Man slaps reporters ass live on air

andekwarhola

As crass as it was, it instantly reminded me of a scene in one of my favourite books:

""Right," he replies smartly and, in a mindless follow through, an overflow of coordination, she having on the drop of his answer turned with prim dismissal away from him again, slaps! her sassy ass. Not hard: a cupping hit, rebuke and fond pat both, well-placed on the pocket.

She swiftly pivots, swinging her backside to safety behind her. Her freckles dart sharp as pinpricks from her shocked face. Her leaping blood bleaches her skin, and her rigidly cold stare is so incongruous with the lazy condescending warmth he feels toward her, that he pushes his upper lip over his lower in a burlesque expression of penitence."

_Brian

Have to say this thread is bringing out some real douche bag responses.

This guy was way way out of order.

I think there is an assault case here, possibly of a sexual nature but that would be up to more learned people than myself.

If I were his employer I’d be concerned about his behaviour, if he were in a scout group where my kids went I’d be asking serious questions about his fitness to continue considering his poor inappropriate decision making.

If he’s willing to do that in public what would he do if he thought nobody was looking ??

Raconteuse

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I condemn the slap of course if she didn’t consent.

I want women to condemn sexual assaults on men also.

Of course she didn't consent ffs.

It wasn't sexual assault imo - just someone being a rude twat.

Yeah obviously plenty of women condemn sexual assault of men. Sometimes it's other men who dismiss it.

Honestly? You think absolutely no women would be disgusted by sexual assault of men?

Ted_YNWA

Oakvalley wrote: »

Would it be a hold black people responsible story if a black person slapped her on the ass?

_Brian wrote: »

If he’s willing to do that in public what would he do if he thought nobody was looking ??

Mod

Let's not drag this down a road of this nature.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Homelander wrote: »

He was utterly idiotic to do it and it's not something I'd ever do or say was OK, but I don't really get the witch hunt like he's the greatest threat to women since Ted Bundy either.

Some of the news report definitely adopting the Simpsons 'Homer Badman' angle.

On that Simpson’s episode, we know that Homer didn’t grab her arse. He peeled a sweet off it. Do you think we’ve made the same mistake here? Do you think he didn’t smack her arse intentionally?

anewme

Cain Future Bikini wrote: »

I also think Ms Bozarjian is using this incident opportunistically as a platform to advance her career. In recent days, she has successfully catapulted herself from an obscure regional reporter — who on Black Friday was "following shoppers on their very exciting endeavors," per her Twitter feed — to a national figure appearing on syndicated talk shows, which is every journalist's dream.

And why wouldn't she?

Seize the day.

Raconteuse

Oakvalley wrote: »

Wow, engage your brain.

Could be applied to numerous posts here. I do engage my brain all the time - and yeah, touching the arm of someone whom you are talking to, while I think it's over familiar myself and not sure how appropriate it is, is still not the same as slapping a stranger on the arse. Obviously.

Just because you don't like my post, doesn't mean my brain wasn't engaged.

Homelander

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

On that Simpson’s episode, we know that Homer didn’t grab her arse. He peeled a sweet off it. Do you think we’ve made the same mistake here? Do you think he didn’t smack her arse intentionally?

Nothing to do with Homer. The image is about Groundskeeper Willie, they play up what he's done to paint him as a sick, twisted pervert.

Homer: That man is sick!
Marge: Groundskeeper Willie saved you, Homer.
Homer: But listen to the music! He's evil!

Just pointing out that some of the dramatic news reports are way OTT, and that's not excusing that he did it, or suggesting it wasn't wrong.

Doctors room ghost

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Opportunism my friend.
The easily offended thrive on it.you see an opening and you milk it.
Off work now with the “social anxiety” is my bet.
She will be cured miraculously after the court case though

Some scummy groper slaps a woman live on tv while she's just doing her job, but SHE'S the one with the problem. Gotcha.

Esse85 wrote: »

To be named and shamed world wide for slapping a girls ass is completely over the top.

Had he murdered her on camera then fair enough. The punishment far out weighs the crime here. Yes he was completely wrong to do what he did.

He's the one who put himself in the public eye by humiliating and hitting a woman in front of a camera. He's the author of his own misfortune, and I've zero sympathy with him.

gormdubhgorm

Raconteuse wrote: »

How? Who is saying "boo men"?!

And now there's some genius equating touching the arm of someone you're talking to with slapping a stranger on the arse.

