Is Satan running this country? (I'm not religious, but..)

joe40

Paul Lee wrote: »

This thread is inspired by my experiences in the thread about Sex Education in Schools.

Full disclosure.... I was banned off that thread. A few lessons learned, but this subject probably needs it's own thread anyway. Ireland is entering a kind of Dark Age where:

Abortion on demand is OK
Teaching children about masturbation is OK
People are being imprisoned for non payment of VAT while pedophiles get off free.
Lying is acceptable (if you're of the "liberal" persuasion.)
Speaking about mass immigration is "racist"
Speaking about the origins of new violent trends is "racist"
Thinking there are only two genders is some kind of crazy idea.
Free speech is "racist" "bigoted" etc.

Like the title says above, it's as if Satan is running the show here. There's a kind of evil in the air. It seems to be contained in Marxism. It doesn't matter what you call it really but it has the following characteristics:

• Unaccountable Political control.
• Centrally controlled monetary policy based on debt and infinite inflation.
• Housing "crisis" alongside empty houses (akin to suspending gravity)
• Laws being drafted by private elite entities and new global government organisations/ NGOs (UN, NATO, EU, Open Society (George Soros and the remaining Koch Brother) and passed without consultation.
• Referenda being re-run when the usual suspects don't get their way.
• New "Hate Speech" Laws (which only promote hate by suppressing dialogue).

Ireland is going to hell in a handbasket and very few seem to care. The same scenario is being played out in the US, South Africa, Sweden, France, Germany, Venezuela, Chile.

People talk a lot about things they know nothing about. It's as if we've forgotten history yet again. A fertile ground for evil.

So in the first half of the 20th century when literally millions of people were butchered in two world wars, when millions were exterminated in concentration camps, when atomic bombs annihilated cities, who was running the show then.

You people are always banging on about how bad things are now. Nothing could be further from the truth. For all the problems that exist in the world and our country these days, I would still choose this era over any other.

osarusan

Paul Lee wrote: »

Democracy such as it was has all but died. Now we're practically China.

:rolleyes:



So often, people making these arguments make such ridiculous exaggerations that they can't be taken seriously.

alastair

“People talk a lot about things they know nothing about.”

That seemingly includes Balbriggan, sex education, Marxism, and ‘mass immigration’. Not even worthy of a facepalm.

ArmaniJeanss

seamus wrote: »

Fun fact:

The concept of Hell as a place where demons shove pitchforks up your hole, does not exist in the bible (or any of the chritsian texts).

In the broadest sense, "Hell" is the state of not being at one with God. This may be interpreted as being "alive" in the other realm, but not being with God, but it can also have many other possible meanings - such as simply remaining dead while believers are resurrected to everlasting life.

Nothing mentions, eternal, active torture at the hands of Satan. This imagery of fire, brimstone and physical torture, all became very popular and widespread with priests around the same time as Christianity started allowing people to buy absolution with money or labour. Funny coincidence that.

Lots of these Bible verses seem to be about lakes of eternal fire.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/hell-bible-verses/

Paul Lee

joe40 wrote: »

So in the first half of the 20th century when literally millions of people were butchered in two world wars, when millions were exterminated in concentration camps, when atomic bombs annihilated cities, who was running the show then.

You people are always banging on about how bad things are now. Nothing could be further from the truth. For all the problems that exist in the world and our country these days, I would still choose this era over any other.

Millions exterminated in concentration camps. Exactly my point. We have peace in our time. Another excellent point.

So, let's not do that again shall we?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Paul Lee wrote: »

You are part of the new establishment. A valuable asset. For now.

The one capable of free thought and expression, and able to debate said idea, yes.

jam_mac_jam

Cordell wrote: »

Of course Satan is not Marxism, but it should be clear to everyone by now that Marxism is the work of Satan.

No its the work of Marx, Satan does not exist.

Cordell

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

No its the work of Marx, Satan does not exist.

Or, Satan did exist, and his name was Marx

mooreman09

Paul Lee wrote: »

This thread is inspired by my experiences in the thread about Sex Education in Schools.

Full disclosure.... I was banned off that thread. A few lessons learned, but this subject probably needs it's own thread anyway. Ireland is entering a kind of Dark Age where:

Abortion on demand is OK
Teaching children about masturbation is OK
People are being imprisoned for non payment of VAT while pedophiles get off free.
Lying is acceptable (if you're of the "liberal" persuasion.)
Speaking about mass immigration is "racist"
Speaking about the origins of new violent trends is "racist"
Thinking there are only two genders is some kind of crazy idea.
Free speech is "racist" "bigoted" etc.

