Asian brown cloud in Donegal

https://amp.breakingnews.ie/ireland/solid-fuel-burning-to-blame-as-letterkenny-has-higher-levels-of-air-pollution-than-new-delhi-971995.html

Anyone up there? How is this Even possible?

Asian brown cloud:. https://www.google.com/search?q=asian+brown+cloud&oq=asian+brown+cloud&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2j69i61l2.4810j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

L1011

Anywhere off the gas network / only recently connected to it has awful air quality. Donegal probably has a higher % of diesel (rather than kerosene) home heating also

suicide_circus

yesterdays beef and black bean sauce followed by a feed of stout will also produce the asian brown cloud

Tea drinker

Solid fuels not too bad, depending the fuel of course. It's the idiots burning mountains of plastic ruinng the quality.
I got the binoculars out the other day thinking there had been an accident up the road, load of heavy smoke.... was just someone burning garbage... a pillar of thick black/blue smoke rising from their chimney over the area.

ednwireland

not normally a problem as theres usually at least a breeze up here, but if you get a few still nights it can be bad in certain areas especially housing estates

switched my heating from diesel this year (new boiler) and regretting the increased heating bills already

lots of timber to burn tough as i had a few trees cut round the house !

Harry Palmr

Cold dead air plus carbon equals bad air.

Thelonious Monk

What's the point in doing anything in Ireland when india and china are polluting so much, etc.?

Tea drinker

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What's the point in doing anything in Ireland when india and china are polluting so much, etc.?

If you are breathing toxic fumes from your idiot neighbours then there's a point to doing something

tayto lover

Is this for real or just a Green agenda?
Letterkennt worse than New Delhi???

strandroad

tayto lover wrote: »

Is this for real or just a Green agenda?
Letter Kenny worse than New Delhi???

It's possible. If there is no wind all the smoke and fumes from fires and stoves stay put and accumulate.

Where I live gas heating is the norm but there is definitely a cloud of smoke in the air on days when the temperature drops enough for the neighbours to start their fires.

NSAman

tayto lover wrote: »

Is this for real or just a Green agenda?
Letter Kenny worse than New Delhi???

yep not a decent Indian anywhere,,,, and a decent green curry wouldn’t go amiss... as for the air pollution... think climate change, think what laws they want to pass, think the most horrible statistic you can make and make it fit the agenda.

benjamin d

tayto lover wrote: »

Is this for real or just a Green agenda?
Letter Kenny worse than New Delhi???

It's the same as all the tabloids saying "Ireland hotter than Barcelona" and the likes when we get a bit of good weather. It means at one particular moment in time Letterkenny was worse than New Delhi was at that same time; I'm sure over a year or lifetime you're much safer in rural ireland than an Indian city or anywhere in the developing world.
Not to take away from the serious issue of air pollution here but it's a sensational headline for the papers.

lawred2

It's still probably a statement of fact that as a nation we burn too much solid fuel..

Cold dead evening with smoky girls being burned can be horrible

LoughNeagh2017

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colm_mcm

lawred2 wrote: »

It's still probably a statement of fact that as a nation we burn too much solid fuel..

Cold dead evening with smoky girls being burned can be horrible

We have our semi state Bord na Móna to thank for destroying the peatlands and marketing it to the nation.

Thelonious Monk

Tea drinker wrote: »

If you are breathing toxic fumes from your idiot neighbours then there's a point to doing something

Whoosh

Victor

lawred2 wrote: »

Cold dead evening with smoky girls being burned can be horrible

Smoky fuels?

Topgear on Dave

Victor wrote: »

Smoky fuels?

No, smokey girls, it's a Donegal thing.:cool:

HeidiHeidi

colm_mcm wrote: »

We have our semi state Bord na Móna to thank for destroying the peatlands and marketing it to the nation.

I can't believe they're still advertising peat briquettes as fuel, or that they're still allowed to (whatever about selling them)

Still waters

Tea drinker wrote: »

If you are breathing toxic fumes from your idiot neighbours then there's a point to doing something

Have you a readily available cheaper version of heating for people with houses that are solid fuel heated, other than readily abundant turf/timber available from the locality

Tea drinker

Still waters wrote: »

Have you a readily available cheaper version of heating for people with houses that are solid fuel heated, other than readily abundant turf/timber available from the locality

A good wood burning stove isn't a big issue, it's when morons think they can burn all sorts of noxious plastics along with it that's the problem.

s7ryf3925pivug

Tea drinker wrote: »

Solid fuels not too bad, depending the fuel of course. It's the idiots burning mountains of plastic ruinng the quality.
I got the binoculars out the other day thinking there had been an accident up the road, load of heavy smoke.... was just someone burning garbage... a pillar of thick black/blue smoke rising from their chimney over the area.

Burning plastic is obviously very bad, but it doesn't contribute to pm2.5 in the way that coal and damp solid fuel does, so it is not that relevant here.

Coal, improperly dried firewood and turf produce loads of it. The problem is bigger than is reported because there are bot enough monitoring stations in bad spots for it.

RobbingBandit

Industrial revolution finally arrives in the north whest

Rufeo

I thought this story was about the amount of Asians in letterkenny.

_Brian

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What's the point in doing anything in Ireland when india and china are polluting so much, etc.?

Yes these are large countries.

But, they are essentially third world countries, people in first world countries blaming poor unfortunates in third world countries as a means of justifying doing nothing is pretty pathetic.

Developed nations have a responsibility to double down on climate issues, most of the third world countries are so backward because of the way they have been treated by developed nations, including a few decades of “recyclables” that we dumped on them that can’t really be recycled.

Victor

Caleb Clean Storm wrote: »

Burning plastic is obviously very bad, but it doesn't contribute to pm2.5 in the way that coal and damp solid fuel does, so it is not that relevant here.

While burning plastic may not contribute to hugely to visible smoke, it can produce a lot of nasty chemicals.

s7ryf3925pivug

Victor wrote: »

While burning plastic may not contribute to hugely to visible smoke, it can produce a lot of nasty chemicals.

Yes of course. But the levels that were being reported on were pm2.5 and pm10. That's caused by coal, damp firewood and turf mainly

Thelonious Monk

_Brian wrote: »

Yes these are large countries.

But, they are essentially third world countries, people in first world countries blaming poor unfortunates in third world countries as a means of justifying doing nothing is pretty pathetic.

Developed nations have a responsibility to double down on climate issues, most of the third world countries are so backward because of the way they have been treated by developed nations, including a few decades of “recyclables” that we dumped on them that can’t really be recycled.

I was being sarcastic Brian. Usually Irish people say everything is grand here and nothing we do will make a difference, when India and China are doing so much damage.

Where’s the Backwards Man when you need him?