One for the legals

cdeb

This thread is hilarious. I hope the OP isn't a troll.

The question must have been answered 10/12 times at this stage, but keep on asking!

Has to be a troll.


They're meeting with the Chief Justice later yet comes to Boards for legal opinion.

easypazz

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

For one thing.... Mr Dwyer is in custody and would be in a prison van escorted by prison officers ergo completely different scenario.

What basis ... Let's say the media person involved is tasked with providing the national media with images from court cases, and a barrister using his/her private vehicle transports the client to and from the court in an effort to avoid being photographed by the media, to me it would be a direct attempt at denying the media person their opportunity to do their job, this my reason for asking .... Is it legal ? Or illegal to transport someone in and out of the courts.

I'm sure people would be up in arms if every person before the courts were shielded from the media.

Theres a hot chick across the road from me. When she gets undressed she closes her curtains denying me a view.

The cheek of her.

ohnonotgmail

easypazz wrote: »

Theres a hot chick across the road from me. When she gets undressed she closes her curtains denying me a view.

The cheek of her.

what is the rest of her like?

cdeb

I went into Burger King last night for a post session feed.

Now my local chipper is suing me saying I'm infringing their right to work.

(May not have happened)

GBX

The OP aint a troll ... but there coming across as somebody who missed out on a photo and are looking for some sort of angle against the barrister who did them wrong by depriving them of the photo op.

Irishphotodesk

GBX wrote: »

The OP aint a troll ... but there coming across as somebody who missed out on a photo and are looking for some sort of angle against the barrister who did them wrong by depriving them of the photo op.

Picture was gotten - also, not looking for any angle to attack the barrister, curious about the legality of the situation, which has been answered multiple times... Not illegal, but not commonplace.

Penn

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

I have no reason to complain a barrister, curious about the actions and if the actions are not illegal why is it not done more often

Probably because the case in question is an extremely high-profile case with far greater media interest and therefore greater protections are required to avoid that, but to start questioning the legality of it is absurd.

One eyed Jack

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Can someone explain to me if it is legal for a barrister to put a client into their car and transport them from the courts, for the express purpose of evading the media ?

Asking for a friend !

My understanding is that it would impact on the members of the media's constitutional right to work and would be illegal

There doesn’t appear to be anything unlawful in the circumstances you’re describing, and doing so in no way impacts on anyone’s right to work. It’s no different than someone covering their face on the way to or from the Courthouse with their jacket so that they can evade the media. It would depend upon the individual circumstances in each particular case if someone were to make a complaint against another person, whether any laws were broken, but from what you’re describing the answer is no, it’s not illegal and nobody appears to have violated any existing laws.

notsoyoungwan

No update with the opinion of the Chief Justice... I wonder why?!

Irishphotodesk

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Or ... I'm curious about if the action was legal or not....and seeking the wisdom of those with legal training.

Why do you care what unqualified morons (as far as you know) think about this?

IrishPhotoDesk, I'm also a pro photographer (albeit haven't worked in courts/news stuff for a long time). Nobody is entitled to an image, nor have a right to one.

In a public place, you can photograph what you want, as you already know. However, a person can also make a reasonable effort to prevent the photo (so long as they don't break other laws in the process).

A solicitor giving someone a lift is not a legal thing. At most, perhaps you could argue it goes against a 'code of ethics' or the firms own policies or something like that, but you'd be grasping at straws and be ignored. The person getting the lift is paying the solicitor, and therefore has a working arrangement with them. No reason they can't travel to and from the court together to discuss the situation and go over things.

Doesn't necessarily have to be an effort to prevent the media getting to them.

endacl

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

I'm sure people would be up in arms if every person before the courts were shielded from the media.

I’m sure the opposite. I’d be interested in the outcome, not the circus.

KWAG2019

An interesting thread for several reasons. Lots of ruffled feathers as it appeared OP was looking for a way to cause trouble for a lawyer. Original query was answered and OP had more detail including meeting with Chief Justice!
It’s conclusive that there is no law against it. But why on earth would a lawyer do it? The best response OP is actually your professional one. Let’s have a photograph of Mr X ( hopefully a suitably serious criminal) in the car being driven in a bus lane by Herbert Von Texasholdempokerface SC. If you could catch them laughing together it would be ideal. “Pictured leaving the 4 Courts yesterday was X the well known NNNNNNN sharing a joke with his brief Herbert Von Texasholdempokerface”. Happy snapping!

hullaballoo

It's Mr Herbert von Texasholdempokerface SC.

You will address him by his proper title, you little bollocks.

KWAG2019

hullaballoo wrote: »

It's Mr Herbert von Texasholdempokerface SC.

You will address him by his proper title, you little bollocks.

Claw Hammer

Frank Dunlop used to turn up for Tribunal hearing in Dublin castle in a chauffeur driven car. The car was provided by his barrister. there was never any issue made of the barrister doing such a thing.

KWAG2019

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Frank Dunlop used to turn up for Tribunal hearing in Dublin castle in a chauffeur driven car. The car was provided by his barrister. there was never any issue made of the barrister doing such a thing.

Was it billable?

Irishphotodesk

Without giving details of the case ... It was back today, Judge remonstrated barrister and case was thrown out, client didn't appear today.

KWAG2019

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Without giving details of the case ... It was back today, Judge remonstrated barrister and case was thrown out, client didn't appear today.

Did the judge reprimand the barrister? For what exactly?

Irishphotodesk

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Did the judge reprimand the barrister? For what exactly?

For behaviour in the courtroom and a legal issue.

ohnonotgmail

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

For behaviour in the courtroom and a legal issue.

so nothing to do with giving somebody a lift?

Irishphotodesk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so nothing to do with giving somebody a lift?

No

ohnonotgmail

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

No

what a shock. i'm surprised the chief justice didnt have a word with the judge

Irishphotodesk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what a shock. i'm surprised the chief justice didnt have a word with the judge

I don’t know what happened after meeting with Chief Justice and wasn’t in court for the case.

Irishphotodesk

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Without giving details of the case ... It was back today, Judge remonstrated barrister and case was thrown out, client didn't appear today.

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

For behaviour in the courtroom and a legal issue.

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

I don’t know what happened after meeting with Chief Justice and wasn’t in court for the case.

Ah here.