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All's not well in FG.

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    #662
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    blanch152 wrote: »
    This is the reason above all. If you lose an election or perform badly for some self-inflicted reasons, you don't usually get a second chance from a political party.

    This man is laughing.

    18-46-23-image.jpg


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    #663
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Fine Gael will get some doing in Rural Ireland next time round . Their Dublin Dublin Dublin focus and their head in the sand approach to traveller crime in Rural Ireland carry on will see them lose many rural votes which will cost them quite a few seats .

    I don't think so because if you were to ask the question who would you more likely get justice with do you think policies would be implemented from anyone but FG or maybe FF to deal with them?


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    #664
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Well yes, that is part of what I am saying, but as her views prevented her winning the by-election, a situation whereby someone with her views ended up on the FG general election ticket is not possible.

    It is only surmised that she did not win because of her views. For all we know she may have picked up votes because of them and lost votes for a variety of other reasons.
    I don`t see where you can say that had she won she would not be on the FG general election ticket.
    FG still canvased for her when the knew what her views were and Charlie Flanagan a FG grandee was adamant during the count that she would be running for FG in the general election.
    It looks as if failing to win was seen as a much bigger sin than her views.


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    #665
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I see youth employment is back up to pre recession levels.

    Suppose won’t be talked about here.

    Would be nice to actually discuss some positive news for once.

    Only the bad stuff as we know by now.


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    #666
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I see youth employment is back up to pre recession levels.

    Suppose won’t be talked about here.

    Only the bad stuff as we know by now.

    Youth employment is back up!
    I would have thought modern chimney would be too narrow nowadays


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    #667
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I see youth employment is back up to pre recession levels.

    Suppose won’t be talked about here.

    Would be nice to actually discuss some positive news for once.

    Only the bad stuff as we know by now.

    Supermacs expanding? Nice.


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    #668
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Yep.

    Just as I thought.


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    #669
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Yep.

    Just as I thought.

    What's wrong with an honest job?

    Supermacs


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    #670
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Supermacs expanding? Nice.

    You are an unrelenting negative individual.


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    #671
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    If she runs in Wexford as an Independent in the GE, she WILL get elected.

    The Mick Wallace vote has no home still, and it wasn't because he was a champagne socialist that he got elected, it was because he was anti-establishment. It doesn't matter what side of anti-establishment, so long as someone is sticking it to FFG, thats the Wexico way.

    She won’t.

    Those Wallace votes were purely personal votes. She could have got the Wallace vote and the FG vote and she still couldn’t beat FF and Labour.

    It will be as you were in Wexford. We hear this all the time with people like Verona Murphy. She’s saying what the people like to hear etc etc. It happened with Peter Casey and he got walloped, twice.

    She won’t pick up any transfers, either.


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    #672
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    You are an unrelenting negative individual.

    Great addition to the discussion Johnny. Top marks. You and jingles get the same bus?
    I'm hopeful and think we deserve better over defending and making excuses for clowns and wasters ;)


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    #673
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Alice?Who dafuk is Alice? wrote: »
    Its strange that there is so much anger in the country and at the government if we are booming as the FGers say.

    Maybe because its only the rich who are booming this time. And only in Dublin and surrounding commuter belt.

    I’d ask for a link but I know the answer.

    So much lies and nonsense posted here without any links or evidence needed.


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    #674
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Great addition to the discussion Johnny. Top marks. You and jingles get the same bus?

    Hilarious.

    There really is no constructive discussion with you without pics and slagging as your go too.


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    #675
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    There really is no constructive discussion with you without pics and slagging as your go too.

    You are only in to stir.
    We were talking about Verona Murphy.


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    #676
    bigroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,136 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    What's wrong with an honest job?

    Supermacs
    It must be very well paid position to cover running costs and expensive delivery insurance. Or did they forget about that part.


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    #677
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    bigroad wrote: »
    It must be very well paid position to cover running costs and expensive delivery insurance. Or did they forget about that part.

    Funnily enough, the wages are to be: discussed at interview.
    Mind any driver would be smart to steer wide of Alan Farrell.


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    #678
    LuasSimon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Faugheen wrote: »
    She won’t.

    Those Wallace votes were purely personal votes. She could have got the Wallace vote and the FG vote and she still couldn’t beat FF and Labour.

    It will be as you were in Wexford. We hear this all the time with people like Verona Murphy. She’s saying what the people like to hear etc etc. It happened with Peter Casey and he got walloped, twice.

    She won’t pick up any transfers, either.

