Cheltenham 2020

yaboya1

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Annie Power?

Oh yeah

In fairness though, his reason for not entering her beforehand was because the same trainer/owner combination had the defending champ who was a short price to follow up.

posturingpat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Who is this years Espoir Dallene and this years Al Boum Photo?
Horses everyone knows are good horses, horses in the betting but not in the conversation....
Horses who could shock us all....

Couer Sublime and Monalee!

THEY JUST WIN!

Couer sublime might place in the county.

Pogue eile

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

This place is an absolute loony bin.

Unfortunately I think it's just the nature of the game, all the decent horse racing forums have disappeared over the years simply because its such a divisive sport that's predominantly based on opinions and for some reason most of the top fans are shall we say bullish!

MaxBet

Earendil wrote: »

Don't start being a tool will ye. We've already heaps of them on the Horse Racing board.

Won’t reply to this here and drag it up again so I sent you a pm ok

BumperD

Andrew00 wrote: »

Have ye booked the week of work yet folks

I have it booked off for the rest of my life no chance me ever working that week again if I can help it. Last time I tried to work it was about 10 years ago it was a failure and way too stressful didn’t get a tap done

RivetingRoger

Booked it off soon as chrustmas was over
Priority

Earendil

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Annie Power?

Mon the Roge!

Earendil

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Aramon is a gift.

For the CH?

famagusta

Slattsy wrote:

Been digging into the RSA today. I've come to the conclusion that Champ just wins it.

yaboya1 wrote:

Really liked Allaho's jumping on his debut, but he still managed to get beaten and both himself and Minella Indo have only run in two beginners chases each and are 2nd & 3rd in the betting. I think there could be an upset here. Just need to find the one who's going to do it.

Champ is the one fav that I really want to take on. Dont think he jumps well enough or settles well enough and I'm not convinced he'll fully stay the trip. I actually think 2m5f would suit him a lot better and I'd run him there!

What to take him on with? I think allaho runs here alright, maybe easy game will run too. Either way, after them two and minella indo, the field is pretty weak. I've a few bob on minella indo and allaho already and will tip away on them until the off, I know they're short of experience but they're the classiest horses in the race. Allaho will be closer to 5/1 if he turns up here

Andrew00

Champ probably the worst priced horse of the festival, or one of them anyway

NaiveMelodies

Earendil wrote: »

For the CH?

The one on the Friday imo

yaboya1

Is nobody worried about the trip in the RSA for Allaho? Cut out fairly badly at the end of the Albert Bartlett last year. Maybe he'll be fine with another year under his belt, but at his current price you really don't want question marks like that.

Gavin "shels"

Andrew00 wrote: »

Have ye booked the week of work yet folks

Oh yes.... half days for the first 3 days and off the Friday... Will work at home Tues/Wed so finish up by 12 at the latest... Thursday a group of us go out from work and Friday I'll be perched up on a seat by 12.30!

Morgans

yaboya1 wrote: »

Oh yeah

In fairness though, his reason for not entering her beforehand was because the same trainer/owner combination had the defending champ who was a short price to follow up.

Saldier and Sharjah were/are the owners Champion Hurdle horses until two weeks ago.

Slattsy

Money markets seem to lean JLT for Allaho. I've Allaho backed for the RSA as some will know. Must be question marks whether he stays. I think the RSA is more winnable tbh.

Plasandrunt

yaboya1 wrote: »

Is nobody worried about the trip in the RSA for Allaho? Cut out fairly badly at the end of the Albert Bartlett last year. Maybe he'll be fine with another year under his belt, but at his current price you really don't want question marks like that.

I think he's Marsh bound and Faugheen and Easy game go to the RSA. Willie generally sends his RSA horse to the Flogas beforehand. Al Boum Photo, Belshill,Adrianna Des Mottes, Ballycasey and Boston Bob have all gone down the same route in recent years.

carq

What are peoples thoughts on cash back overturning the form with Notebook ?
i thought with a better jockey it would have won at leopardstown but would rather back him at the prices at cheltenham

The Mig

Andrew00 wrote: »

Have ye booked the week of work yet folks

Finished work March 5th and not back till the 18th. Swung it well

yaboya1

Morgans wrote: »

Saldier and Sharjah were/are the owners Champion Hurdle horses until two weeks ago.

Neither were short priced favs though.

IAMAMORON

carq wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on cash back overturning the form with Notebook ?
i thought with a better jockey it would have won at leopardstown but would rather back him at the prices at cheltenham

I think neither of them covered themselves in glory at last years festival, Notebook tailed off in the Ballymore and Cash Back did not go. No 8 year old winner since Sizing Europe. Cash back can win it, but he has only run 6 times since France in 2017, does he have the experience for an Arkle? To put this in perspective last years Arkle was run 1 second slower than both the Supreme Novice and the Champion Hurdle, albeit over a 100 yards less distance. My point is that they don't jog around.