Through the looking glass stuff...

I will explain it simply for you that is the general tenant of the level of media sensationalism in the OP's video for example.
That is the general implied undertones of it.
As I said it is understandable it attracts interest - marketing and is spun to give other women a send of empowerment on thier last? - crusade.

It is an historical legacy of being tied to the cooker, unable to vote until recent history etc. That is why there is such a reaction because there is constant search for new angles for first world women to 'fight the good fight.'

DopeTech

Give her a smack on the arse and tell her I was asking for her!

Lefty Bicek

KiKiReturns wrote: »

I agree, but why wouldn’t she?

So as not to look like a cynical careerist who is not, contrary to her own words...

To the man who smacked my butt on live TV this morning: You violated, objectified, and embarrassed me. No woman should EVER have to put up with this at work or anywhere!! Do better.

But, that's the cesspit that is American media.

nkl12xtw5goz70

anewme wrote: »

And why wouldn't she?

Seize the day.

Fair enough. She's entitled to seize the day — but onlookers are also entitled to observe that her actions seem to be driven by a desire for career-enhancing publicity.

KiKiReturns

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

So as not to look like a cynical careerist who is not, contrary to her own words...



But, that's the cesspit that is American media.

She was put in a situation she didn’t ask for, she’s making the best of it. Fair fücks to her.

Raconteuse

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I will explain it simply for you that is the general tenant of the level of media sensationalism in the OP's video for example.
That is the general implied undertones of it.
As I said it is understandable it attracts interest - marketing and is spun to give other women a send of empowerment on thier last? - crusade.

It is an historical legacy of being tied to the cooker, unable to vote until recent history etc. That is why there is such a reaction because there is constant search for new angles for first world women to 'fight the good fight.'

You don't need to explain it simply for me. And it's "tenet".

Only you and those who refuse to condemn it are whatabouting and going on about empowerment and bla bla.

The rest of us are just talking about the incident, and how that's a sh1t thing for anyone to do to anyone doing a live broadcast. Only some are hell bent on a battle of the sexes.

Still waters

She would want to toughen up a bit

KiKiReturns

Cain Future Bikini wrote: »

Fair enough. She's entitled to seize the day — but onlookers are also entitled to observe that her actions seem to be driven by a desire for career-enhancing publicity.

She may have more than one motivation. It’s quite likely she’s motivated both by career enhancement and the opportunity to highlight that what happened to her was wrong.

Raconteuse

Now it has turned into a sh1t storm out of proportion I agree - and she is an opportunist

But that doesn't change how sh1tty the incident was, and the downplaying and ridiculing (purely because she's a woman) started early on.

gormdubhgorm

KiKiReturns wrote: »

What makes me laugh is that people say feminists have a victim mentality. And yet when a woman gets slapped on the arse on live tv, somehow men are the real victims here.

No where have I said that I merely pointed out the senstationism and the reason for it as historically women generally have a different standing in society to men on the whole.
Women constantly search for ways to decries thier inequality it is pure politics.
Unfortunately women cannot make men pregnant so they will never be true equality. Jobs etc etc CEO's and so on.

If videos like the OP's make women feel good about themselves and make themselves feel stronger fair enough, no harm I suppose.
But if it is done too sensationally and too often sensationally it loses its effect.
This is the point another poster was trying to make.
Plus it also devalues other women in the more serious cases as a result.
It becomes a slow erosion of credibility.

anewme

Cain Future Bikini wrote: »

Fair enough. She's entitled to seize the day — but onlookers are also entitled to observe that her actions seem to be driven by a desire for career-enhancing publicity.

Yep, so what though.?

She didn't ask for that eejit to hit her.

For every action there is a reaction. His action caused her reaction and now he has to face the consequences.

If she gets a better job out of it, fair play.

KiKiReturns

I’d feel very differently if the guy in question owned his behaviour- he could have said something like “It was the end of the race, there was a lot of high jinks and in the spur of the moment I did something totally out of character. I apologise unreservedly to the reporter.”

rafatoni

facehugger99 wrote: »

Someone's been watching too many Liam Neeson films.

Always laugh when i read that nonsense on here. As Mcg would say "ya will do bleeding nuting"

Can I just remind people that it was the man slapping her on the arse that has caused this story to be seen around the world. THAT is the reason why;

A. There is a story

B. We're discussing it now.

Had he not done so, the woman would have carried on with her job as normal, reporting the news, and we'd all be wandering around the rest of Boards.

