Interesting Maps

Barna77

Shedite27 wrote: »

Surely no beating Baarle-Hertog

It's a bizarre place, with the border running through houses and businesses, which may help on your taxes, depending on which side of the border you are.

Other weird exclaves on the Belgium / Germany border. Chunks of German land separated by a narrow strip, the width of a road or a railway

yagan

Barna77 wrote: »

It's a bizarre place, with the border running through houses and businesses, which may help on your taxes, depending on which side of the border you are.

Other weird exclaves on the Belgium / Germany border. Chunks of German land separated by a narrow strip, the width of a road or a railway

i wonder if the DUP have looked into it?

magicbastarder

Bir Tawil; no man's land in that no country lays claim to it.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bir+Tawil/@21.9117708,33.5780095,96691m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x143279df2a49fd6f:0x594c095d12e84b14!8m2!3d21.886527!4d33.6779879

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/03/welcome-to-the-land-that-no-country-wants-bir-tawil

forgottenhills

magicbastarder wrote: »

Bir Tawil; no man's land in that no country lays claim to it.

A bit like Kiltyclogher then (just kidding).

I always consider Kaliningrad as a potentially dangerous enclave. I hope that Putin never gets the idea into his head to try to unite Kaliningrad to the rest of Russia via a corridor through Lithuania.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Kaliningrad+Oblast,+Russia/@54.7856171,12.2976399,5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x46e39c45442e0be3:0x1e2558c4d03a027b!8m2!3d54.8235292!4d21.4816162

josip

forgottenhills wrote: »

A bit like Kiltyclogher then (just kidding).

I always consider Kaliningrad as a potentially dangerous enclave. I hope that Putin never gets the idea into his head to try to unite Kaliningrad to the rest of Russia via a corridor through Lithuania.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Kaliningrad+Oblast,+Russia/@54.7856171,12.2976399,5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x46e39c45442e0be3:0x1e2558c4d03a027b!8m2!3d54.8235292!4d21.4816162

You can rest easy, the Baltics have all been in Nato since 2004 so there won't be any corridor attempts.

Only those parts neighbouring Russia would have a majority of ethnic Russians.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons

forgottenhills

josip wrote: »

You can rest easy, the Baltics have all been in Nato since 2004 so there won't be any corridor attempts.

Only those parts neighbouring Russia would have a majority of ethnic Russians.

All very well and good but Belarus is volatile and is a member of the Russian equivalent of NATO. If Belarus ever (re)unites with Russia (actually suggested at one point by its own autocratic leader) then all Putin needs is a short corridor through Lithuania. I know that such an event is very unlikely but we've seen this **** happen before, particularly if there was some sort of prolonged distraction in nearby Ukraine destabilising the region, so its vital that NATO maintains a strong presence in the area.

nc6000

Flying Abruptly wrote: »

While in the south of France a while back, I drove through a village where all the signs suddenly changed into Spanish and then back to French.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/17527+Ll%C3%ADvia,+Girona,+Spain/@42.5055915,1.8235005,10.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x12a57cafb4ec1b39:0x85f4e91c4ba55324!8m2!3d42.4633596!4d1.9802856

Looking into it afterwards, it has remained Spanish because in a treaty in the 1600's, villages were ceded to France but Llivia was considered a town and not a village at the time.

That's a good one, I've been on holidays in Font Romeu and must have driven through there on way to Barcelona.

In keeping with the last few posts, although around the Pyrenees is the South of France when people say South of France they are referring to the area on the Mediterranean coast.

Mullinabreena

Locations of Crannogs in Ireland.

greenbicycle

Mullinabreena wrote: »

Locations of Crannogs in Ireland.

Fantastic map to see the distirbution, settlement pattern is evidence of people having arrived over the land bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland. Sea levels were much lower.

Fake Scores

greenbicycle wrote: »

Fantastic map to see the distirbution, settlement pattern is evidence of people having arrived over the land bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland. Sea levels were much lower.

Most of the crannogs were built tens of thousands of years after any purported land bridge to Scotland. There would be no connection between the two.

