Gambling adverts

tayto lover

I like a little bet myself, the emphasis on little though.
Having listened to recent radio discussions on the addiction of gambling and how it effects families I think I’d be in favour of banning gambling adverts on all media outlets.
There were three adverts on one tv break on Sky Sports just now.

It is a very secret addiction in that there are very few telltale signs and a gambler with the habit doesn’t even have to leave his armchair if he has funds and an account.
The numbers seeking help are reported to be higher than any of the other addictions at the moment.

Would banning gambling advertising help?

pinkyeye

Absolutely should be banned. Don't know if anyone has ever seen the likes of Channel 5 late at night, it's basically a running roulette wheel encouraging you to ring in every two minutes. Madness.

BumperD

It’s a largely unregulated industry. The advertising will eventually be severely curbed or just banned.

dd973

The ads are so s**t, irritating and tacky they actually put me off signing up for any of those websites. The CEO of Bet365, Denise Coates paid herself £265m last year and £325m this year, what's she planning to do with it all, take it to the hereafter?

whippet

dd973 wrote: »

The ads are so s**t, irritating and tacky they actually put me off signing up for any of those websites. The CEO of Bet365, Denise Coates paid herself £265m last year and £325m this year, what's she planning to do with it all, take it to the hereafter?

just goes to show how many mugs are out there feeding the profits of the gaming companies.

Bookies are not it in to loose money.

Gambling is like a tax on the vulnerable ..much like the lotto. I'd love to see some research in what the demographics of lotto players are.

tayto lover

whippet wrote: »

just goes to show how many mugs are out there feeding the profits of the gaming companies.

Bookies are not it in to loose money.

Gambling is like a tax on the vulnerable ..much like the lotto. I'd love to see some research in what the demographics of lotto players are.

My father used to say “ you never see a bookie on a bicycle “. Meaning that they don’t lose overall but go on to make huge profits unlike the poor punters.

Millicently

Advertising for gambling should be banned. It's as toxic to people as any alcohol or drug addiction. It destroys lives and the emphasis should be on steering people away from gambling not making it attractive.

frag420

tayto lover wrote: »

My father used to say “ you never see a bookie on a bicycle “. Meaning that they don’t lose overall but go on to make huge profits unlike the poor punters.

And you never see a bookies with a carpark either...meaning that habitual gamblers are either on foot or bike!

tayto lover

frag420 wrote: »

And you never see a bookies with a carpark either...meaning that habitual gamblers are either on foot or bike!

When you see the wages paid out to CEO’s of betting firms then the old adage comes to mind “ a fool and his money are easily parted “.
No wonder they can afford so many tv adverts. Huge profits and huge damage done to families.

greencap

dd973 wrote: »

The ads are so s**t, irritating and tacky they actually put me off signing up for any of those websites. The CEO of Bet365, Denise Coates paid herself £265m last year and £325m this year, what's she planning to do with it all, take it to the hereafter?

Truly awful ads aimed at the... less discerning viewer.

One of them featured the voices of those talentless hacks ant and dec.

Says a lot about all involved.

Wilfuler.

Gambling industrys task is to hoover up people's money

They have no morals . They're like these super fish trawlers , they have to be regulated

Thankfully I have no interest in it

You can only drink and smoke so much, but you can gamble everything you have away..

Wilfuler.

Mourinho pissed me off

As soon as he came back he was advertising for the gambling industry

Boggles

Wilfuler. wrote: »

Mourinho pissed me off

As soon as he came back he was advertising for the gambling industry

It's not just José you know.

Just three Premier League football clubs will begin the 2019/20 season without a partnership with a betting brand.

As the new football season opens this weekend, only Brighton & Hove Albion, Sheffield United and Southampton FC have no betting partnerships. Meanwhile, half of the clubs in the Premier League and 17 out of 24 clubs in the EFL Championship feature a betting brand as a shirt sponsor this season.

