Interesting Maps

Brian?

JupiterKid wrote: »

I see that the most popular dog breed here in Ireland is the Golden Retreiver. Wonderful dog - as a family growing up we had one for 14 years. She had two litters of pups and was such a good, gentle dog.

I also see the most popular breed in Gibraltar is the Rottweiler. Seige mentality of the die-hard subjects of Blighty?

Actually, looking at those maps again I see the Rottweiler is very popular in a depressingly large number of countries. Tells you a lot about the mentality of the people there IMO. As for the countries that favour the extremely dangerous Cane Corso - best avoided in my future travel plans.

The Rottweiler is a great dog breed. Loyal, intelligent and great with people. Nothing dangerous about them.

JupiterKid

JupiterKid wrote: »

I see that the most popular dog breed here in Ireland is the Golden Retreiver. Wonderful dog - as a family growing up we had one for 14 years. She had two litters of pups and was such a good, gentle dog.

I also see the most popular breed in Gibraltar is the Rottweiler. Seige mentality of the die-hard subjects of Blighty?

Actually, looking at those maps again I see the Rottweiler is very popular in a depressingly large number of countries. Tells you a lot about the mentality of the people there IMO. As for the countries that favour the extremely dangerous Cane Corso - best avoided in my future travel plans.

They seem to be most popular in the Balkan region, I lived there and can honestly say I didn't see any!
Maybe they are security dogs behind high gates, because they are not pets!
Also, the Balkan region has massive problems with stray/wild dogs, packs of dogs everywhere and I don't remember ever seeing those breeds stray either.

Just security dogs imo

Suckler

Brian? wrote: »

The Rottweiler is a great dog breed. Loyal, intelligent and great with people. Nothing dangerous about them.

A bit simplistic, largely dependent on training (as with majority of breeds). They are great with people they recognise from experience.

Brian?

Suckler wrote: »

A bit simplistic, largely dependent on training (as with majority of breeds). They are great with people they recognise from experience.

It's very simplistic, purposely so. Every dog's behaviour is largely dependent on training, which is why I didn't say it. There's a weird stigma about Rottweilers because they're big and mean looking. They aren't a dangerous breed.

Brian?

Brian? wrote: »

They aren't a dangerous breed.

As apposed to chiwawas - How many reports have you read about someone being savaged to death by chiwawas?

magicbastarder

i think i remember reading that going on american data, the most troublesome dog is the dalmatian. something to do with melatonin which is what makes them part albino, and is also used as a signalling chemical in the brain; it makes them bad tempered.
couple that with their popularity with kids because of '101 dalmatians' and they're the cause (per dog capita) of more bites than any other breed.

josip

The further east you go, the fewer dog 'pets' there are and dogs either earn their keep eg. Guard Dogs, or they take to the streets.
Definitely agree with bubbly that the Mongrel is the most common 'breed' by far in the Balkans

josip

josip wrote: »

The further east you go, the fewer dog 'pets' there are and dogs either earn their keep eg. Guard Dogs, or they take to the streets.
Definitely agree with bubbly that the Mongrel is the most common 'breed' by far in the Balkans

Go even further east and you'll find them on menus :eek:

magicbastarder

Brian? wrote: »

It's very simplistic, purposely so. Every dog's behaviour is largely dependent on training, which is why I didn't say it. There's a weird stigma about Rottweilers because they're big and mean looking. They aren't a dangerous breed.

the biggest danger of rottweilers seems to be to your wallet. they're so inbred by now that they seem to suffer from all sorts of expensive ailments (going by the experience of my parents in law).
their last one had thyroid problems, uterine problems, constant ear infections, and dog acne. and they were just the ongoing daily things which had to be managed. she was on three different courses of medication for several years IIRC.

1huge1

JupiterKid wrote: »

Actually, looking at those maps again I see the Rottweiler is very popular in a depressingly large number of countries. Tells you a lot about the mentality of the people there IMO. As for the countries that favour the extremely dangerous Cane Corso - best avoided in my future travel plans.

I took away the same thing from looking at that, shocking the breed of dogs that are most popular the further towards eastern Europe you go.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Go even further east and you'll find them on menus :eek:

Saw them on spits in Vietnam....just couldn't ever bring myself to try a bit, and I eat everything!!!

breezy1985

1huge1 wrote: »

I took away the same thing from looking at that, shocking the breed of dogs that are most popular the further east you go.

I find the whole map shocking. The things we have done to dogs especially in regards to breeding must be one of the weirdest aspects of human society

breezy1985

breezy1985 wrote: »

I find the whole map shocking. The things we have done to dogs especially in regards to breeding must be one of the weirdest aspects of human society

Pugs another example, they can't even breath properly if they do much exercise. An awful mess.

My sister owned one and had to be put down, was less than 5 years old. And as above, she paid a small fortune in vet fees and was devastated when she died.

KevRossi

JupiterKid wrote: »

I see that the most popular dog breed here in Ireland is the Golden Retreiver. Wonderful dog - as a family growing up we had one for 14 years. She had two litters of pups and was such a good, gentle dog.

