Jessica Yaniv refused service at gynaecologist's office

Omackeral

Rodin wrote: »

And 'they' will always be plural to me.
No single person should ever be referred to as 'they'.

Yes they can be. See. Makes sense.

Calhoun

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

however controversially, she seems to bringing trans-rights to the fore...

She does indeed but for all the wrong reasons, the last outing was targeting vulnerable woman, or around the same time the topless pool parties for teens without parental supervision.

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/2019/07/25/jessica-yaniv-langley-topless-swim-trans-activist-bc/

It must be fairly horrible being part of that community and you now find that allot of the media talks about this one person who not only shines a big spotlight but a negative one at that.

Gynoid

eviltwin wrote: »

I have a lot of time and respect for the trans community but I think she's taking the piss. Maybe she has a legitimate complaint this time but I don't care anymore. There has been too much utter crap from her it's impossible to take her seriously any more. Even trans people I know think she's a waste of space doing the community more harm than good.

Yaniv does not represent ordinary transgender people who due to gender dysphoria wish to live their lives as the opposite gender from their birth sex. I have watched and read material from many reasonable, kind and well intentioned transgender people, and they just want to live their lives quietly and with the dignity and respect to which everyone is entitled.

If the trans people you know, your friends, support the following however, in my opinion they are not entitled to their beliefs or political activities being respected.

If they do not recognise that there is an unusually inflated cohort of very neurotic and vicious public figures within the trans community who threaten women and bring the trans cause into disrepute, and if they do not challenge and disavow these figureheads, then others have the right to robustly do so.

If they support the erasure of language pertaining to the female sex, such as woman or mother, and think that women can be refered to in official, health promotion or advertising literature as pregnant people, cervix havers, chest feeders or menstruators, for example, then they are wrong and can be challenged robustly.

If they support they erasure of single sex spaces such as in rape shelters, womens refuges, public toilets, same sex hospital wards, single sex sports then their opinions are not entitled to be respected and may in good conscience be robustly challenged. Reasonable trans people are advocating now for third spaces that respect the hard won sex based rights of women and they have my full support and appreciation.

If your trans friends support education in schools that promotes the false ideology of gender theory including telling children they may have been born in the wrong body or popularising idiotic phrases like "assigned male or female at birth" etc then their opinions are not entitled to respect and they may be robustly challenged.

If your friends in the trans community support the chemical sterilisation of gender questioning and often otherwise vulnerable children via pubertal blockers which arrest their brain development, lower IQ, cause bone density and cardio vascular problems, stunt their reproductive organs, render them impotent, then their opinions are entitled to be robustly challenged. Any trans person who cheers on radical surgery on a teenagers body can be challenged for the extremity, cruelty and unreasonableness of their political belief.

Trans people who are good and reasonable are not represented by the hideous Yaniv, but it is also late in the day for good trans people and their allies to start to disavow radical trans ideology and the horrific damage it does to vulnerable people and the subversion of reason it demands via political coercion of society.

But better late than never.

suicide_circus

this person does the trans community harm in so far as they highlight the problems which can manifest themselves downstream of the politeness and kindness most people are happy to employ towards trans people. being respectful and using preferred pronouns...does that mean that the person actually is their preferred gender? a woman just like any other womb-haver? entitled to all the rights and access that people with xx chromosomes enjoy?

splinter65

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

however controversially, she seems to bringing trans-rights to the fore...

He.

Phoebas

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So if my doctor didn't believe any form of cancer could be treated they could refuse to treat a cancer patient? Because of their personal beliefs. That seems like a shady area to be going down, and defending, in medical practice.

There isn't a doctor on the planet who thinks cancers can't be treated, but if you found one, why the hell would you go to that doctor to treat your cancer?
You certainly wouldn't go there for medical treatment - likely a similar motivation exists in this case.

Phoebas

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

however controversially, she seems to bringing trans-rights to the fore...

She is - but in a way that damages trans rights.

Yurt2

The absolute state of that creature. I feel bad for people transitioning that just want to live a quiet life of acceptance in their wider communities with absolute creepers like this yoke taking up up the airwaves.

I only was kind of following the Graham Linehan shenanigans, but I'd imagine this is the kind of thing he was warning about. This person is a danger to society no matter what gender he presents as. He just happens to be using the fig leaf of the LGBT movement to get away with f*cked up behaviour.

Some people will be happy to let him away with it though.

biko

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I feel she may have a point.

Pray tell.
Or if already answered, can you point out the post?

Hector Savage

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

What was gynaecologist suppose to do? Stick a finger up his ass, maybe that's what he wanted.

Exactly, so lets say the gynaecologbologist agrees to see him .... THEN WHAT ??