Like the title says above, it's as if Satan is running the show here. There's a kind of evil in the air. It seems to be contained in Marxism. It doesn't matter what you call it really but it has the following characteristics:

• Unaccountable Political control.
• Centrally controlled monetary policy based on debt and infinite inflation.
• Housing "crisis" alongside empty houses (akin to suspending gravity)
• Laws being drafted by private elite entities and new global government organisations/ NGOs (UN, NATO, EU, Open Society (George Soros and the remaining Koch Brother) and passed without consultation.
• Referenda being re-run when the usual suspects don't get their way.
• New "Hate Speech" Laws (which only promote hate by suppressing dialogue).

Ireland is going to hell in a handbasket and very few seem to care. The same scenario is being played out in the US, South Africa, Sweden, France, Germany, Venezuela, Chile.

People talk a lot about things they know nothing about. It's as if we've forgotten history yet again. A fertile ground for evil.

OP is probably repressing his heathenly impulses and taking it out on others. Definitely in the closet. Trying to pray it away I bet

circadian

Paul Lee wrote: »

This thread is inspired by my experiences in the thread about Sex Education in Schools.

Full disclosure.... I was banned off that thread. A few lessons learned, but this subject probably needs it's own thread anyway. Ireland is entering a kind of Dark Age where:

Abortion on demand is OK
Teaching children about masturbation is OK
People are being imprisoned for non payment of VAT while pedophiles get off free.
Lying is acceptable (if you're of the "liberal" persuasion.)
Speaking about mass immigration is "racist"
Speaking about the origins of new violent trends is "racist"
Thinking there are only two genders is some kind of crazy idea.
Free speech is "racist" "bigoted" etc.

Like the title says above, it's as if Satan is running the show here. There's a kind of evil in the air. It seems to be contained in Marxism. It doesn't matter what you call it really but it has the following characteristics:

• Unaccountable Political control.
• Centrally controlled monetary policy based on debt and infinite inflation.
• Housing "crisis" alongside empty houses (akin to suspending gravity)
• Laws being drafted by private elite entities and new global government organisations/ NGOs (UN, NATO, EU, Open Society (George Soros and the remaining Koch Brother) and passed without consultation.
• Referenda being re-run when the usual suspects don't get their way.
• New "Hate Speech" Laws (which only promote hate by suppressing dialogue).

Ireland is going to hell in a handbasket and very few seem to care. The same scenario is being played out in the US, South Africa, Sweden, France, Germany, Venezuela, Chile.

People talk a lot about things they know nothing about. It's as if we've forgotten history yet again. A fertile ground for evil.

No idea why you'd be banned. Not familiar with the charter in that particular forum but I'd imagine they love a bit of hyperbole and tinfoil hattery. Who doesn't?

robindch

Paul Lee wrote: »

People talk a lot about things they know nothing about.

Indeed.

Anyway, you sound like you need a hug.

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Paul Lee

mooreman09 wrote: »

OP is probably repressing his heathenly impulses and taking it out on others. Definitely in the closet. Trying to pray it away I bet

Huh, yeah I bet he is.... Hey wait a minute.

Paul Lee

circadian wrote: »

No idea why you'd be banned. Not familiar with the charter in that particular forum but I'd imagine they love a bit of hyperbole and tinfoil hattery. Who doesn't?

I agree. They just can't take the pressure over there.

Paul Lee

robindch wrote: »

Indeed.

Anyway, you sound like you need a hug.

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Ah, no you're grand but thanks for the thought.

Paul Lee

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The one capable of free thought and expression, and able to debate said idea, yes.

Free thought and expression... I take it you're against the proposed hate speech laws then?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Paul Lee wrote: »

Free thought and expression... I take it you're against the proposed hate speech laws then?

Hate speech generally does not involve thought, free or otherwise. People who express hate tend to be racist and it's easy to highlight the flaws in their arguments and the ignorance of their stance anyway, so I'd have no problem with said laws.

Then they start whining that they can't express themselves and it's someone else's fault. Question then is; why didn't they learn how to do it?

The only way I'd oppose it is when they propose or use violence.

Paul Lee

Paul Lee wrote: »

Opinions are fine. Arguments are better.

Well given the fact that you refused to provide any evidence to back up your argument, I think it would be accurate to call it as it is, bullsh1t.

Snow Garden

Paul Lee wrote: »

You are part of the new establishment. A valuable asset. For now.

Your Boards account is 11 years old and only has 128 posts.

Why did you pick now to become so animated?

Bobblehats

Paul Lee

Paul Lee wrote: »

Yes. Democracy such as it was has all but died. Now we're practically China. There is only one party to choose from- and they're only getting started on the slippery slope.

Not even close to being China. You really should spend some time here before making such a statement.

Ireland has issues with it's political system. All mature democracies do... but it's not a totalitarian police state by any measure. Anyway, China only claims to be socialist. It's not. It's not even marxist or communist anymore. It's something else that hasn't been classified yet.

No-one will admit we're sliding into chaos. Until long after the fact has become blatantly obvious. Actually we're already there as far as I'm concerned.