Top clubs such as Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal also boast official partnerships with betting brands off the pitch. Leicester City and Newcastle United tie for the most the most partnerships, with the former listing Bet365, Betway and W88.com as “valued club partners” and the Magpies boasting partnerships with Bet365 and MansionBet, as well as a shirt sponsorship with Fun88.

Wilfuler.

Boggles wrote: »

It's not just José you know.

So, doesn't make it right

Roger_007

Isn’t it curious how governments not only refuse to acknowledge the harm that gambling does but positively encourage it. They encourage or actively manage state lotteries and they actually subsidise horse and greyhound racing which are just vehicles for gambling.
Bans on advertising are widespread for activities and products that are deemed to be harmful like alcohol and tobacco but gambling gets off scot free.
Can anyone explain?

Boggles

Wilfuler. wrote: »

So, doesn't make it right

I never suggest it did. You singled him out.

But you can't be píssed off at just him. I imagine if you support a English team chances are they have a betting partner or sponsor.

Wilfuler.

They're after young working people's money with all this bullsh1te advertising

I was listening to a paper owner on lbc from the same area where bet365 is based defending them because of the jobs they create, no doubt they advertise with them

irishproduce

Gambling companies and their ads, their days are numbered. That is for sure.

Titzon Toast

Did anyone hear the radio ad on Nova that's been playing recently? It's horrendous.

FGR

Why aren't online winnings taxed in this country?

Is it to incentivise companies to remain based in Ireland and gain taxes via their bricks and mortar shops?

Genuine question as I would have thought hitting that would be far easier for the gov than say, carbon tax.

Also - fully agree about banning adverts promoting gambling.

Healio

FGR wrote: »

Why aren't online winnings taxed in this country?

You would have to be allowed write off losses.

As per thread trend, nobody is winning, ergo no benefit to government. As losers can argue, they should be allowed write off losses against tax, if they get taxed on winings.

Healio

Healio wrote: »

You would have to be allowed write off losses.

As per thread trend, nobody is winning, ergo no benefit to government. As losers can argue, they should be allowed write off losses against tax, if they get taxed on winings.

As previously in thread alluded to they provide jobs in the country, and also absorb a turnover tax (2%), which was doubled in last years budget.

The move which killed the majority of independent (local employer) bookmakers, and a lot of on-course operator (not multi-national).

Healio

Back on topic, of sorts. We should absolutely follow the UK in this initiative:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/01/gambling-advert-ban-takes-effect-from-start-of-ashes

LoughNeagh2017

I was an addict for 5 years but I haven't gambled in 1 year 9 months. I originally started just to try it out and I gained around £1000, I thought that I should try to save for a holiday abroad with gambling but with the money I lost I could have had 5 holidays to Australia in that time. My best memory is when France were playing Albania in Euro 2016, I needed at least 2 goals in the game, it was 0-0 at the 89th minute, I was heartbroken, France scored and I didn't care because I knew it was over. Something magical then happened, it was the 96th minute and I saw the net ripple, France had scored again and I was in ecstasy running around the living room screaming, I remember looking in the mirror and thinking to myself that I have never felt such pleasure before. I think I only profited £50 but it was experiencing the rollercoaster of emotions that caused the pleasure, having lost something and winning it back with 2 late goals. Another great memory was the 2017 superbowl, the comeback that had me on my knees.

A painful memory that stands out was a basketball game, I needed the team to score under a specific number of points, the team ended up under it and I was cheering but then I realised that the game was a tie and was going to overtime which meant my bet was sure to lose. I punched the sofa and shook my computer.

Most of my betting was doing over 0.5 goals on soccer, betting £100-200 on at least 1 goal to be scored, this caused a lot of pain as nil nil results were very common. It also caused raw pleasure when a team scored late and the little soccer ball symbol popped up, I loved seeing those symbols. Sometimes the ball appeared on screen and I was jumping around the room screaming, when I sat down again I noticed that the symbol had disappeared, the goal had been disallowed, this caused be indescribable anger. It also annoyed me when bets won too early, 2 goals early on, I preferred it when I was close to losing and goals were scored in second half.