Genuine question ...

TheValeyard

Balldermort strikes again!

nkl12xtw5goz70

Canadian women have to wait around 6 months for an appointment to see a gynecologist — and then there's this idiot trying to get an appointment that [pronoun of choice] demonstrably does not need.

I'd suggest that the ultra-woke who are supporting the right of biological males to waste gynecologists' time at the expense of actual women's health should themselves go and make appointments to see a mental health professional.

minikin

I’m surprised at them, they normally have no issue working with female genitalia (insert your own alternative rude word, if you wish).
This human seems to be a total one.

Hector Savage

Blaire High Pacemaker wrote: »

Canadian women have to wait around 6 months for an appointment to see a gynecologist — and then there's this idiot trying to get an appointment that [pronoun of choice] demonstrably does not need.

I'd suggest that the ultra-woke who are supporting the right of biological males to waste gynecologists' time at the expense of actual women's health should themselves go and make appointments to see a mental health professional.

^^ Spot on .... x 1000.

Plumbthedepths

I think a gynecologist should perform a full internal exam of 'her' using the same equipment that would be used on any other woman. The absence of a vagina may have to be substituted by the anus but hey ho.

SusieBlue

I only heard of this person this morning, after doing a bit of twitter research I have to say I'm flabbergasted at the obsession they seem to have with periods, tampons, and pantyliners.
Yaniv complains of needing to use female bathrooms as they are too embarrassed to change their pad in front of men...Why on earth do they require the use of pads if they still have male genetalia? Why can't they just use a cubicle in the gents bathroom if they need privacy? Its not like they can develop toxic shock syndrome from not changing often enough ffs.
The way they speak about it is almost like a fetish, its beyond creepy.

seamus

Yaniv is the poster child for the transphobes because she represents the most ridiculous extremes that they fear about trans people.

They point to a single inhinged individual taking vexatious legal cases on the other side of the planet as evidence that transgender people are systematically destroying society. Which is clearly an irrational leap to make.

Lunatics are taking vexatious and irrational legal cases every day of the week, but they don't make the news and nobody is declaring them to be spokespeople or representatives of a movement.

Ignore Yaniv and she'll go away. She's insignificant and is not a representative of anything.

Plumbthedepths

seamus wrote: »

Yaniv is the poster child for the transphobes because she represents the most ridiculous extremes that they fear about trans people.

They point to a single inhinged individual taking vexatious legal cases on the other side of the planet as evidence that transgender people are systematically destroying society. Which is clearly an irrational leap to make.

Ignore Yaniv and she'll go away. She's insignificant and is not a representative of anything.

*He.

drunkmonkey

seamus wrote: »

Yaniv is the poster child for the transphobes because she represents the most ridiculous extremes that they fear about trans people.

Yaniv is looking for equal rights, that's Holy Grail for the trans movement. Calling people transphobes for not agreeing with that ideal is doing a disservice to a lot of people and putting trans rights above everyone else's.

randd1

SusieBlue wrote: »

I only heard of this person this morning, after doing a bit of twitter research I have to say I'm flabbergasted at the obsession they seem to have with periods, tampons, and pantyliners.
Yaniv complains of needing to use female bathrooms as they are too embarrassed to change their pad in front of men...Why on earth do they require the use of pads if they still have male genetalia? Why can't they just use a cubicle in the gents bathroom if they need privacy? Its not like they can develop toxic shock syndrome from not changing often enough ffs.
The way they speak about it is almost like a fetish, its beyond creepy.

I think you may be on to something there.

seamus

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yaniv is looking for equal rights, that's Holy Grail for the trans movement. Calling people transphobes for not agreeing with that ideal is doing a disservice to a lot of people and putting trans rights above everyone else's.

Well if you don't think trans people should have equal rights, then you're a transphobe. There's not really any other way to spin that.

But whatever Yaniv is at, she's not on a crusade for equal rights, she's off on her own little personal crusade.

Plumbthedepths

SusieBlue wrote: »

I only heard of this person this morning, after doing a bit of twitter research I have to say I'm flabbergasted at the obsession they seem to have with periods, tampons, and pantyliners.
Yaniv complains of needing to use female bathrooms as they are too embarrassed to change their pad in front of men...Why on earth do they require the use of pads if they still have male genetalia? Why can't they just use a cubicle in the gents bathroom if they need privacy? Its not like they can develop toxic shock syndrome from not changing often enough ffs.
The way they speak about it is almost like a fetish, its beyond creepy.

You should for no other reason other than curiosity learn a little more about this creature, his behaviour goes beyond fetish . He wanted to organise a swim for over 12's (topless if they wanted) with parents/guardian barred to allow a safe environment. It would be a natural assumption to presume he is a paedophile using the trans community to further his desires.