Plenty of people are aware of the problems, but you're exaggerating. Another decade or two of the same crap as now, and I might agree with you. Unlikely, but it's possible i might.

Don't get me wrong. It's the indigenous Irish that I'm more prejudiced against than any other group. I'm one of them so there you go. I think we Irish left on this island are in general indeed a bit thick. And a little bit evil too. I think it's a choice more than anything else. We choose to be thick and evil.

There's a saying that traders have- "Don't believe anything until it's been officially denied."

Well, thank you for the unintended compliment! I didn't realise I was better than other Irish people because I live abroad. That's awesome. Completely retarded an idea, but awesome all the same.

Nah. I don't buy it. Ireland and Irish people are evolving, trying new things and repeating a lot of older mistakes. It's normal, and I have hope that Irish people will seek to balance both the society and political systems. So much has changed in Ireland since I was born, and a crap-ton of that has been positive. I suspect you need to get out of Ireland for a few years, and gain some perspective.

James Brown

We are chasing Satan out of Irish life. Now Pope Francis seems like a decent aul' skin but once we're completely rid of religion dictating policy, we'll be free.

The Satanist

Dafuq's going on in here?

circadian

The Satanist wrote: »

Dafuq's going on in here?

You're in charge apparently.

LaFuton

does anybody read the mystical stuff?
they bang on about satan and god being concepts or systems as opposed to anthropomorphic deities, great bunch of lads, the mystics.

James Brown

The trouble with the pagan's was there was no money in it.

CinemaGuy45

Paul Lee wrote: »

This thread is inspired by my experiences in the thread about Sex Education in Schools.

Full disclosure.... I was banned off that thread. A few lessons learned, but this subject probably needs it's own thread anyway. Ireland is entering a kind of Dark Age where:

Abortion on demand is OK
Teaching children about masturbation is OK
People are being imprisoned for non payment of VAT while pedophiles get off free.
Lying is acceptable (if you're of the "liberal" persuasion.)
Speaking about mass immigration is "racist"
Speaking about the origins of new violent trends is "racist"
Thinking there are only two genders is some kind of crazy idea.
Free speech is "racist" "bigoted" etc.

Like the title says above, it's as if Satan is running the show here. There's a kind of evil in the air. It seems to be contained in Marxism. It doesn't matter what you call it really but it has the following characteristics:

• Unaccountable Political control.
• Centrally controlled monetary policy based on debt and infinite inflation.
• Housing "crisis" alongside empty houses (akin to suspending gravity)
• Laws being drafted by private elite entities and new global government organisations/ NGOs (UN, NATO, EU, Open Society (George Soros and the remaining Koch Brother) and passed without consultation.
• Referenda being re-run when the usual suspects don't get their way.
• New "Hate Speech" Laws (which only promote hate by suppressing dialogue).

Ireland is going to hell in a handbasket and very few seem to care. The same scenario is being played out in the US, South Africa, Sweden, France, Germany, Venezuela, Chile.

People talk a lot about things they know nothing about. It's as if we've forgotten history yet again. A fertile ground for evil.

OP your post has 16 thanks including mine and the next post mocking it has 79.

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

wassie

Paul Lee wrote: »

Yes. Democracy such as it was has all but died. Now we're practically China. There is only one party to choose from- and they're only getting started on the slippery slope.
"

LOL....our digital dystopian future is a long way short of that of modern day China dude. Social credit has a very different meaning over there than here.

Check this out and be scared. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/china-social-credit-a-model-citizen-in-a-digital-dictatorship/10200278

CinemaGuy45

wassie wrote: »

LOL....our digital dystopian future is a long way short of that of modern day China dude. Social credit has a very different meaning over there than here.

Check this out and be scared. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/china-social-credit-a-model-citizen-in-a-digital-dictatorship/10200278

We may have a ways to go but we are headed that way also make no mistake.

wassie

Really - in what way?

Did you even look at the presentation?

storker

It's funny how how rants like that in the OP decide that evil is to be found in (a) areas of personal morality and (b) aspects of politics that they don't like. It's telling, I think that he doesn't mention things like child slavery, mass murder, religious intolerance, grinding poverty, disease and hunger. They don't seem to be worth getting your knicker's in a knot about, apparently, but what age kids start jerking off at, yup, that's the work of Satan, alright.

I could go on to write a long answer to the nonsense in the OP, but it's not worth the trouble and a would have as much effect, I suspect, as bullets hitting Superman, so I'll just suggest that the OP really should cop himself on and get some smidgen of perspective on what "evil" really involves. Some leads to put into Google that might be helpful:

• Fred and Rose West
• Peter Sutcliffe
• Pol Pot
• Joseph Stalin
• The Holocaust
• The Ku Klux Klan
• Islamic State
• Ted Bundy
• John Wayne Gacey

Read about that lot, and then see if you think that a re-run of a referendum still qualifies as evidence of evil.

I'd add another line, but it would only earn me a ban and a deleted post.