Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

tayto lover

emmetlego wrote: »

That's so kind. Thank you.

It’s very true though.
If this Coronavirus pandemic has taught us anything it’s that the people on the Frontline are who we really rely on at times of trouble. Probably not the highest earners but certainly the most respected.

DenMan

Liverpool are the latest Premier League club to place some of their non-playing staff on temporary leave. I wonder will we follow suit. The Government in the UK pays for 80% of the wages through a scheme and the club makes up the remaining 20%.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52165826

Skylinehead

DenMan wrote: »

Liverpool are the latest Premier League club to place some of their non-playing staff on temporary leave. I wonder will we follow suit. The Government in the UK pays for 80% of the wages through a scheme and the club makes up the remaining 20%.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52165826

Hope not. Clubs are plenty rich enough to take the burden.

Ardennes1944

The government only covers 80% up to a max of 2500 pounds a month.

KaiserGunner

OmegaGene wrote: »

If a club did use the government money I would imagine it would be for non playing staff not the players on mega money lol
Would clubs really take the 80% ? I can’t see the premier league clubs taking it but I could be wrong

Yep, Spurs, Liverpool, Bournemouth, Norwich and Newcastle have furloughed non-playing staff. I’d like to think Arsenal won’t be going down that road, but with Stan Kroenke I really wouldn’t be surprised if they do.

greendom

OmegaGene wrote: »

But doesn’t that mean that the staff stay at home and get paid by the club as normal

Through no fault of their own. If the club can afford it where's the harm

beer enigma

Willian on a free could be interesting, apparently he's committed to leaving Chelsea and was talking with Spurs until Edu picked up the phone to him.

emmetlego

beer enigma wrote: »

Willian on a free could be interesting, apparently he's committed to leaving Chelsea and was talking with Spurs until Edu picked up the phone to him.

Great player. That would be good business.

Skylinehead

Willian is awful lads. Does nothing for 90% of seasons, do people actually want him?

Lingard's even worse

greendom

Skylinehead wrote: »

Willian is awful lads. Does nothing for 90% of seasons, do people actually want him?

Lingard's even worse

I'll begin to lose faith in Arteta if he wants Lingard!

Quazzie

Why did we bother getting rid of Wlebeck if we're going to bring in Aldi-Welbeck in lingard?

mossie

Quazzie wrote: »

Why did we bother getting rid of Wlebeck if we're going to bring in Aldi-Welbeck in lingard?

I think the Lingard rumour started on April 1st so hopefully am April fool story.

FixitFelix

Quazzie wrote: »

Why did we bother getting rid of Wlebeck if we're going to bring in Aldi-Welbeck in lingard?

Couldn't see this being true and def can't see Arteta wanting this clown around the team, he'll be trying to get rid of dead wood not buying other peoples

KaiserGunner

OmegaGene wrote: »

But doesn’t that mean that the staff stay at home and get paid by the club as normal

The staff are at home and are getting 100% of their wages. However it is the government that are paying them 80% and the clubs are paying the 20%.

CatInABox

OmegaGene wrote: »

But how do we know for sure arsenal are taking the money from the goverment scheme ?

It's not been announced yet.

Also, the 20% that the company puts in is optional. Spurs and a few others have announced that they've chosen not to pay the 20%, while Man City have chosen to pay the 20%.

This isn't spurs bashing, by the way, it's just a fact, and I can see why they (and others) have done it. While they might be worth hundreds millions as a company, that's only notional, on the stock market. They've got to pay their staff from their incoming cash, and with all football suspended, that's probably disappeared. Whether a club chooses to do it or not will largely come down to their balance sheet, and that's why that furlough system has been put in place in the first place, a lot of places could go under without it.

If this keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few clubs go under anyway, even with all the supports in place.

2ndcoming

City are paying 100%, as are Arsenal so far as we know.

Liverpool and Spurs are allowing the govt pay 80% of non-playing staff wages which looks obscene when they are both owned by billionaires and the govt could be spending that money on health services.

