Lager Snobbery

Macy0161

Used to drink Bud all the time. I wouldn't criticise anyone for what they chose to drink*, even though I am a beer snob about what I drink.

I'm not a fan of lager at all (craft or commercial). And plenty of other beer styles I'm not into either, like Wheat beers and Saison. I don't like anything nitro'd these days either. Give me a large bottle (from the fridge not the shelf) over a pint of guinness.

*except when it comes to moaning about hangovers - if you're going to drink commercial beers with all the additives, fair enough. Don't complain about the disproportionate hangover because of those additives else I will criticise your choices!

Lewis_Benson

iamtony wrote: »

Why the universal hate for Budweiser? I think it's just part of the lager snobbery. It's not my beer of choice but I'd happily drink it.

It tastes like sugary corn water.

RayCon

Deleted User wrote: »

Reminds me of a lovely "Chinese medicinal chicken" that's cooked in cans. It's a bit different to the picture but I used to buy the can and it would have been sliced in the middle. Take it home and open it into a bowl. Two euro.

What in the name of living fcuk is that !

Tumbleweed2

I'm an ale man myself.

biko

I only drink Budweiser when I have to drive and can't drink beer.

Feisar

Deleted User wrote: »

Budweiser is like a different drink for me. It tastes so different to most beers. Never liked it.

Most of the main brand lagers seem to be fairly homogeneous but yea Bud tastes like chemicals.

Grayditch

Budweiser is truly substandard. Most people drink it because it's all they've ever known.

It's being removed from bars every day and soon it'll be quite a rarity.

KungPao

Grayditch wrote: »

Budweiser is truly substandard. Most people drink it because it's all they've ever known.

It's being removed from bars every day and soon it'll be quite a rarity.

Top notch Christmas ad in the 80s though.

Miller going the same way, getting hard enough to find these days. Used to be alright, practically un drinkable these days, soapy piss.

Church on Tuesday

andekwarhola wrote: »

It's really hard on memory to list every American beer I've managed to try in Ireland and I'm not going to google but start of with the following brewers:

Founders
Sierra Nevada
Brooklyn
Stone
Lagunitas
Odell
Oskar Blues


That's just my off of cuff list based on recent memory. Just go to the nearest decent off license and try stuff out. Like people are at pains to say in this thread, it's not about snobbery, just drink stuff you like whatever it is. Who cares what people drink at the end of the day.

I'll give them a go if I can find them.

cadaliac

Grayditch wrote: »

Budweiser is truly substandard. Most people drink it because it's all they've ever known.

It's being removed from bars every day and soon it'll be quite a rarity.

This.
People like what they are used to. So what....
People want to drink Bud, let them. I personally don't like the taste but I would have no issue drinking one if I had to.
Over in the UK you drink whatever is closest to your norm when at home.
In the States, bottled Bud is quite nice (different I know than here) - but when in Rome and all that.
I think forcing your opinion on someone is just that - forcing.

FixdePitchmark

most craft beer is horrible ****e , a little better now. The lads pouring it down your throat are the same lads who drank absolute piss in college and now tell you how to cook your steak and eat exotic food that is typically horrible too. Squd Ink.

For a while every shed in Ireland was a craft beer , and was rank. The % alcohol in them made these craft dudes even more insufferable with 2 pints in them

Hopefully best hopping to the top.

At the end of the day , craft beer is a way for bars to charge more , you wouldn't mind if this revolution caused a downward pressure on price , but quite the opposite.

The best thing about piss cheap beer , is when you see a craft beer bearded bard coming drink a bud , and the smelly dudes stay clear of you , like kryptonite to them.

Anyway, we have the best two craft houses here before these warriors arrived - Guinness and Smithwicks something wrong with you if you don't drink them anyway.

smelly sock

Budweiser is like having sex in a canoe.

F*****G close to water.

Grayditch

cadaliac wrote: »

I think forcing your opinion on someone is just that - forcing.

And I think people are being soft when they get offended that someone says the drink they drink tastes gash. They're talking about their taste.

There's a mighty difference between someone saying something is piss and someone telling someone else what to drink.

It works both ways, too. People in bars turning their noise up at someone (minding their business) ordering a Raspberry Sundae Ginger Stout or whatever. I've gotten comments over "fancy" Hop House.

HOP HOUSE, ffs.

FixdePitchmark

Grayditch wrote: »

And I think people are being soft when they get offended that someone says the drink they drink tastes gash. They're talking about their taste.

There's a mighty difference between someone saying something is piss and someone telling someone else what to drink.