Patrick2010

seamus wrote: »

Well if you don't think trans people should have equal rights, then you're a transphobe. There's not really any other way to spin that.

But whatever Yaniv is at, she's not on a crusade for equal rights, she's off on her own little personal crusade.

He’s a full male who pretends to be trans with imaginary periods so he can discuss them with young girls. Why are people pandering to this weirdo by referring to him as She??

Dante7

seamus wrote: »

Yaniv is the poster child for the transphobes because she represents the most ridiculous extremes that they fear about trans people.

They point to a single inhinged individual taking vexatious legal cases on the other side of the planet as evidence that transgender people are systematically destroying society. Which is clearly an irrational leap to make.

Lunatics are taking vexatious and irrational legal cases every day of the week, but they don't make the news and nobody is declaring them to be spokespeople or representatives of a movement.

Ignore Yaniv and she'll go away. She's insignificant and is not a representative of anything.

No, Yaniv is the natural conclusion to self-id that gender critical feminists have been warning about. He is an abusive, predatory male who is exploiting the many loopholes created by the crazy belief that trans women are literally women. There are plenty of other men exploiting it, and there will be more.

Cordell

A man demanding his right to be seen by a gynecologist is not looking for equal rights, he's looking for privileges.

Plumbthedepths

seamus wrote: »

Well if you don't think trans people should have equal rights, then you're a transphobe. There's not really any other way to spin that.

But whatever Yaniv is at, she's not on a crusade for equal rights, she's off on her own little personal crusade.

To date his personal crusade seems to be nothing more than to get women to handle/shave his genitals and to help young girls cope with their periods. If a male who willingly identifies as a male behaved in the same manner would you be as quick to make excuses for him?

banie01

Acting like a Cúnt, does not equate to actually having one.
It does mean that Yaniv is entitled to demand treatment from a medical professional specialising in that organ and the associated female anatomy.

Yaniv is the very worst example of someone fighting for "equal" rights, they are a bully, a fetishist and quite likely given some of their previous "campaigns" a peadophile.

Is this the altar that many in the LGBT community who are genuinely oppressed and attacked want to build a fight for their rights on?
Yaniv gives "phobes" of any leaning, all the ammunition they need to conflate the worst smears of peadophilia and "deviancy"....

There surely needs to be a deep breath and a pick your battle choice made here?
Yaniv is a disgusting individual with a history of some quite abhorrent behaviour...
Don't let them become the poster child for the rights that the LGBT community feel still need winning...

It will be totally counter productive

seamus

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

To date his personal crusade seems to be nothing more than to get women to handle/shave his genitals and to help young girls cope with their periods. If a male who willingly identifies as a male behaved in the same manner would you be as quick to make excuses for him?

I'm not making any excuses for anyone. Yaniv is a weirdo.

Stop giving her oxygen. Stop pretending that she's representative of anything. As you say, there's ample evidence that this individual might be using the trans community as a cover for more nefarious activities. So everyone should be on the side of the trans community and just ignoring her desperate nonsense. The more coverage you give her, the more nonsense she's going to do.

This is like putting Gemma O'Doherty up as the face of conservative politics. Like O'Doherty, Yaniv is a worringly unhinged individual whose only goal is narcissistic self-promotion, and thrives on any publicity. She has zero ethical or moral consideration for the impact of her actions.

Why do I say "she" instead of "he"? Because it makes no odds to me what someone wants to be referred to as. Making a point of using something else is just petty for the sake of it.

Phoebas

splinter65 wrote: »

He.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

She.

splinter65 wrote: »

He.

Still waters wrote: »

He/him

splinter65 wrote: »

He not she, him not her.

Hego Damask wrote: »

Nope ... HE!!!

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

*She

splinter65 wrote: »

He.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

*He.

Is there anything to be said for allowing people to choose their own pronouns without this childish back and forth?

Plumbthedepths

seamus wrote: »

I'm not making any excuses for anyone. Yaniv is a weirdo.

Stop giving her oxygen. Stop pretending that she's representative of anything. As you say, there's ample evidence that this individual might be using the trans community as a cover for more nefarious activities. So everyone should be on the side of the trans community and just ignoring her desperate nonsense.

Why do I say "she" instead of "he"? Because it makes no odds to me what someone wants to be referred to as. Making a point of using something else is just petty for the sake of it.

No pettiness here at all, if you have a penis I refer to you as 'he' if you have a vagina I refer to you as 'she'. You can identify as a dolphin for all the difference it makes to me but I won't refer to you as 'fungi'. Yaniv has a penis so as far as I'm concerned it's a he.