Itchy Feet was only 5 lengths 3rd in last years Supreme, I would love to see him run here. I also thought Rouge Vif jumped like a buck at Warwick on Saturday. The back stretch at Warwick has five of the most difficult fences in the game, so that is good form. Either of these is running in the Arkle.

Earendil

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

The one on the Friday imo

Ah. Not entered yet.

Morgans

yaboya1 wrote: »

Neither were short priced favs though.

They were the champion hurdle horses and seen and hoped to have better chances, by connections, than Benie des Dieux to win the champion hurdle.

Morgans

Plasandrunt wrote: »

I think he's Marsh bound and Faugheen and Easy game go to the RSA. Willie generally sends his RSA horse to the Flogas beforehand. Al Boum Photo, Belshill,Adrianna Des Mottes, Ballycasey and Boston Bob have all gone down the same route in recent years.

I think there is a greater than 50% chance that Faugheen misses Cheltenham. Especially given WPMs comments after his Leop win. Id go Powers Gold Cup and then Punchestown.

Plasandrunt

Faugheen gets retired at the end of the season, he deserves one more go at Cheltenham

Morgans

Plasandrunt wrote: »

Faugheen gets retired at the end of the season, he deserves one more go at Cheltenham

Email/Phone Willie

IAMAMORON

Morgans wrote: »

I think there is a greater than 50% chance that Faugheen misses Cheltenham. Especially given WPMs comments after his Leop win. Id go Powers Gold Cup and then Punchestown.

Same owner/trainer have Annamix for the Fairyhouse race?

Morgans

I think Faugheen only goes to Cheltenham if WPM thinks he will win. I dont see him jumping quick enough for the Marsh and doesnt stay well enough for the RSA. I dont think he will run on good ground also. I think Willie sees it similarly. "This race [the flogas] was his Gold Cup". Whether Faugheen "deserves" to go to Cheltenham is irrelevant and I dont think will be in connections' minds.

Margate

yaboya1 wrote: »

Is nobody worried about the trip in the RSA for Allaho? Cut out fairly badly at the end of the Albert Bartlett last year. Maybe he'll be fine with another year under his belt, but at his current price you really don't want question marks like that.

allaho was nver a hurdler , a different beast over fences

The Mig

Is Samcro gonna go or what?

BumperD

Defi for champion chase confirmed

Slattsy

Min "just wins" the Ryanair now, doesnt he

Gavin "shels"

4 weeks and 39 mins...

Dr. Bre

As long as frodon doesn’t win. Nothing against the horse but itv creamed themselves when he won

madmoose

Slattsy wrote: »

Min "just wins" the Ryanair now, doesnt he

Be a good race vs A Plus Tard and they have close form lines via Chacun now, Min would have won a supreme and QMCC if no Altior and as we seen last season A Plus Tard won at the track and trip so is proven round there.

Slattsy

madmoose wrote: »

Be a good race vs A Plus Tard and they have close form lines via Chacun now, Min would have won a supreme and QMCC if no Altior and as we seen last season A Plus Tard won at the track and trip so is proven round there.

Its a great looking race on paper. Its between Min and A plus Tard anyway, in my eyes.

wardides

Has anyone heard anything around Farouk D'Alene? On at big prices for the bumper but saw bet365 have pushed to 33s, despite everyone else around 12/14s. Had assumed he would not go but hadn't really heard anything mentioned since. Looked very impressive over Christmas, and I know O'leary couldn't give a sniff about the bumper but he has sent a horse to the bumper the last few years.

IAMAMORON

wardides wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything around Farouk D'Alene? On at big prices for the bumper but saw bet365 have pushed to 33s, despite everyone else around 12/14s. Had assumed he would not go but hadn't really heard anything mentioned since. Looked very impressive over Christmas, and I know O'leary couldn't give a sniff about the bumper but he has sent a horse to the bumper the last few years.

It has as good a chance as any of them. The bumper is a massive lottery as far as I can see. Total pin job.

The mares novice hurdle is worse.

You will hear more shight talk over the next 4 weeks than you will be able to stomach. Watch out for unadulterated waffle such as,

" won't be beaten"
" hacks up by half a furlong ears pricked"
" absolute machine"
" Willie said she is the best he has ever seen"
" I will have one for you next week, PM me"

Any of the above and drink your money instead, you will thank me for it.

lemush

wardides wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything around Farouk D'Alene? On at big prices for the bumper but saw bet365 have pushed to 33s, despite everyone else around 12/14s. Had assumed he would not go but hadn't really heard anything mentioned since. Looked very impressive over Christmas, and I know O'leary couldn't give a sniff about the bumper but he has sent a horse to the bumper the last few years.

