Ian Bailey being extradited to France

puppieperson1

This is soo wrong and full of corruption in the GS they are covering up one of their own all the locals know the real story its horrific what this man has endured.

Padre_Pio

tibruit wrote: »

Apart from the messing around by gardai that probably in the end convinced the DPP to not proceed with a prosecution, it is surprising how people seem to have forgotten so many of the facts surrounding this case. Marie Farrell has retracted her initial testimony and so anything she might have to say would be now tainted.

All this has made him the number 1 suspect, but there's nothing that proves beyond reasonable doubt that he did it.

tibruit

puppieperson1 wrote: »

This is soo wrong and full of corruption in the GS they are covering up one of their own all the locals know the real story its horrific what this man has endured.

You tell `em Gemma.

mynamejeff

puppieperson1 wrote: »

This is soo wrong and full of corruption in the GS they are covering up one of their own all the locals know the real story its horrific what this man has endured.

must be different locals than the ALL the ones i know ,


knowing something and proving something are very different things

Thespoofer

puppieperson1 wrote: »

This is soo wrong and full of corruption in the GS they are covering up one of their own all the locals know the real story its horrific what this man has endured.

I'm not a local so come on spill the beans...

Dia_Anseo

Anyone that thinks Ian Bailey is an innocent man like my post. This is a more thorough investigation than the French are doing.

I'll then send on the results to the French and they can act accordingly.

JMMCapital

Gemma is some nutter, she’s like the Irish version of Alex Jones except female.

Muahahaha

Interesting to note that the other day it was in the news about the CEO of Nissan-Renault escaping house arrest in Japan and turning up in Lebannon. There is now an Interpol arrest order our for him. He has a French passport and a French foreign ministry official was asked what they would do if he shows up in France. The answer was 'nothing, because France never extradites its own citizens'.

Rows Grower

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/baileys-extradition-hearing-over-sophie-murder-set-for-may-38988051.html

JustAThought

Rows Grower wrote: »

https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/baileys-extradition-hearing-over-sophie-murder-set-for-may-38988051.html

third time lucky say the french - will watch with interest.Free legal aid is keeping those boyos in the supreme court busy these weeks -
between O Dywer and Bailey they’re been earning their profittorolls and foie gras sandwiches. Seems a difficult job to be a woman in Ireland these days -no matter how you are terrorised and murdered its the convicted murderers rights that take priority.I think the french have the right approach -trial -even if he is allowed not to turn up, conviction, sentence and then bang up for life.They look after their citizens and murdered women -unlike here. Wheres Larry nowadays?

Rows Grower

JustAThought wrote: »

third time lucky say the french - will watch with interest.Free legal aid is keeping those boyos in the supreme court busy these weeks -
between O Dywer and Bailey they’re been earning their profittorolls and foie gras sandwiches. Seems a difficult job to be a woman in Ireland these days -no matter how you are terrorised and murdered its the convicted murderers rights that take priority.I think the french have the right approach -trial -even if he is allowed not to turn up, conviction, sentence and then bang up for life.They look after their citizens and murdered women -unlike here. Wheres Larry nowadays?

Yeah, sounds like a great system the french have there alright.

Foolproof.

Rows Grower

Rows Grower wrote: »

Yeah, sounds like a great system the french have there alright.

Foolproof.

Sinn Fein are taking notes.

On the evidence, despite the brutal nature of the killing and blood everywhere, not one drop of Baileys blood was found at the scene, under Sophies fingernails etc.

Not one fingerprint. Let that sink in.

Someone else did this and the Gardai covered it up.

White lighting

And i know shes a nutjob but some of the stuff Gemma has said on this case is alarming. Especially the links to the case of a former Garda who she believes should be main suspect.
The French case is a complete joke and should he be extradited it would make a complete mockery of our justice system.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

On the evidence, despite the brutal nature of the killing and blood everywhere, not one drop of Baileys blood was found at the scene, under Sophies fingernails etc.

Not one fingerprint. Let that sink in.

Someone else did this and the Gardai covered it up.

CSI TV programs have a lot to answer for

suicide_circus

If Bailey was an Irishman all this would have gone away a long time ago.

Padre_Pio

Deleted User wrote: »

Sinn Fein are taking notes.

On the evidence, despite the brutal nature of the killing and blood everywhere, not one drop of Baileys blood was found at the scene, under Sophies fingernails etc.

Not one fingerprint. Let that sink in.

Someone else did this and the Gardai covered it up.

Remember, no criminal case has ever been brought by the DPP against Ian Bailey. The DPP has repeatedly said there's not enough evidence against him.

Anything else is pure speculation.

JustAThought wrote: »

.I think the french have the right approach -trial -even if he is allowed not to turn up, conviction, sentence and then bang up for life.They look after their citizens and murdered women -unlike here. Wheres Larry nowadays?

Sure why don't we bring criminal proceedings against JustAThought?

We get a few witnesses that said you did something 20 years ago, not a shred of evidence against you, you're not there to defend yourself, and when you're found guilty a team of French investigators illegally extradite you from your house in Ireland and bang you up in a French prison.

That sounds like justice alright :rolleyes:

suicide_circus

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Remember, no criminal case has ever been brought by the DPP against Ian Bailey. The DPP has repeatedly said there's not enough evidence against him.