Mullinabreena

Neolithic Ireland landscape with location of the four most common tombs


Court tombs


Portal tombs



Wedge tombs


Passage tombs


Some of the carins in Sligo predate Newgrange. I've read that some of the first neolithic farmer settlers arrived in Ireland on the west coast via Spain, Portugal, and south west France

Capt'n Midnight

greenbicycle wrote: »

Fantastic map to see the distirbution, settlement pattern is evidence of people having arrived over the land bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland. Sea levels were much lower.

or it could be the related to the location of small lakes



Summary map of glacial bedforms for Ireland, incorporating drumlins and ribbed (rogen) moraine including extensive ribbed moraine fields

greenbicycle

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

or it could be the related to the location of small lakes



Summary map of glacial bedforms for Ireland, incorporating drumlins and ribbed (rogen) moraine including extensive ribbed moraine fields

Yes the drumlin belt would have provided a lot of good topography for the crannogs for sure!

cnocbui

I have a crannog.



I also discovered one that I presume isn't on the archaeological survey as it's not marked on the relevant OS map.

KevRossi

Arkansas is surrounded by 6 states. You can drive due south from Arkansas into any of them.
Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee are obvious.

You can drive south into Missouri from Piggot in the 'nook' in the top right.

You can drive south into Oklahoma from towns west of Fayetteville or Bentonville in the top right of the map as the border with Oklahoma bends into Arkansas.

Professor Moriarty

cnocbui wrote: »

I have a crannog.



I also discovered one that I presume isn't on the archaeological survey as it's not marked on the relevant OS map.

You should take that to the Archaeology forum.

KevRossi

From the town of Greenwich or Stamford in Connecticut, if you travel north, south, east or west, the first state you get to is New York.

They are in the very SW corner of the map, in the little dog-leg that goes in NY state.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Scranton,+NY+14075,+USA/@40.9129045,-73.9563843,9.01z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89d304d46e6bbf6f:0x3f441054e2e1101f!8m2!3d42.740556!4d-78.834444

BonnieSituation

Reminds me of one of my favourite quiz questions when I was younger:

What's the first country you hit of you travel due south from Detroit?

Yurt2

Railway map of the Japanese Empire in 1927 (Japanese home islands + Taiwan, Korea and Southern Sakhalin).

Capt'n Midnight

Pherekydes

Nicht verstehen.

cnocbui

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Bulldust!

mikhail

Pherekydes wrote: »

Nicht verstehen.

"A continent is growing together"
Swearwords from various languages. I guess it's the very tongue-in-cheek end of euro-scepticism.

Oh, and near as I can make it out, the Greek one transliterates as skata, so I guess it's a cognate with "scat".

Finnish one means sh1t, so does merde AFAIK

Gaoth Laidir

I find that Italians will almost always use "Cazzo!" or "Cacchio" instead. I've never actually heard one use "merda".

Mullinabreena

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I find that Italians will almost always use "Cazzo!" or "Cacchio" instead. I've never actually heard one use "merda".

It depends where in the country the Italian is from because of the different dialects. Someone from Napoli may struggle to understand someone from Genoa. So naturally different insults. You'll see at football matches the ultras on the curvas will have banners or scarves with Roma merda etc but the most common insult chant on the curva would be Roma Roma vaffanculo!!! Which means Roma Roma f**k off.

Professor Moriarty

Interesting that the Romanian word for sh1t is 'cacat'. Obviously derived from cac which is sh1t as Gaeilge.

KevRossi

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Interesting that the Romanian word for sh1t is 'cacat'. Obviously derived from cac which is sh1t as Gaeilge.

German's use 'kacke' for shlt, as well as scheisse.

Scheisse is more a swear word these days and kacke more used for 'having a crap', but they are interchangeable.

French use 'caca' as we would use 'poo' (or 'poop' of you're from D4).

silliussoddius

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Interesting that the Romanian word for sh1t is 'cacat'. Obviously derived from cac which is sh1t as Gaeilge.

The Latin word is caco, probably the origin of the Celtic and Romance words share a similar latrine.
https://www.wordsense.eu/cac/

Professor Moriarty

KevRossi wrote: »

German's use 'kacke' for ****, as well as scheisse.

Scheisse is more a swear word these days and kacke more used for 'having a ****', but they are interchangeable.

French use 'caca' as we would use 'poo' (or 'poop' of you're from D4).

Amazing how influential and widespread Gaeilge became over the millennia.

Fake Scores

Some linguists would link those toa proto-indoeuropean root word kaka/kakka - to defecate. Celtic and romance language branches.