Just depends whether he makes the cut for the couple they will run, as you said it's a race they don't like.

lemush

The Mig wrote: »

Is Samcro gonna go or what?

Yes he goes. Arkle most likely.

lemush

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think neither of them covered themselves in glory at last years festival, Notebook tailed off in the Ballymore and Cash Back did not go. No 8 year old winner since Sizing Europe. Cash back can win it, but he has only run 6 times since France in 2017, does he have the experience for an Arkle? To put this in perspective last years Arkle was run 1 second slower than both the Supreme Novice and the Champion Hurdle, albeit over a 100 yards less distance. My point is that they don't jog around.

Itchy Feet was only 5 lengths 3rd in last years Supreme, I would love to see him run here. I also thought Rouge Vif jumped like a buck at Warwick on Saturday. The back stretch at Warwick has five of the most difficult fences in the game, so that is good form. Either of these is running in the Arkle.

How can Cash Back not cover himself in glory when he didn't even run? In terms of experience for the Arkle he has ran over fences three times, no less than any of the last five winners. Western Warhorse won it off one chase run before that.

wardides

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It has as good a chance as any of them. The bumper is a massive lottery as far as I can see. Total pin job.

The mares novice hurdle is worse.

You will hear more shight talk over the next 4 weeks than you will be able to stomach. Watch out for unadulterated waffle such as,

" won't be beaten"
" hacks up by half a furlong ears pricked"
" absolute machine"
" Willie said she is the best he has ever seen"
" I will have one for you next week, PM me"

Any of the above and drink your money instead, you will thank me for it.

Certainly not a lottery but do take on board your point. Find it almost impossible to back something unless track side in a bumper, but had to take a shot at this lad at big prices. All the talk is that he’s a very good strong type, so if he went to bumper I’d expect him to go off single prices.

Big issue now, as you said, it’s preview circuit time so we’re going to hear some ****e spouted over the coming weeks. Good things, plot jobs, the lot.

Dice75

lemush wrote: »

How can Cash Back not cover himself in glory when he didn't even run? In terms of experience for the Arkle he has ran over fences three times, no less than any of the last five winners. Western Warhorse won it off one chase run before that.

Cash Back didn't go as he only had his first run a week before Cheltenham last year through no fault of the horse. Was bought to be a chaser anyway. Hopfully he goes well and the hill suits rather than stifles his chances. Notebook didnt exactly enjoy Cheltenham last year (i know it was over hurdles,distance etc etc)...

Moon Dice

Lads I'm in the US for Gold Cup day. Whats the best way of watching the races?

Brock Turnpike

Moon Dice wrote: »

Lads I'm in the US for Gold Cup day. Whats the best way of watching the races?

Television probably.

Pogue eile

Moon Dice wrote: »

Lads I'm in the US for Gold Cup day. Whats the best way of watching the races?

Loads of cheap/free VPNs and ITV have a live player, I'm in Belgium and it's how I watch every Saturday

Gavin "shels"

Moon Dice wrote: »

Lads I'm in the US for Gold Cup day. Whats the best way of watching the races?

Hola on Google Chrome will do the job. Then use ITV or RTE live streams (probably need to create an account). Failing that... find an Irish pub!

RivetingRoger

Get a RTV subscription and watch it on your phone

stretchaq

Just looking through the stayers hurdle assuming BDD doesn’t run, the field looks very week, if the cap fits not going either,

Summerville boy @ 7 NRNB
Looks to have a great chance was highly impressed with his run behind pp the last day after he led all the way

Penhill @ 10s NRNB
Haven’t heard any reports from WPM and he was far from impressive in Gowran but he’s has lit up Cheltenham twice


Dark horse maybe city island??

lemush

stretchaq wrote: »

Just looking through the stayers hurdle assuming BDD doesn’t run, the field looks very week, if the cap fits not going either,

Summerville boy @ 7 NRNB
Looks to have a great chance was highly impressed with his run behind pp the last day after he led all the way

Penhill @ 10s NRNB
Haven’t heard any reports from WPM and he was far from impressive in Gowran but he’s has lit up Cheltenham twice


Dark horse maybe city island??

Can't have Summerville Boy, got gifted a freebie the last day and absolutely crawled. Bar the jolly and the Fry horse who ran no race it was a field well short of going close in the stayers. Won't place in a truly run 3m hurdle imo esp with a freebie up front v unlikely.

stretchaq

lemush wrote: »

Can't have Summerville Boy, got gifted a freebie the last day and absolutely crawled. Bar the jolly and the Fry horse who ran no race it was a field well short of going close in the stayers. Won't place in a truly run 3m hurdle imo esp with a freebie up front v unlikely.

Good points in fairness a lot of horses in the market won’t run though has to be value there somewhere PP at 8/11 is too short although he is most likely winner