You'd swear she jumped on his hand, and then cried foul, the way some of ye are carrying on.

gormdubhgorm

Raconteuse wrote: »

You don't need to explain it simply for me. And it's "tenet".

Only you and those who refuse to condemn it are whatabouting and going on about empowerment and bla bla.

The rest of us are just talking about the incident, and how that's a sh1t thing for anyone to do to anyone doing a live broadcast. Only some are hell bent on a battle of the sexes.

?

I was thinking of the beer I think?
Again you are making assumptions nowhere did I say it was OK. I said it was wrong given its context. My main gripe is the sensatinalism and if any comparision is made that people cannot counter it is termed as whataboutery.

It is an historical legacy -

I think it is basically

The Power chain world is like this =

White Men
White Women -white Gay men -subsets of
Black men subsets of
Black women subsets of etc etc

Travellers would be the lowest tier in Ireland I would think - so they have a lot of climbing to do

There is always the talk of glass ceilings when it comes to women and or minorities. It is why videos like the OP get spun as a crusade.

Hego Damask

"He stole a part of my body" .... Missus will YA SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!

disrespectful to actual sexual assault victims!!

Huntergonzo

KiKiReturns wrote: »

But where is the witch-hunt in this story? It’s not a story about the male gender as a whole, it’s about this one guy. We know it’s not made up because he was retarded enough to do it on camera.

Do you think there should be any consequences at all to touching a woman’s behind on live tv as she goes about her work?

If not, where would you draw the line? What if he’s honka honk’d her boobs? Grabbed her vagina? How would you feel if it was your wife/ daughter/ sister?

The only people making this about men in general are the men on the thread.

But again, it's the fact that there are so many 'bad male behaviour' stories out there, they're never ending. Now maybe men are all bad and women are all victims, but I seriously doubt it.

In fact what I saw at my christmas party last week was the exact opposite, it was the ladies slapping mens arses and nothing in return but you won't hear that reported on the news, no chance!

But if we're purely talking about this story in isolation, yes of course he was stupid to do what he done, it was idiotic. I don't think a slap on the arse is a big news story though, I've had female colleagues do it to me, but hey, I have a nice arse :-)

Ps, would I do it back? No chance, not if I wanted to stay employed!!!

gormdubhgorm

Hego Damask wrote: »

"He stole a part of my body" .... Missus will YA SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!

disrespectful to actual sexual assault victims!!

That is the type of thing I am trying to explain - but apparently it is engaging in whataboutery and condoning the man in questions behaviour on here.

Apparently there is no grey went it comes to the issue, you are either with them or against them!

Raconteuse

Ach, I dunno. I don't care about the glass ceiling, I don't feel bitter about treatment of women in the past, I've always been treated very well, the gender pay gap is a crock, I hate seeing men experience unfairness because of being men... there is a rise in misogyny online though, and a belittling of women's experiences like this. Not earth shattering - but still absolutely zero grounds for dismissal/ridicule.

Reviews and Books Galore

Hego Damask wrote: »

"He stole a part of my body" .... Missus will YA SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!

disrespectful to actual sexual assault victims!!

The sad thing is, is what he did was wrong and she shouldn't have to put up with, but she is blatantly playing victim here.



Apparently, if you watch the interview I linked earlier, he 'hit her so hard it hurt, 'It hurt her emotionally and physically', and a few other things.



Tbh, I kind of have doubts he did it in on puprose to begin with, but time will tell.

nkl12xtw5goz70

anewme wrote: »

For every action there is a reaction. His action caused her reaction and now he has to face the consequences.

Well, it's more complicated. Her initial reaction was a Tweet condemning the man's actions — but that Tweet got almost 200,000 retweets and almost three-quarters of a million likes. It led to a lot of publicity, and got her bookings on national talk shows, but also attracted criticism that she was making a mountain out of a molehill. So now she has filed criminal charges for sexual battery in an effort to prove her critics wrong and/or gain even more publicity.

He undeniably did something wrong. But the way that it has escalated, so that a slap on the ass in Georgia is now being hotly debated on a discussion forum thousands of miles away and will likely lead to a widely publicized court case, is a classic instance of social media snowballing.

KiKiReturns

Huntergonzo wrote: »

But again, it's the fact that there are so many 'bad male behaviour' stories out there, they're never ending. Now maybe men are all bad and women are all victims, but I seriously doubt it.