KaiserGunner

OmegaGene wrote: »

But how do we know for sure arsenal are taking the money from the goverment scheme ?

No, I meant Spurs, Newcastle, Liverpool, Bournemouth and Norwich were. Just hoping that Arsenal don’t go down that road.

tayto lover

Skylinehead wrote: »

Willian is awful lads. Does nothing for 90% of seasons, do people actually want him?

Lingard's even worse

I’ve only seen Willian a few times and he played well every time.
Has good pace to take on a player and has a good delivery.
Maybe that’s just a coincidence but I was impressed with him.
Lindgard is awful.

Skylinehead

tayto lover wrote: »

I’ve only seen Willian a few times and he played well every time.
Has good pace to take on a player and has a good delivery.
Maybe that’s just a coincidence but I was impressed with him.
Lindgard is awful.

Chelsea fans aren't exactly fond of him these days.

FixitFelix

Skylinehead wrote: »

Chelsea fans aren't exactly fond of him these days.

Wonder why that is

DenMan

Willian also had a knack of playing well against us. I'd take him in a heartbeat.

DenMan

Liverpool have reversed their decision to furlough some of their non-playing staff and have apologised to their fans.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11969523/liverpool-reverse-furlough-decision-and-apologise-to-fans

emmetlego

DenMan wrote: »

Liverpool have reversed their decision to furlough some of their non-playing staff and have apologised to their fans.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11969523/liverpool-reverse-furlough-decision-and-apologise-to-fans

Thank God. Pool fans were wondering what that strange feeling was, not being on the moral high ground.

FixitFelix

DenMan wrote: »

Liverpool have reversed their decision to furlough some of their non-playing staff and have apologised to their fans.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/11969523/liverpool-reverse-furlough-decision-and-apologise-to-fans

They're being praised for putting out a fire they started

keano_afc

FixitFelix wrote: »

They're being praised for putting out a fire they started

Bit like China.

DenMan

Brilliant! Well done all! 👏

https://www.arsenal.com/news/arsenal-foundation-delivers-emergency-supplies?fbclid=IwAR0_p1I8SRh6bIC3IAI9UGP6nd3hVH70847ED7upiZiJI5rOfY2vakQPBwM

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

This is a great little read.


https://www.arsenal.com/news/kim-kallstrom-my-own-words?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

DenMan

Happy Easter gooners!

Irish Aris

Happy Easter everyone!!
Hope you all have a great day despite the difficulties!!

DenMan

Arsenal the first Premier League club whose players agree to a wage cut. Also Champions League qualification incentives included for next season or the season after.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52322495

DenMan

The vast majority of the staff and players have agreed to this voluntary 12.5% reduction in wages, except for Ozil and two others supposedly!

beer enigma

DenMan wrote: »

The vast majority of the staff and players have agreed to this voluntary 12.5% reduction in wages, except for Ozil and two others supposedly!

Mhiki is apparently another one, but I'm more concerned about who is leaking, makes the club look really bad..

DenMan

beer enigma wrote: »

Mhiki is apparently another one, but I'm more concerned about who is leaking, makes the club look really bad..

Are Ozil and Mkhitaryan both represented by the same agent?

L'prof

DenMan wrote: »

Are Ozil and Mkhitaryan both represented by the same agent?

Nah. Mkhitaryan is Raiola. Özil isn’t

beer enigma

OmegaGene wrote: »

For those who want to know about the bizarre table that could help Arsenal into the Champions League, here it is.

European football chiefs will consider using coefficient rankings to decide who plays in the Champions League and Europa League next term — if domestic leagues cannot be finished.

The back-door rule would stun Chelsea and Leicester, especially, who currently sit in the top four, while Manchester United would also benefit.

I was always a great fan of coefficients, we should sign him

OmegaGene

OmegaGene wrote: »

For those who want to know about the bizarre table that could help Arsenal into the Champions League, here it is.

European football chiefs will consider using coefficient rankings to decide who plays in the Champions League and Europa League next term — if domestic leagues cannot be finished.

