Cheltenham 2020

RivetingRoger

stretchaq wrote: »

Think Defi will struggle over the 2m, think he would win Ryan air, really like cilaos emery in Cc

What???!!!
Struggle over 2m.....

Lads above

stretchaq

Yes struggle!!! Simple really barely beat a 12 year old UDS will get outpaced

stretchaq

Slattsy wrote: »

No chance Min goes CC. I think he looks a near good thing in the Ryanair truth be told.

Agree about min, unless Defi goes Ryanair

lemush

Footpad still holding onto his most over rated horse in training award.

BumperD

lemush wrote: »

Footpad still holding onto his most over rated horse in training award.

Cannot have him either he’s more miss than hit / as predictable as the wife’s mood

ON ZEE BRIDLE

lemush wrote: »

Footpad still holding onto his most over rated horse in training award.

The Jesse Lingard of jump racing

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

No chance Min goes CC. I think he looks a near good thing in the Ryanair truth be told.

Agreed

IAMAMORON

I think Defi Du Seuil is a good thing wherever he goes. Hobbs is very good at minding top horses. The fact remains he has now won several grade 1's and has form lines through a lot of top horses. He keeps turning up and he keeps winning.

Is Le Richebourg back this year and is he as good as he was? This decides on where Defi Du Deuil Runs. I would say without Richebourg he will go for the Queen Mother and I am backing him wherever he goes, he looks hardy by all accounts.

Names Taken and asses kicked in the last 2 years include...

Un De Sceux, Waiting Patiently, Politilogue, Sceua Royal, Janika , Lost in Translation ( twice bitches ) , Reel steel , Vinndication ,Top of the Game , etc etc.

I don't know what the problem is, he will be around 4's or 7/2 where ever he goes. Good luck everyone.

RivetingRoger

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think Defi Du Seuil is a good thing wherever he goes. Hobbs is very good at minding top horses. The fact remains he has now won several grade 1's and has form lines through a lot of top horses. He keeps turning up and he keeps winning.

Is Le Richebourg back this year and is he as good as he was? This decides on where Defi Du Deuil Runs. I would say without Richebourg he will go for the Queen Mother and I am backing him wherever he goes, he looks hardy by all accounts.

Names Taken and asses kicked in the last 2 years include...

Un De Sceux, Waiting Patiently, Politilogue, Sceua Royal, Janika , Lost in Translation ( twice bitches ) , Reel steel , Vinndication ,Top of the Game , etc etc.

I don't know what the problem is, he will be around 4's or 7/2 where ever he goes. Good luck everyone.

100% This
Don't understand the negativity atall
Has been the best and most consistent performer over fences for well over a year now, beating every horse he comes up against.
Where he runs, he wins.

If Defi and Paisley both get to the festival, the double is the bet of the week

ON ZEE BRIDLE

The only banker I can see is Paisley Park, I wouldn't even say Altior is a good thing.Very open looking festival.

Dr. Bre

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

The only banker I can see is Paisley Park, I wouldn't even say Altior is a good thing.Very open looking festival.

Not if apples jade takes paisley on

Slattsy

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Not if apples jade takes paisley on

She's more miss than hit at Cheltenham. I'd much prefer PP.

IAMAMORON

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Not if apples jade takes paisley on

Good luck with that , holy mother of Christ. Get a grip.

realdanbreen

Anywhere -apart from on line-going NRNB at this stage?

BoldReason

There is only 1 place apples jade will run at the festival and that's the mares hurdle.
If they even go that is. I wouldn't be surprised if they kept her away from Cheltenham.

