in the land agree to differ
The rest is rabbit hole 'let them eat cake' shyte. Despite alleged machinations in the direction of solving the crisis I'd guess your view is the behind closed doors Fine Gael view, based on current policy any way.
There's no housing crisis. We're looking at buying another investment property - a few years after selling the first one - and there's plenty out there within 1 hour of dublin for less than 150k.
The "crisis" is that someone wants a free forever home in Dublin. Not that someone needs a home. If they needed a home they would take one in Leitrim, Longford, Cavan etc.0 -
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Matt Barrett wrote: »
Come off it. Are these new builds to be given to the homeless?
More homes at exorbitant prices will likely be bought up by vulture funds to be rented or leased to the state/LA. How is that a good deal for the tax payer?
We need more affordable and social. You and FG citing 'new builds' is a con.
There's a crisis and it's going nowhere. Other threads for housing, let's keep it country.
You are economically illiterate.
Please, read up a little on supply and demand.0 -
Matt Barrett wrote: »Come off it. Are these new builds to be given to the homeless?
More homes at exorbitant prices will likely be bought up by vulture funds to be rented or leased to the state/LA. How is that a good deal for the tax payer?
We need more affordable and social. You and FG citing 'new builds' is a con.
There's a crisis and it's going nowhere. Other threads for housing, let's keep it country.
The homeless are almost the last people new builds should be given to. Many many out there struggling and living in undersized accommodation, paying crazy rent (or back in with the parents) and going to work every day. These people should be prioritised
We need more affordable housing near the cities0 -
Matt Barrett wrote: »So folk either agree with you on social housing or they aren't genuine?
I think if you are from an area you should be able to ask for housing in that area. How ever trendy or expensive the market deems it should not matter a jot IMO. Also you forget an LA only has reign over it's own locality.
Hundreds of thousands of workers can't live in the area that they grew up in because it is unaffordable, yet you believe that all those on the housing list (only a small minority of whom work) should get that choice.
How is that fair?Matt Barrett wrote: »Come off it. Are these new builds to be given to the homeless?
More homes at exorbitant prices will likely be bought up by vulture funds to be rented or leased to the state/LA. How is that a good deal for the tax payer?
We need more affordable and social. You and FG citing 'new builds' is a con.
There's a crisis and it's going nowhere. Other threads for housing, let's keep it country.
It is only in Ireland that a poster who talks all day about the homeless crisis thinks that building houses is not the answer. That does not make any sense.
Posters like you stopped talking about the crisis in the finances and the country being closed down at the end of the week once a FG government sorted out the finances. You guys then talked about jobs meaning more than money, but that talk stopped too when a FG government got record employment and only people that won't work are unemployed. Now that houses are being built after years of hearing crying about no housing being built, we are told that building houses won't solve the homeless problem. We can see through the bluster and the nonsense economics.
However, in a way you are right. Building houses won't solve the housing problem. There will always be someone who believes that they have an entitlement to a house where they grew up (with a back garden for a trampoline), even when there is no more space in the locality. There will always be someone who has two houses, wastes all the money and ends up dead on the street. You can't help people with an entitlement culture and you can't help people who won't help themselves. Like it or not, the homeless will always be with us in the same way that there will always be some who won't work.0 -
Matt Barrett wrote: »
Come off it. Are these new builds to be given to the homeless?
More homes at exorbitant prices will likely be bought up by vulture funds to be rented or leased to the state/LA. How is that a good deal for the tax payer?
We need more affordable and social. You and FG citing 'new builds' is a con.
There's a crisis and it's going nowhere. Other threads for housing, let's keep it country.
If I leave my rented apartment to move into my new build apartment, what do you think happens to my old apartment?
Hint: it doesn't disappear.0 -
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