The back-door rule would stun Chelsea and Leicester, especially, who currently sit in the top four, while Manchester United would also benefit.

Where's the table? Us, utd, city and pool?

Poor sp*rs

tayto lover

We’d need to be signing a few decent players before we could even contemplate the Champions League. We’re not near good enough at the moment.

CatInABox

tayto lover wrote: »

We’d need to be signing a few decent players before we could even contemplate the Champions League. We’re not near good enough at the moment.

Don't care, to be honest. Getting knocked out in the group stages gets us more money than winning Europa league, and I gather that this covid19 stuff has put us into dire straights.

It's more attractive to players as well.

beer enigma

tayto lover wrote: »

We’d need to be signing a few decent players before we could even contemplate the Champions League. We’re not near good enough at the moment.

It might make signing a half decent player a bit easier

tayto lover

beer enigma wrote: »

It might make signing a half decent player a bit easier

That’s a benefit provided we did well but a few hidings from the big boys would soon change all that and have the opposite effect.
Fail to prepare .........

jonneymendoza

OmegaGene wrote: »

You’re not wrong there, the current team would get slapped silly against the big dogs
I used to go crazy without football in the summer but now I’m not even missing it, funny the way things change

Wasnt we already getting slapped silly by the big guns ever since we moved to the emirates LOL

Ol' Donie

Woah! Just out of curiosity I searched for The Tuesday Club podcast on my podcast app and lo and behold there's a trailer for a return in a new feed from a couple of days ago!

Thank Christ, I needed something like this!

Irish Gunner

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Woah! Just out of curiosity I searched for The Tuesday Club podcast on my podcast app and lo and behold there's a trailer for a return in a new feed from a couple of days ago!

Thank Christ, I needed something like this!

New podcast out on eh Tuesday 👌

carltonleon

beer enigma wrote: »

It might make signing a half decent player a bit easier

How did you figure that?? It’s going to be so much harder to sign a player, imho.
The current players have all taken a pay cut so how can we go out and sign a player and not alienate the current squad?
“Ah sure youse all take pay cuts but we will still spend this money that we have sitting in our bank acct to sign a.n.other and give him a signing on fee and full wages etc etc “ ... really not sure if that works, to be honest!!!

carltonleon

carltonleon wrote: »

How did you figure that?? It’s going to be so much harder to sign a player, imho.
The current players have all taken a pay cut so how can we go out and sign a player and not alienate the current squad?
“Ah sure youse all take pay cuts but we will still spend this money that we have sitting in our bank acct to sign a.n.other and give him a signing on fee and full wages etc etc “ ... really not sure if that works, to be honest!!!

That's some pretty strange logic.

It's easier to sign a decent player if you can offer them champions League football, it's that simple. Your theory about the effects of the Coronavirus aren't really relevant, as every club is affected by it.

Are you suggesting that clubs with players on pay cuts can't sign any new players, due to the fact existing players who are getting paid reduced wages (because they're not actually working) will be upset by it?

beer enigma

Just had a worrying chat over a possible Auba to Chelsea will Willian as part of the deal, I know we'd been offered Willian but Jesus not with Auba as part

tayto lover

beer enigma wrote: »

Just had a worrying chat over a possible Auba to Chelsea will Willian as part of the deal, I know we'd been offered Willian but Jesus not with Auba as part

We need to hold onto our best players and also strengthen in other areas where needed.

Ol' Donie

beer enigma wrote: »

Just had a worrying chat over a possible Auba to Chelsea will Willian as part of the deal, I know we'd been offered Willian but Jesus not with Auba as part

Sounds about right. All this Covid nonsense has put the breaks on our normal eejitry.

Something ibecilic is already overdue.

DenMan

Madrid have told Arsenal they want €50m (£44m) for Ceballos. I can't see Arsenal agreeing to that but you'll never know.

batistuta9

beer enigma wrote: »

Just had a worrying chat over a possible Auba to Chelsea will Willian as part of the deal, I know we'd been offered Willian but Jesus not with Auba as part

Willian is out of contract, not sure what he'd have to do with anything.