It works both ways, too. People in bars turning their noise up at someone (minding their business) ordering a Raspberry Sundae Ginger Stout or whatever. I've gotten comments over "fancy" Hop House.

HOP HOUSE, ffs.

in fairness, that does sound a ridiculous drink.
I couldn't say that in public

An old finger point hoping no one spots me would do.

Grayditch

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

in fairness, that does sound a ridiculous drink.

Of course it does. Rasberry goes with Vanilla, Vanilla goes with Ginger, but Rasberry and ginger is just acting the maggot...

Captain Flaps

Incidentally Brewdog have just opened down on the quays, I've been to their Edinburgh place a few times and it's always lovely, Punk would be my tipple of choice if it's on tap here and the cans are always delicious. They've a good ethos and pay a living wage, worth supporting.

Reviews and Books Galore

I do look down on people who drink craft beers exclusively. It's like eating sushi everyday. Kinda classist and just not a good way to enjoy beer as you need the normality to enjoy the oddness imo.

andekwarhola

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Incidentally Brewdog have just opened down on the quays, I've been to their Edinburgh place a few times and it's always lovely, Punk would be my tipple of choice if it's on tap here and the cans are always delicious. They've a good ethos and pay a living wage, worth supporting.

€7.25 is pretty eye-watering for a pint of Punk though. That said, it's easier for that type of bar to go north with pricing when general pub prices in town are so high to start with.

andekwarhola

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

At the end of the day , craft beer is a way for bars to charge more

This kind of rigorous analysis is wasted in here as opposed to a thesis or newspaper article.

Grayditch

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I do look down on people who drink craft beers exclusively. It's like eating sushi everyday. Kinda classist and just not a good way to enjoy beer as you need the normality to enjoy the oddness imo.

Pfffft. You could be dead tomorrow.

bnt

I have to agree with the assertion that the mass market American lagers are Pißwasser - like the brand advertised in GTA - and even the Americans have started to get this. When I've visited friends in the USA in recent years, I've had no trouble finding much better options. They're in Texas, so Shiner Bock is a good one to start with.

One annoyance about Lager snobbery is folks thinking they shouldn't drink Lager at all, which is kind-of missing the point. There are too many damn IPAs on the market now, and most of the ones I've tried taste like they ran away from the brewery before they grew up. I don't like my beer to taste green, thanks!

StupidLikeAFox

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

I do look down on people who drink craft beers exclusively. It's like eating sushi everyday. Kinda classist and just not a good way to enjoy beer as you need the normality to enjoy the oddness imo.

It is like eating sushi but not in the way you are outlining here. i.e. if you occassionally eat sushi then surely you would eat the sushi you like best. You seem to be advocating that you occassionally eat bad sushi so you can enjoy the good sushi more?

Captain Flaps

andekwarhola wrote: »

€7.25 is pretty eye-watering for a pint of Punk though. That said, it's easier for that type of bar to go north with pricing when general pub prices in town are so high to start with.

Is that what they're charging? Would surprise me since most places only have a minimal surcharge vs a pint of Heineken, for example.

andekwarhola

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Is that what they're charging? Would surprise me since most places only have a minimal surcharge vs a pint of Heineken, for example.

That's definitely the price.

Ipso

bnt wrote: »

I have to agree with the assertion that the mass market American lagers are Pißwasser - like the brand advertised in GTA - and even the Americans have started to get this. When I've visited friends in the USA in recent years, I've had no trouble finding much better options. They're in Texas, so Shiner Bock is a good one to start with.

One annoyance about Lager snobbery is folks thinking they shouldn't drink Lager at all, which is kind-of missing the point. There are too many damn IPAs on the market now, and most of the ones I've tried taste like they ran away from the brewery before they grew up. I don't like my beer to taste green, thanks!

The trend these days for IPAs is for the fruity flavour from hops. The longer they sit around, even before bottling, the flavour fades. IPAs can go from grain to glass in a couple weeks, lagers take mich longer so it’s not as profitable to brew lagers. Given the trend for loadsa hops these days, any brewing flaws can be hidden by all the hops. Brewing flaws are more noticeable in lagers, more skill is required.

Scott Tenorman

Grayditch wrote: »

Budweiser is truly substandard. Most people drink it because it's all they've ever known.

It's being removed from bars every day and soon it'll be quite a rarity.

Just being rebadged as Rockshore and people will carry on drinking as before....

rossie1977

Budweiser is fine for a drinking session if you are getting 24 bottles for 13-15 Euro or something, same with the other brands like Miller, Corrs, Carlsberg, Heineken.

I would never spend 5-6 euro in a pub for a pint of any of them though.

saabsaab

Antbody drinking Harp Draught ?

bmc58

saabsaab wrote: »

Antbody drinking Harp Draught ?

