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Bushfires in Australia

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    #32
    mandrake04
    Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    So too many trees are to blame here.

    Wow.

    I didn’t say that, although the fuel load to blame is made up of bits of trees, leaves twigs etc. no one can argue with that.

    I just pointed out that although the greens are not in the state or federal government it’s different when it comes to councils.


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    #33
    AngryHippie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    So too many trees are to blame here.

    Wow.

    no.

    Too many trees too close to your house will burn your house down if a bushfire comes through.
    Any firefighter will tell you that.

    We're not talking about chopping down forests. all that needs to happen in there is fuel reduction burning to reduce the intensity of the inevitable bushfires that will happen.
    Lower intensity = slower spread and less damage

    https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/plan-and-prepare/prepare-your-property


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    #34
    hussey
    Registered Users Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    The window for hazard reduction gets shorter and shorter each year
    and here is RFS boss take on it
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-08/rfs-commissioner-says-hazard-reduction-burns-not-the-panacea/11850984

    The current federal government have been in power 21/27 years
    NSW past 9 years
    So to say the greens have had any influence on this is laughable, just the nationals looking to shift blame.

    Also LOL at the poster comparing current fires with one from 1851.


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    #35
    jackbhoy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    el diablo wrote: »
    Right wing conspiracy bs. :rolleyes: Paddy the leftie is surely the most gullible of them all. He'll blindly believe everything that's spewed at him by BBC, RTE etc. Arson and especially the banning of fire breaks by the eco-zombies are responsible for a large percentage of these bushfires in Australia.

    Was man made climate change also responsible for the Black Thursday Bushfires in 1851?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_bushfires

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-07-16/federation-drought-analysis-finds-huge-ecosystem-losses/11312694

    Tedious strawman stuff El Diablo. Even Andrew Bolt is starting to admit climate change is real, albeit he seems to believe it will make the world greener and give us all nice lawns now.

    Yes, bushfires did exist in the past, even big ones like 1851. They will get much worse, much more frequent in the future however.

    If you want to single out the 1851 one you should apply the same cynicism to that event that you do to climate change today , question stuff! e.g. consider the population of the entirety of rural Vic was about same size as Longford is today - in such a sparsely populated area , with such limited resources there was effectively no defence, no fire breaks and no fire fighting so fires essentially burned uncontrollably for weeks, even months.

    Given so few people in the areas impacted, estimates of total impacted acreage are also to be a taken with a big pinch of salt.

    Finally, Vic had much much more wooded area then as it was pre the huge land clearing era that took place by following generations of pastoralists, therefore there was almost limitless amounts of interconnected fuel loads tinder dry and ready to burn.


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