I did a lot of GAA betting and lost £400 when Donegal beat Dublin in 2014 semi final. I also bet against my own county some times, my relatives had gathered to watch Mayo v Derry in 2017, I was supporting Mayo due to having £200 on them, Derry were playing very well which angered me as they are usually terrible. Mayo scored a goal to give them a small lead and I had fireworks going off in my mind but I had to hide my joy. Derry scored a goal right after which devastated me, it ended a draw but Mayo won in extra time which rubbed salt in my wounds. I went to my bedroom and punched things and cried.

Gambling was the centre point of my life for 5 years and I think I am lost without it because i know i will never feel that pleasure again no matter what i do in the future. On many occasions i bought things with winnings and a month later had to sell them just so i could pay my car insurance and credit card minimum payments, I was always at the post office with parcels. I took out payday loans and gambled them, i went on a Debt Management Plan with Stepchange and when I finished it i celebrated by taking out more loans and lost them, I then had to go on another DMP. My life was more eventful than a soap opera.

Mysterypunter

Gambling threads always descend into "I lost my bollox, went back in with borrowed money, did it in, got the electric cut off, got evicted, went to gamblers anonymous, they are great" type stories. What about I did a tenner accum, got 80 quid, bought an ice cream and a pair of shoes. Or did a tenner accum, one of them lost, pity, could have got an ice cream and a pair of shoes. People always want to blame others, but betting shops will always be there, and even if they close down, online gambling is here to stay. If Heroin was advertised, would it make you go get it? No personal responsibility any more, in this case its the fault of the big bad bookie.

ChikiChiki

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Gambling threads always descend into "I lost my bollox, went back in with borrowed money, did it in, got the electric cut off, got evicted, went to gamblers anonymous, they are great" type stories. What about I did a tenner accum, got 80 quid, bought an ice cream and a pair of shoes. Or did a tenner accum, one of them lost, pity, could have got an ice cream and a pair of shoes. People always want to blame others, but betting shops will always be there, and even if they close down, online gambling is here to stay. If Heroin was advertised, would it make you go get it? No personal responsibility any more, in this case its the fault of the big bad bookie.

I'm not a gambler but that's an ignorant post. You clearly have little understanding of human nature.

Bookies and the gaming are vultures that prey on the weak and vulnerable.

IAMAMORON

I am a punter and i cannot stand them. I hate the concept of enticing people to gamble this way.

Dont ban the adds , but they should have an alternative tax scheme for them. The way the companies are set up fiscally it would be a sure way of getting a decent tax return from them.

kildare lad

I had a gambling problem for about 4 years. Gambling is one of the worst feelings in the world , having everything you've worked hard for gone in no time. Do I blame advertisement/casinos or bookies , no , i blame myself for being an idiot for doing it. Drugs have little or no advertisement and they're a massive problem.

Fr_Dougal

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Gambling threads always descend into "I lost my bollox, went back in with borrowed money, did it in, got the electric cut off, got evicted, went to gamblers anonymous, they are great" type stories. What about I did a tenner accum, got 80 quid, bought an ice cream and a pair of shoes. Or did a tenner accum, one of them lost, pity, could have got an ice cream and a pair of shoes. People always want to blame others, but betting shops will always be there, and even if they close down, online gambling is here to stay. If Heroin was advertised, would it make you go get it? No personal responsibility any more, in this case its the fault of the big bad bookie.

If heroin was advertised on the tv, sponsored a lot of the major football teams, had shops on every corner of every town in the country, you can be damn sure that a hell of a lot of people who would never have considered it before would give it a try.

Fr Tod Umptious

People have said that these gambling ads are tacky, do you know why they are tacky ?

To appeal to children.

Take a look at at Ladbrokes current one with a giant in it, who does a giant appeal to only kids.

They had a previous one with Jay from The Inbetweeners dressed up in a robot costume, again who likes robots, kids obviously.

So kids especially boys like these things and at a certain age they also start to like sports, and by the time they are teenagers and getting into adulthood the sport and gambling become one.

Plant the idea early, and reape the rewards later.