I also see the most popular breed in Gibraltar is the Rottweiler. Seige mentality of the die-hard subjects of Blighty?

Actually, looking at those maps again I see the Rottweiler is very popular in a depressingly large number of countries. Tells you a lot about the mentality of the people there IMO. As for the countries that favour the extremely dangerous Cane Corso - best avoided in my future travel plans.

Rottweilers are work dogs. Excellent dogs for cattle, sheep and goats. Also handy for guarding them at night against predators such as foxes and wolves. I've seen them used a lot for this in some countries, they are highly valued for that and for being excellent family pets.

They have a load bark and can snarl to ward off people or other animals. Due to the amount of work they traditionally do they tend to be fit and broad shouldered. I think that's why they are feared/respected.

Of course, they sadly became popular with the dickhead set in the 70's, 80's and 90's and got a wrongly deserved reputation. They also became badly inbred and are now often sought out when mixed with Pointers.

I knew a few people in Germany and Austria when I lived there who had them, and I'd take one at the drop of a hat if I had the time for one.

SEPT 23 1989

Labradors are the most dangerous dog

magicbastarder

when i first started going out with my now wife, my father in law was looking into the possibility of getting a boerboel - so i looked it up. traditional south african farm dog, bleedin' enormous, 'does not take kindly to strangers'.

i did wonder whether i was being sent a message.

murpho999

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Labradors are the most dangerous dog

Not at all.

I've never met one type of dog that's constantly dangerous.

I fine it all depends on their owner for training, health, mentality and socialisation with people.

In general I've always found bigger dogs to be more relaxed and friendly.

Gloomtastic!

murpho999 wrote: »

Not at all.

I've never met one type of dog that's constantly dangerous.

I fine it all depends on their owner for training, health, mentality and socialisation with people.

In general I've always found bigger dogs to be more relaxed and friendly.

I believe Labradors are behind the most attacks on people simply because they are one of the most popular dogs. You take a dog’s food from them, they may bite, regardless of breed.

Hurrache

Brian? wrote: »

Cockapoo/Cavapoo/Labradoodle etc aren’t dog breeds yet. They’re cross breeds.

Mongrels, they're mongrels. Well back in my day anyway any dog that wasn't a thoroughbred were simply mongrels. None of that fancy stuff of making up names to match who the parents were.

josip

Hurrache wrote: »

Mongrels, they're mongrels. Well back in my day anyway any dog that wasn't a thoroughbred were simply mongrels. None of that fancy stuff of making up names to match who the parents were.

Where I grew up, the mongrels were pure bred mongrels and could trace their pedigree back through generations of mongrels before them.
A dog that had any kind of breed detectable in them, usually belonged to someone who had 'notions'.

The Egyptian Empire at its height.

cameramonkey

Mongol empire at its height. Pretty Impressive spread and all done on horseback.

mikhail

cameramonkey wrote: »

Mongol empire at its height. Pretty Impressive spread and all done on horseback.

I recommend a book "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World", by Jack Weatherford. It's a very readable history from Genghis' childhood to the point where the empire starts to break up among the grandkids.

retalivity

mikhail wrote: »

I recommend a book "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World", by Jack Weatherford. It's a very readable history from Genghis' childhood to the point where the empire starts to break up among the grandkids.

I remember playing Age of Empires 2 and invading China, Persia, Russia, Hungary and Poland.

knucklehead6

retalivity wrote: »

I remember playing Age of Empires 2 and invading China, Persia, Russia, Hungary and Poland.

hmmm


Now you're making me want to download it again!!

Capt'n Midnight

Capt'n Midnight

Itssoeasy

Brian? wrote: »

The Rottweiler is a great dog breed. Loyal, intelligent and great with people. Nothing dangerous about them.

Most big dogs get a bad reputation for some reason which is based on a perception and not actually any good reasons. I had two boxer dogs as an adult and had two as a kid and my family had them back to the 1950s. Absolutely beautiful dogs and they are big eijits but excellent around kids and good family dogs. And despite what is said about them they are very smart.

Mimon

josip wrote: »

Where I grew up, the mongrels were pure bred mongrels and could trace their pedigree back through generations of mongrels before them.
A dog that had any kind of breed detectable in them, usually belonged to someone who had 'notions'.

The Egyptian Empire at its height.

When was this? No way the Egyptians had an empire that included Sicily. Does it include Greek controlled areas during the Ptolemaic Kingdom or something?

breezy1985

Mimon wrote: »

When was this? No way the Egyptians had an empire that included Sicily. Does it include Greek controlled areas during the Ptolemaic Kingdom or something?

Thats what I was assuming too. Some of the later dynasties could barely be called Egyptian too

Gorteen

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

I believe Labradors are behind the most attacks on people simply because they are one of the most popular dogs. You take a dog’s food from them, they may bite, regardless of breed.

I recall an extensive survey of all dog bites on humans, carried out in US. I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of bites. The breed most likely to bit was cocker spaniel. The "usual suspects", pit bulls, Rottweiler, etc weren't even in the top five!