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All's not well in FG.

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    #692
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I’d ask for a link but I know the answer.

    So much lies and nonsense posted here without any links or evidence needed.

    There is a little truth in what was said even if you disagree.


    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/colette-browne-the-rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-and-middleclass-stagnate-because-the-system-is-designed-that-way-38773780.html


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    #693
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Which others? Seems likely that, once eliminated, her votes would return to FG, as none of the other serious contenders are remotely 'right wing', ensuring a return to the status quo of 2FF/2FG/1Lab.

    Waiting for votes to return can make for a very uncomfortable count.

    Agree that if she runs the bulk of any vote she might get would come from FG, but she could also get enough FF votes plus some of that Wallace 2016 vote to make that last seat a real dog-fight.
    Should she hang in until then, anything coming back could be well diluted by that stage.


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    #694
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    riddles wrote: »
    A decent question to put to Leo would be "does he believe that PR and spin are an adequate substitute for Realpolitik and leadership now we are on the run in to an election?"


    It is not just in the run in to an election.



    That was the plan from day one with his cost neutral Strategic Communications Unit until it was discovered to be anything but cost neutral or politically neutral the little scamp


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    #695
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    You are only in to stir.
    We were talking about Verona Murphy.

    Of all the comments on this page designed purely to stir, and there are a few, this is the most provocative.
    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Supermacs expanding? Nice.


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    #696
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    What an excellent question Charlie, perhaps Jingle all the way will answer this one, last time I think he scarpered when asked a somewhat uncomfortable question regarding siteserv, or maybe he answered it but I didn't see it.

    Siteserv?

    Don’t remember that.

    But as far as I know nothing has been said or found yet?

    Don’t know much about it.


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    #697
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    There is a little truth in what was said even if you disagree.


    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/colette-browne-the-rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-and-middleclass-stagnate-because-the-system-is-designed-that-way-38773780.html

    Who the **** is Collette Brown?

    Once again no credible links or evidence of the claim.

    Google harder.

    But you will get away with it around here.


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    #698
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Of all the comments on this page designed purely to stir, and there are a few, this is the most provocative.


    I thought it good news.


    I prefer Supermacs over McDonalds or Burger King and it is Irish owned as well.


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    #699
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    charlie14 wrote: »
    I thought it good news.


    I prefer Supermacs over McDonalds or Burger King and it is Irish owned as well.

    Try harder.

    We all know Matt’s intentions.

    There was nothing positive about his comment.

    Blinkered.


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    #700
    Plumbthedepths
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Siteserv?

    Don’t remember that.

    But as far as I know nothing has been said or found yet?

    Don’t know much about it.

    It's an investigation into a sweetheart deal between the previous FG government and a very good friend of FG. The expected cost of the investigation is 30 million.


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    #701
    Plumbthedepths
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Who the **** is Collette Brown?

    Once again no credible links or evidence of the claim.

    Google harder.

    But you will get away with it around here.

    If you took the time to read the article it provided links to various findings about the rich/ poor divide in Ireland.


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    #702
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It's an investigation into a sweetheart deal between the previous FG government and a very good friend of FG. The expected cost of the investigation is 30 million.

    Any findings yet?


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    #703
    Plumbthedepths
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    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Any findings yet?

    I used the word expected, that implies it hasn't concluded yet.
    I thought you might like to learn more...

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/qa-the-siteserv-deal-31164708.html


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    #704
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    If you took the time to read the article it provided links to various findings about the rich/ poor divide in Ireland.

    I can’t it’s behind a paywall.

    I can guess. More peddled nonsense about someone getting rich and people not.

    Spare me. That’s life. Work harder if you want more.

    Don’t expect anyone to hand it to you.

    Tiresome basics most people were thought as kids.

    Others were just thought to blame the gubberment.


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    #705
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Try harder.

    We all know Matt’s intentions.

    There was nothing positive about his comment.

    Blinkered.


    As someone who doesn`t know who Collette Brown is, anything about Siteserv, or could be bothered to find anything about either you seem to have your blinkers closed in tight there yourself.


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    #706
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I used the word expected, that implies it hasn't concluded yet.
    I thought you might like to learn more...

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/qa-the-siteserv-deal-31164708.html

    So what’s the point in discussing it now if no findings have been put out??


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    #707
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    I can’t it’s behind a paywall.

    I can guess. More peddled nonsense about someone getting rich and people not.

    Spare me. That’s life. Work harder if you want more.

    Don’t expect anyone to hand it to you.