Harp has had it's day.

Grandeeod

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

Just being rebadged as Rockshore and people will carry on drinking as before....

That's bollox! While Rockshore isn't exactly classy stuff, it's far superior to Budweiser, not that Bud is as bad as many here make out.

We've come a long way from the Guinness. Smithwicks and Harp pumps and now we are going many different ways and lager snobbery is alive and well if this thread is anything to go by.

andekwarhola

saabsaab wrote: »

Antbody drinking Harp Draught ?

Can you actually get draught harp in the south anymore?

andekwarhola

Should bring back this as a retro hipster release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10k2UKsc8Y

simongurnick

smelly sock wrote: »

No.

Heinekens , Carlsbergs Coors etc have been brewing for hundreds of years. They are the biggest selling beers in the world. They must be doing something right.

And you dont sound like a twat ordering it.

A pint of plumbers precum.

I have drank Moosehead before. Is that a craft beer?

No. Moosehead isnt craft

saabsaab

saabsaab wrote: »

Antbody drinking Harp Draught ?

I adore a draught Harp when I’m over the border. Some refreshing twang off it.

simongurnick

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'll give them a go if I can find them.

Sierra nevada is tasty

Zaph

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'll give them a go if I can find them.

Tesco stock Brooklyn Lager. It's a pretty good beer.

Ipso

Is Sam Adams Boston Lager available in Ireland?

andekwarhola

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I'll give them a go if I can find them.

Tesco would have IPA by Founders, Sierra Neveda and Lagunitas. You'd get more stuff by those brewers in off licences that do craft beer.

Ipso

Be careful with hoppy beers. The hops fade after a few months, especially Lagunitas beers. They will tase much sweeter than when they are fresh.

saabsaab

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I adore a draught Harp when I’m over the border. Some refreshing twang off it.

I've heard it's in some places South but I've never come across it in pubs recently, all Heino and Carlsb

bmc58

andekwarhola wrote: »

Should bring back this as a retro hipster release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10k2UKsc8Y

Bass was a pretty good drink.

adocholiday

I think there's a drink for certain scenarios. I love beer, every type. I love a double hopped grapefruit infused pale ale, a 10% imperial stout, a German weissbier, a Belgian tripel, but all when I'm having 3 or 4 beers at home. If I'm out with the lads I'll have a Guinness or a Smithwicks or a Heineken. It's not about snobbery, it's drinking what you like at a given time!

piplip87

saabsaab wrote: »

I've heard it's in some places South but I've never come across it in pubs recently, all Heino and Carlsb

Dundalk is your only spot in the south majority of pins have it on tap

Strumms

simongurnick wrote: »

Sierra nevada is tasty

It’s delicious, fûcking delicious, tasty and refreshing. I’ve never seen it in a pint bottle or on draught though here anyway, in England yes.



Anyone seen or tried this ^^^. I haven’t but I’m imagining it could be delicious.

Macy0161

Grandeeod wrote: »

That's bollox! While Rockshore isn't exactly classy stuff, it's far superior to Budweiser, not that Bud is as bad as many here make out.

We've come a long way from the Guinness. Smithwicks and Harp pumps and now we are going many different ways and lager snobbery is alive and well if this thread is anything to go by.

Rockshore and Hop House 13 are mainly about diageo avoiding having to pay bud licencing fees.

smelly sock

Strumms wrote: »

It’s delicious, fûcking delicious, tasty and refreshing. I’ve never seen it in a pint bottle or on draught though here anyway, in England yes.



Anyone seen or tried this ^^^. I haven’t but I’m imagining it could be delicious.

Nah. If i want orange ill have a fanta.

Reminds me of that blue moon ****e. Utter horse ****e.

Ipso

Strumms wrote: »

It’s delicious, fûcking delicious, tasty and refreshing. I’ve never seen it in a pint bottle or on draught though here anyway, in England yes.



Anyone seen or tried this ^^^. I haven’t but I’m imagining it could be delicious.

It was ok. They changed the recipe, made it stronger and more orangey. Not mad about beers with fruit added, too much and its too fruity not enough and what’s the point.

Grayditch

The Thomas House on Thomas Street has Harp on tap.

furiousox

Peroni is a lovely brew, tried Moretti recently and that is delicious too, very smooth.

Zaph

Strumms wrote: »

Anyone seen or tried this ^^^. I haven’t but I’m imagining it could be delicious.

Big fan of the regular Sierra Nevada pale ale, but didn't like Sidecar at all. It led me to the conclusion that orange and beer don't mix.