Anything else is pure speculation.

its utterly bizarre.

found guilty in france in a show trial
of a crime committed in ireland
despite never being prosecuted in ireland due to lack of evidence
and now ireland is considering extradition to france

lalababa

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

In fairness, just because a guard lets a pubs have late drinks doesnt mean they arent going to treat a brutal murder seriously. The two instances are worlds apart.

Really, taking a bribe, clamping down on one pub rather than another. Tis a slippery slope. They didn't treat the murder seriously as is evidenced in 4 ,read that, 4 seperate inquires into their investigation of which 3 reports were kept quiet while lumps of evidence was 'dissapeared'.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mod note: I'll close this for a wee while while I move it to CA which is a more appropriate forum at this stage.

Buford T. Justice

Mr E

Reopened. CA/IMHO charter applies.

Muahahaha

suicide_circus wrote: »

its utterly bizarre.

found guilty in france in a show trial
of a crime committed in ireland
despite never being prosecuted in ireland due to lack of evidence
and now ireland is considering extradition to france

The cynic in me thinks that Ian Bailey is just a pawn in a larger game of foreign policy between Ireland and France. There has definitely been increased activity between the two countries since Brexit. Just a few things going on right now-

-Ireland have been lobbying France for their vote for us to get a seat on the UN Security Council, something that has been designated as a top priority for the Dept of Foreign Affairs- so much so they threw a party for hundreds of foreign diplomats in New York last year with none other than Bono performing
- Celtic Interconnecter - an undersea electricity cable between Ireland and France. France backed Irelands bid to borrow from the European Investment Bank to fund this. We get cheap finance and France gets to sell us nuclear power. It wasn't expected to be completed till the end of this decade but now it has been now been fast tracked at our request because of worries about the supply of electricity post Brexit.
- Varadkar visits Macron in Paris and less than 48 hours later Leo announces he is sending Irish troops into a war zone in Mali to back up French troops who are trying to put down an insurgency. This is not a peace keeping mission no matter how the Dept of Defence tries to dress it up, lots of French soldiers have lost their lives out there (13 in November just gone) and the French public are tired of seeing bodies coming back. So Leo does him a favour and puts our lads lives on the line instead

So lots of instances of Ireland cosying up to France a lot than normal over the last 2 years. France is also a major powerbroker within the EU so it is not beyond reason to think that French support in the Brexit negotiations helped to ensure that a hard border didnt emerge and the British were faced down. Nor is it unreasonable to think that French diplomats think that Ireland owes them a few favours and that Ian Baileys extradition is one of them.

If it goes ahead it makes an absolute mockery of our justice system. Plus it blows any notion of a separation of powers between the judicary and the executive if political pressure has been allowed to bear on what is strictly a legal matter.

mynamejeff

lalababa wrote: »

Really, taking a bribe, clamping down on one pub rather than another. Tis a slippery slope. They didn't treat the murder seriously as is evidenced in 4 ,read that, 4 seperate inquires into their investigation of which 3 reports were kept quiet while lumps of evidence was 'dissapeared'.

ya not ruthlessly applying the licencing laws to a rural pub is the same as staging a murder and framing a innocent man for it

ffs just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you should just make stuff up

lalababa

mynamejeff wrote: »

ya not ruthlessly applying the licencing laws to a rural pub is the same as staging a murder and framing a innocent man for it

ffs just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you should just make stuff up

What are you on about?

Galwayguy35

Shouldn't it be the Brits job to look out for this guy, he's their citizen let them worry about him.

Just put him on a plane and be done with it.

Galwayguy35

mynamejeff wrote: »

ya not ruthlessly applying the licencing laws to a rural pub is the same as staging a murder and framing a innocent man for it

ffs just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you should just make stuff up

Any proof for any of that?

mynamejeff

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Any proof for any of that?

was responding to the nonsense that lalababa

of course theres no proof for some wild accusation like that

Yurt2

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Shouldn't it be the Brits job to look out for this guy, he's their citizen let them worry about him.

Just put him on a plane and be done with it.

Curiously enough, it is Bailey's status as a British citizen that will offer him the the most concrete protection against extradition due to a kink in the law giving effect to European Arrest Warrants in Irish legislation. The law has been amended since his Supreme Court 2012 case, but it is unlikely that he will be extradited one would think.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ian-bailey-extradition-no-more-likely-in-wake-of-french-conviction-1.3911346

StackSteevens

Breaking - absurd third French request for Ian Bailey's extradition has just been refused by the High Court. Allez les Irlandais!

Muahahaha

The correct result, the arrogance of the French prosecuting in someones absence and then requesting their extradition when they refuse to extradite French nationals themselves is something else.

Id love to know what pull the du Plantier family have with the Elysee Palace. Its really remarkable the lengths the French state went to on this, they wouldnt have done it for an ordinary joe soap

feargale

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Shouldn't it be the Brits job to look out for this guy, he's their citizen let them worry about him.

Just put him on a plane and be done with it.

You seem to have an obsession with Bailey's nationality. Life would be very simple if we could dispense with the rule of law and due procedure and convict or acquit on the basis of where people come from.