    Tiresome basics most people were thought as kids.

    Others were just thought to blame the gubberment.

    The Indo doesn't operate a pay wall ,why lie?


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    #708
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    charlie14 wrote: »
    As someone who doesn`t know who Collette Brown is, anything about Siteserv, or could be bothered to find anything about either you seem to have your blinkers closed in tight there yourself.

    Seriously why should I take what Colette Brown says, like who is she??

    Siteserv no one knows anything about yet.

    Why would I talk about those two?

    Seems like some deflection from my original post.


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    #709
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The Indo doesn't operate a pay wall ,why lie?

    Honestly I clicked on the link but could only read the first 2 paragraphs.

    That’s the truth.

    Believe it or not.


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    #710
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    So what’s the point in discussing it now if no findings have been put out??

    You claimed to be ignorant of siteserv, just thought you'd like to educate yourself a little.


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    #711
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    So what’s the point in discussing it now if no findings have been put out??


    Would I be correct in assuming from your posts that unless it is a FG good news story then you really have no interest in any other news or any current affairs ?


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    #712
    Plumbthedepths
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    A blantant example of hypocrisy....


    'Reckless one minute, government policy two hours later': Martin says €1,500 for creches was 'made up on the back of an envelope' https://jrnl.ie/4941558


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    #713
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Seriously why should I take what Colette Brown says, like who is she??

    Siteserv no one knows anything about yet.

    Why would I talk about those two?

    Seems like some deflection from my original post.


    No deflection whatsoever.
    You brought up Siteserv yourself, but I get where you are coming from alright.
    Anything that reflects badly on FG you just do not want to know about.


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    #714
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    charlie14 wrote: »
    No deflection whatsoever.
    You brought up Siteserv yourself, but I get where you are coming from alright.
    Anything that reflects badly on FG you just do not want to know about.

    No I didn’t!!!!!


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    #715
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A blantant example of hypocrisy....


    'Reckless one minute, government policy two hours later': Martin says €1,500 for creches was 'made up on the back of an envelope' https://jrnl.ie/4941558


    Now that you mention it, I`m surprised this hasn`t come up sooner.
    Regardless of how she came up with the figure, is anyone in that cabinet actually talking to each other anymore ?


    I`m no supporter of Varadkar`s but yesterday was just an embarrassment.
    He was on his feet giving thw whole FG no interfering with the markets speel and a few hours later Zappone had found money, presumably down the back of that old couch that Michael Noonan had.


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    #716
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    No I didn’t!!!!!


    You didn`t bring up Siteserv or you have no interest in anything other than FG good news stories :confused:


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    #717
    Colonel Claptrap
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Colonel Claptrap


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A blantant example of hypocrisy....


    'Reckless one minute, government policy two hours later': Martin says €1,500 for creches was 'made up on the back of an envelope' https://jrnl.ie/4941558

    Is it a crisis or isn't it?

    Damned if you do.
    Damned if you don't.

    Meanwhile the outrage merry go round spins and spins.

    Misery junkies, all aboard.

    Oh wait, is this the right thread?
    Does it even matter any more?


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    #718
    McMurphy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The Indo doesn't operate a pay wall ,why lie?

    And new posters aren't prevented from starting new threads about FF.

    Jingle is economical with the truth.


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    #719
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Colonel Claptrap wrote: »
    Is it a crisis or isn't it?

    Damned if you do.
    Damned if you don't.

    Meanwhile the outrage merry go round spins and spins.

    Misery junkies, all aboard.

    Oh wait, is this the right thread?
    Does it even matter any more?

    The hypocrisy is slating a member of the opposition when they called for intervention claiming it was reckless, then a mere few hours later doing exactly what was called for from said opposition member. Maybe an impending election and many potentially pissed off working parents concentrated the minds of Leo and co.


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    #720
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    Colonel Claptrap wrote: »
    Is it a crisis or isn't it?

    Damned if you do.
    Damned if you don't.

    Meanwhile the outrage merry go round spins and spins.

    Misery junkies, all aboard.

    Oh wait, is this the right thread?
    Does it even matter any more?

    Where is Pintmanpaddy gone? At least he'd give you a laugh in between all the guff.


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    #721
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    charlie14 wrote: »
    Definitely not a fan of the man, but his 23.3% had it been a four seater constituency would have guaranteed him a seat. Second most likely.
    Looked at through that prism, I would be slow to write off Murphy if she runs

    I think Verona if she runs will go very well. No sitting td in New Ross area and Paul Kehoe will be under pressure this time.


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