    Peter Casey came second in a presidential election and got 343,000 votes , hardly walloped ?
    Despite the Dublin pro traveller media hounding anyone supporting his views on traveller crime or their sense of entitlement despite never doing a days work


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    #679
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Faugheen wrote: »
    She won’t.

    Those Wallace votes were purely personal votes. She could have got the Wallace vote and the FG vote and she still couldn’t beat FF and Labour.

    It will be as you were in Wexford. We hear this all the time with people like Verona Murphy. She’s saying what the people like to hear etc etc. It happened with Peter Casey and he got walloped, twice.

    She won’t pick up any transfers, either.

    Casey polled huge numbers on both occasions based on nothing other than anti traveller tirades so if Murphy does decide to run I would not write her off.
    Even if she did not take a seat she could seriously damage the prospect of others


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    #680
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,764 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Casey polled huge numbers on both occasions based on nothing other than anti traveller tirades so if Murphy does decide to run I would not right her off.
    Even if she did not take a seat she could seriously damage the prospect of others
    "Huge numbers" that didnt actually get him elected......Casey the most succesfull championed failure in recent times :pac:


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    #681
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Murphy like Casey is likely just looking for a lightning rod. It's unfair to play upon genuine concerns and fears to try get elected when you likely couldn't care less about the issue.


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    #682
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Faugheen wrote: »
    She won’t.

    Those Wallace votes were purely personal votes. She could have got the Wallace vote and the FG vote and she still couldn’t beat FF and Labour.

    In 2016, Wallace got just under 8,000 first preferences and relatively few transfers, how can you call that a personal vote and where is it catered for in the likely runners? That was after his tax avoidance had been laid bare and people still voted for him because he was anti-establishment.


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    #683
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    There really is no constructive discussion with you without pics and slagging as your go too.

    I though the picture of Riley summed up the point very well.
    Seems he is keen to go for the hat-trick.
    Seeing as he has lost elections twice, (badly) in succession do you think he deserves another chance, or should he also be sidelined for not getting elected in the recent by-election.


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    #684
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    pjohnson wrote: »
    "Huge numbers" that didnt actually get him elected......Casey the most succesfull championed failure in recent times :pac:

    No he didn`t get elected, nor should he have been imo, but he did appeal to a lot of voters with his views.
    I have seen Verona Murphy on political panels on TV and she struck me as a pretty sharp lady (a lot sharper than Casey) that would not shot off her mouth during an election campaign unless she thought there were votes in it.
    Be interesting to see if she does run just how much havoc she could cause even not winning a seat.


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    #685
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    charlie14 wrote: »
    I though the picture of Riley summed up the point very well.
    Seems he is keen to go for the hat-trick.
    Seeing as he has lost elections twice, (badly) in succession do you think he deserves another chance, or should he also be sidelined for not getting elected in the recent by-election.

    What an excellent question Charlie, perhaps Jingle all the way will answer this one, last time I think he scarpered when asked a somewhat uncomfortable question regarding siteserv, or maybe he answered it but I didn't see it.


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    #686
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Reilly is a party grandee and former deputy leader, he can come and go as he pleases.


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    #687
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    What an excellent question Charlie, perhaps Jingle all the way will answer this one, last time I think he scarpered when asked a somewhat uncomfortable question regarding siteserv, or maybe he answered it but I didn't see it.

    If he/she did it was probably just "unbelievable" so easy to miss.


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    #688
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    Peter Casey came second in a presidential election and got 343,000 votes , hardly walloped ?
    Despite the Dublin pro traveller media hounding anyone supporting his views on traveller crime or their sense of entitlement despite never doing a days work

    Considering the winner got more votes than Casey and everyone else combined. I would call that a walloping.

    He’s a perennial loser.


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    #689
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Considering the winner got more votes than Casey and everyone else combined. I would call that a walloping.

    He’s a perennial loser.

    Definitely not a fan of the man, but his 23.3% had it been a four seater constituency would have guaranteed him a seat. Second most likely.
    Looked at through that prism, I would be slow to write off Murphy if she runs


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    #690
    LuasSimon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭LuasSimon


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Considering the winner got more votes than Casey and everyone else combined. I would call that a walloping.

    He’s a perennial loser.

    23% of any vote is a serious vote ... even a head in the sand PC brigade muppet like you should get that .


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    #691
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Even if she did not take a seat she could seriously damage the prospect of others

    Which others? Seems likely that, once eliminated, her votes would return to FG, as none of the other serious contenders are remotely 'right wing', ensuring a return to the status quo of 2FF/2FG/1Lab.


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