In fact what I saw at my christmas party last week was the exact opposite, it was the ladies slapping mens arses and nothing in return but you won't hear that reported on the news, no chance!

But if we're purely talking about this story in isolation, yes of course he was stupid to do what he done, it was idiotic. I don't think a slap on the arse is a big news story though, I've had female colleagues do it to me, but hey, I have a nice arse :-)

Ps, would I do it back? No chance, not if I wanted to stay employed!!!

The biggest stories in the news lately that paint men in a bad light have been to do with Harvey Weinstein’s settlement, Jeffrey Epstein’s victims, the Prince Andrew debacle etc

Maybe you should be mad at them for doing such awful stuff that it’s in the news all the time. These stories are newsworthy, it’s not a witch-hunt.

Raconteuse

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

That is the type of thing I am trying to explain - but apparently it is engaging in whataboutery and condoning the man in questions behaviour on here.

Apparently there is no grey went it comes to the issue, you are either with them or against them!

What she said is pure scutter of course - it's not whatabouting to say that. But there was very much whatabouting earlier. I mean it was literally "and what about when men are slapped on the arse".

Raconteuse

Hego Damask wrote: »

"He stole a part of my body" .... Missus will YA SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!!

disrespectful to actual sexual assault victims!!

She's letting the side down now.

gormdubhgorm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

This woman here sued for 10m dollars from an airline as she was sexually assaulted on a plane.

10m dollars!!!
.

the alleged must have been hitting the drinks trolley hard.

ceadaoin.

Huntergonzo wrote: »

But again, it's the fact that there are so many 'bad male behaviour' stories out there, they're never ending. Now maybe men are all bad and women are all victims, but I seriously doubt it.

But no one is saying that those stories mean that men are "all bad"?

Doctors room ghost

Dollar bills boys,dollar bills.

gormdubhgorm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

But again, it's the fact that there are so many 'bad male behaviour' stories out there, they're never ending. Now maybe men are all bad and women are all victims, but I seriously doubt it.

In fact what I saw at my christmas party last week was the exact opposite, it was the ladies slapping mens arses and nothing in return but you won't hear that reported on the news, no chance!

But if we're purely talking about this story in isolation, yes of course he was stupid to do what he done, it was idiotic. I don't think a slap on the arse is a big news story though, I've had female colleagues do it to me, but hey, I have a nice arse :-)

Ps, would I do it back? No chance, not if I wanted to stay employed!!!

Exactly, but the pity is there are I assume - lots of intelligent women on this thread who are unwilling to even consider this well point.
As it would make them seem less of a feminist maybe?
Women and men will never to be truly equal how offices would find it acceptable to have a man cry about a mini crisis. Whereas many women are wired to cry more (the minority use it as a tactic to turn on the waterworks.

Smacking people on the arse is wrong in the OP's context but there are of course scenarios where it is acceptable.

The fact that this video has gone viral only highlights the difference in social standing that women still have v men. If a man was smacked it would not get any interest.

Huntergonzo

Raconteuse wrote: »

Who's holding "men" responsible?

A man is being held responsible for a thing he did himself. On camera.

It's one incident. Nobody is denying the wider issues but this is one incident!

Yes I know, and we'll hear of another soon enough, then another.....and another and they will all be men doing terrible things to women.

Listen, I naively thought a few years ago that media outlets were doing good in highlighting genuinely terrible things that men were doing to women (and I would honestly not make light of that, they need to be highlighted).

But again it was every single day, there had to be at least one 'man bad, woman victim' story and to me that's witch hunt 101. Call it what you like, but you can't seriously call it balanced reporting.

Ps, yes the man was absolutely wrong to do what he done in this particular case, no denying that.

nkl12xtw5goz70

KiKiReturns wrote: »

The biggest stories in the news lately that paint men in a bad light have been to do with Harvey Weinstein’s settlement, Jeffrey Epstein’s victims, the Prince Andrew debacle etc

It would be nice if we could have a sense of proportion, though.

Weinstein allegedly sexually abused over 80 women. Epstein sexually abused and trafficked numerous young women, including girls as young as 14.

This marathon runner slapped a reporter on the ass. What he did was wrong, but it's not remotely in the same league as Weinstein/Epstein wrong.

beyond doubt this was bang out of order but the guy's life is going to be really fooked now with the whole "virality" aspect of this. probably doesn't deserve the level of impact that it is going to have.

