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Jessica Yaniv refused service at gynaecologist's office
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Debbie Hayton is a trans person and well worth listening to:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/trans-activists-are-making-life-harder-for-trans-people/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
https://twitter.com/DebbieHayton
I could probably get why you say they’re worth listening to - because they’re not the same shouty, in your face, “I know my rights” types as a lot of the more prominent “personalities” on social media and in politics are. At the same time they’re not saying anything different to what Yanniv and anyone else who identifies themselves as transgender is essentially saying - that they are their preferred gender and wish to be identified and treated as such.
Throughout the article in the Spectator, and in their article in physics world*, they refer to themselves as female and as a woman. That runs in direct contradiction to the basis of people’s objections throughout this thread - that no matter how one identifies themselves, they are neither female, nor women, or as the person in that article suggests - people who identify themselves as non-binary, aren’t. I suppose in that sense at least their opinions aren’t any different from a lot of people here who object to the idea of people being recognised in law as their preferred gender, the sole purpose of which is to be protected from discrimination on the basis of their gender.
*I could have picked their opinions apart in that Spectator article as I disagree with much of what they have written, but the most glaring contradiction in what they’ve written, apart from trying to convince anyone that they should be perceived as their preferred gender, was this -
The new generation of LGBTQ+ activists may claim that the rush for transgender and non-binary rights mirrors the gay rights activism of 30 years ago, but those campaigners only ever fought for equal rights. They never campaigned for the right to change how other people think.
Which is contrary to the headline of the article in physics world -
Gender balance, one woman at a time
In which they use the language of the modern social justice advocacy movement in the same way Yanniv has done, to claim this -
What can be done to increase the number of women in physics? This question keeps committees busy and researchers funded, but the solution seems as elusive as squaring the circle. Four years ago, however, I did my bit: I transitioned from male to female. As this also meant that the number of men in physics was simultaneously reduced by one, it was, as they say in football, a “six-pointer”.
I hasten to add that I didn’t transition in order to improve the male-female ratio among physicists; that really would have been a remarkable thing to do. However, it did mean that when my wave function collapsed into the F state, I was able to conduct some controlled social observations in my work as a teacher. I’m the same person and I’m doing the same job, but in a different gender role. After a degree, PhD and postdoctoral research I trained as a teacher in the mid-1990s. I’ve been teaching physics in secondary schools ever since, and the women-in-physics question has long played into my department’s desire to increase the uptake of students taking A-level physics. We have been very successful in attracting boys but, whatever we try, the gender ratio has never strayed much from 4:1; if only the girls would sign up in equal numbers we really would be able to justify those glistening new laboratories that currently we can only dream about.
Slow clap for their attempts to address the gender imbalance in STEM :pac:
But yeah, I do take your point that they’re a bit easier on the ears than this particular head melt -
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Ironicname wrote: »Grand so.
So someone who identifies as a woman (his gender) should be treated like his sex.
So regardless of what gender you decide to be, you should not be allowed into spaces that are for the opposite sex from which you are.
That's a pretty good summary of what I've already argued in my previous posts on this thread, well done on catching up.
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Isn't it sad when we actually are not 100% sure that what was said wasn't a joke?0 -
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