Professor Moriarty

silliussoddius wrote: »

The Latin word is caco, probably the origin of the Celtic and Romance words share a similar latrine.
https://www.wordsense.eu/cac/

Apparently cac comes from Old Irish - caccaid which means 'excretes'.

magicbastarder

not a map, but an interesting infographic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/what-the-world-eats/

Pherekydes

mikhail wrote: »

"A continent is growing together"
Swearwords from various languages. I guess it's the very tongue-in-cheek end of euro-scepticism.

Oh, and near as I can make it out, the Greek one transliterates as skata, so I guess it's a cognate with "scat".

I guessed they were mostly words for sh1t, except the English language ones. I mean, who uses feck?

Professor Moriarty

Pherekydes wrote: »

I guessed they were mostly words for sh1t, except the English language ones. I mean, who uses feck?

Father Jack.

Gaoth Laidir

Mullinabreena wrote: »

It depends where in the country the Italian is from because of the different dialects. Someone from Napoli may struggle to understand someone from Genoa. So naturally different insults. You'll see at football matches the ultras on the curvas will have banners or scarves with Roma merda etc but the most common insult chant on the curva would be Roma Roma vaffanculo!!! Which means Roma Roma f**k off.

What I'm talking about is in cases where we"d use "****! or "FFS!" as an expletive, the way Father Jack would use "Feck!". Yes, merda is of course used, but not so much in that scenario.

Vaffanculo is used to tell someone to f off, not really as an expletive.

josip

I thought Poutain was more common in France ?

Flying Abruptly

Putain is considered stronger than merde, combining them is putain de merde, which is saved for the worst case scenarios

The kid friendly versions of these you often hear are puree (=mashed potatoes) or mercedi (=wedensday).

magicbastarder

i suspect there are a few ifs, buts and maybes here:

https://twitter.com/TheBigDataStats/status/1388975303691628547

Charles Babbage

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

It also runs pretty much straight down the middle of this 7 a side pitch, which brings a whole new meaning to the term "intercounty match".

About two thirds of Pairc Esler, the Down GAA HQ, is in county Armagh. This arose because the river was straightened and some land reclaimed in the 18th century and the stadium is built on this reclaimed land.

ohnonotgmail

magicbastarder wrote: »

i suspect there are a few ifs, buts and maybes here:

https://twitter.com/TheBigDataStats/status/1388975303691628547

all that map shows is that the french are massive liars.

Charles Babbage

Territory held by Germany at end of the war when they surrendered in 1945.

ohnonotgmail

In what way was Finland "held" by Germany?

blackwhite

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

In what way was Finland "held" by Germany?

I'm guessing the map is showing all areas that were at one time or another Axis-controlled during WW2. Finland allied with Germany to fight the Soviets until 1944.

Southern Italy & Sicily are portrayed in similar manner, despite never having been held by the Germans.

magicbastarder

magicbastarder wrote: »

i suspect there are a few ifs, buts and maybes here:

https://twitter.com/TheBigDataStats/status/1388975303691628547

The Greeks living off past glories. Plato, Socrates etc... Almost as bad as us claiming credit for Fionn Mac Cumhaill building the Giant's causeway. Almost.

Skylinehead

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

In what way was Finland "held" by Germany?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War

Fair number of them up there, even after Finland removed their support.

ohnonotgmail

Skylinehead wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War

Fair number of them up there, even after Finland removed their support.

the map legend says "Besetzte" which means occupied. In no way did germany occupy Finland.

Skylinehead

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the map legend says "Besetzte" which means occupied. In no way did germany occupy Finland.

They were in Northern Finland. Finland declared war on Germany. Those 200,000 troops had to be somewhere in Finland, ergo they were occupying it.

In any case the map just seems to be "Axis-controlled" areas at some point, as the Germans never controlled Southern Italy for example.

Sky King

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Reminds me of one of my favourite quiz questions when I was younger:

What's the first country you hit of you travel due south from Detroit?

Yes, or if you're going from the Atlantic to the Pacific through the Panama canal, are you travelling east to west or west to east?

It's counter-intuitively west to east.

ohnonotgmail

Skylinehead wrote: »

They were in Northern Finland. Finland declared war on Germany. Those 200,000 troops had to be somewhere in Finland, ergo they were occupying it.

In any case the map just seems to be "Axis-controlled" areas at some point, as the Germans never controlled Southern Italy for example.

I'm aware of the history thanks. There is no way that the german troops in finland could be said to be occupying the country. would you say that the 1.6m US troops in Britain duriing WW2 were occupying the country?