I would agree as others have said that if it was a male reporter in the race who had his ass slapped by a woman then there would be no story.

gormdubhgorm

Raconteuse wrote: »

She's letting the side down now.

Why is there a 'side' just because she is a women?
Which comes back to my 'women's last crusade' point you just made it for me.

The women is not painted just as a person but a representative of the 'cause' the 'side'.
Phrases such as these really damage feminism/equality etc in my view.

Huntergonzo

KiKiReturns wrote: »

The biggest stories in the news lately that paint men in a bad light have been to do with Harvey Weinstein’s settlement, Jeffrey Epstein’s victims, the Prince Andrew debacle etc

Maybe you should be mad at them for doing such awful stuff that it’s in the news all the time. These stories are newsworthy, it’s not a witch-hunt.

Yes those were bad men, problem is these 'bad men' stories are ten a penny these days, apparently that's what passes as balanced journalism.

It's witch hunt 101 I'm afraid.

Raconteuse

I don't give a hoot about seeming less feminist. I don't identify as a feminist at all actually. More a humanist.

Of course there is a double standard when it comes to men or women being groped - it would be delusional to suggest otherwise. What bugged us though was the way people leaped in to talk in an accusatory tone about that when it was about this one incident. And then the making up that we are all ok with men being groped. And the ridiculing of this incident because men get groped too. Etc. It's tiresome.

The guy in the video is very wrong. You just can’t do that in 2019. You have to be so careful with consent.

I’m sure there are plenty of women out there that would love a guy they fancy to make the first move. Maybe a flirty tickle, ass grab or go for the kiss... but that will probably be happening a lot less these days.

Too many potential consequences. Glad I’m not single these days!

Raconteuse

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Why is there a 'side' just because she is a women?
Which comes back to my 'women's last crusade' point you just made it for me.

The women is not painted just as a person but a representative of the 'cause' the 'side'.
Phrases such as these really damage feminism/equality etc in my view.

Ah you know what I mean. She's giving ammunition now to the "women are the worst" crowd. She's being a fecking dope.

Huntergonzo

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Exactly, but the pity is there are I assume - lots of intelligent women on this thread who are unwilling to even consider this well point.
As it would make them seem less of a feminist maybe?
Women and men will never to be truly equal how offices would find it acceptable to have a man cry about a mini crisis. Whereas many women are wired to cry more (the minority use it as a tactic to turn on the waterworks.

Smacking people on the arse is wrong in the OP's context but there are of course scenarios where it is acceptable.

The fact that this video has gone viral only highlights the difference in social standing that women still have v men. If a man was smacked it would not get any interest.

Of course it wouldn't get any interest, that's why the media doesn't run 'woman slapped man's arse' stories, people either wouldn't care or they'd laugh.

I'd say I'd like to see balanced reporting but that's simply never going to happen and I extend that to all facets of the media.

HappyAsLarE

You’d swear he fingered her

gormdubhgorm

glasso wrote: »

beyond doubt this was bang out of order but the guy's life is going to be really fooked now with the whole "virality" aspect of this. probably doesn't deserve the level of impact that it is going to have.

I would agree as others have said that if it was a male reporter in the race who had his ass slapped by a woman then there would be no story.

gormdubhgorm

Raconteuse wrote: »

Ah you know what I mean. She's giving ammunition now to the "women are the worst" crowd. She's being a fecking dope.

Ah now I think the masked slipped a bit for you there you have a 'side'.
Which means contrary to your other post, that it is in fact steeped in gender politics.
I am glad you agree the sensationalism of the whole thing affects the larger perception of the issue though.

Huntergonzo

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't give a hoot about seeming less feminist. I don't identify as a feminist at all actually. More a humanist.

Of course there is a double standard when it comes to men or women being groped - it would be delusional to suggest otherwise. What bugged us though was the way people leaped in to talk in an accusatory tone about that when it was about this one incident. And then the making up that we are all ok with men being groped. And the ridiculing of this incident because men get groped too. Etc. It's tiresome.

I agree with a lot of that, and while I'm not saying that people think it's ok to grope anybody, it's just not as frowned upon when a woman does it to a man as it is the other way around. You may disagree with that point and that's fair enough, but it's what I see.

Anyway, my main issue is and always will be the barrage of 'bad male behaviour' stories in the media. I think we're an easy target, no wonder the suicide rate is so high among men, nothing but incessant stories about how horrible we all are.