RivetingRoger

Apples Jade shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the market for ANYTHING at Cheltenham

Not with stolen money

BoldReason

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Apples Jade shouldn't be anywhere near the top of the market for ANYTHING at Cheltenham

Not with stolen money

She has a similar chance to winning a race as footpad.
Probably better tbh.

seoirsem

The one I have my eye on is Gardens of Babylon for Joseph O'Brien. Finished up the hill very strongly to finish 3rd in last year's Triumph hurdle before going on to win at Punchestown. Hasn't been given a break and last time out was second at Limerick over Christmas where he ran very well.
Not quoted anywhere in the Champion hurdle betting but I'm interested to see if he rocks up in the County Hurdle over the same C & D of the Triumph and with his current rating of 140 would probably carry 10-13 based on last year's race, He'd probably be a max bet for me.

wardides

BoldReason wrote: »

There is only 1 place apples jade will run at the festival and that's the mares hurdle.
If they even go that is. I wouldn't be surprised if they kept her away from Cheltenham.

Not a hope. If she goes, which O’Leary has said she won’t, she goes stayers. Can’t see them dropping her back down in trip. 3m is the trip.

Wouldn’t surprise me if O’Leary did run her however, and if they do, she has a good chance I think in a race that lacks any depth at all.

Slattsy

seoirsem wrote: »

The one I have my eye on is Gardens of Babylon for Joseph O'Brien. Finished up the hill very strongly to finish 3rd in last year's Triumph hurdle before going on to win at Punchestown. Hasn't been given a break and last time out was second at Limerick over Christmas where he ran very well.
Not quoted anywhere in the Champion hurdle betting but I'm interested to see if he rocks up in the County Hurdle over the same C & D of the Triumph and with his current rating of 140 would probably carry 10-13 based on last year's race, He'd probably be a max bet for me.

I'm waiting for this lad to go up in trip!! Crying out for it.

BoldReason

wardides wrote: »

Not a hope. If she goes, which O’Leary has said she won’t, she goes stayers. Can’t see them dropping her back down in trip. 3m is the trip.

Wouldn’t surprise me if O’Leary did run her however, and if they do, she has a good chance I think in a race that lacks any depth at all.

I'll have a side bet with you if you want €100 to €100. if she goes for stayers you win. Mares I win. Anything else or doesn't go then no bet.

wardides

BoldReason wrote: »

I'll have a side bet with you if you want €100 to €100. if she goes for stayers you win. Mares I win. Anything else or doesn't go then no bet.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/stayers-hurdle-a-tempting-option-for-apples-jade-says-oleary/415983

You sure?

RivetingRoger

BoldReason wrote: »

She has a similar chance to winning a race as footpad.
Probably better tbh.

Footpad is infinitely more likely to win the Ryanair than AJ is to win any race at the festival

abarkie

realdanbreen wrote: »

Anywhere -apart from on line-going NRNB at this stage?

I think Betfred are on Gold Cup, Champ Hurdle, Champion Chase

abarkie

abarkie wrote: »

I think Betfred are on Gold Cup, Champ Hurdle, Champion Chase

Sorry it's the 4 Championship races, so includes the Stayers Hurdle too

Bloke on radio in Paddy's yesterday wittering on about...... "Whatever talk you'll here about Cheltenham and preview
nights etc". Was saying that "Envoi Allen at 5/4 to win any race at Cheltenham" is a cracking/excellent bet. Could
hardly believe the crap he was saying - I don't recall him saying anything about NRNB either. He actually sounded
convinced and only for he works for Paddy's it wouldn't surprise me to have heard him say he was "filling his boots".
His mate didn't disagree with him either.

Don't know who his target market for this drivel was as your average "shop mug" is hardly inclined to those sort of bets.

Don't know what race the horse is going for and even if it was NRNB I wouldn't have a Penny on.

Wouldn't be surprised if someone had a word with him over his rancid bullishness. Wouldn't surprise me either if he was
told to spout that crap. Pretty sure he said 5/4....... Madness.

lemush

Deleted User wrote: »

Bloke on radio in Paddy's yesterday wittering on about...... "Whatever talk you'll here about Cheltenham and preview
nights etc". Was saying that "Envoi Allen at 5/4 to win any race at Cheltenham" is a cracking/excellent bet. Could
hardly believe the crap he was saying - I don't recall him saying anything about NRNB either. He actually sounded
convinced and only for he works for Paddy's it wouldn't surprise me to have heard him say he was "filling his boots".
His mate didn't disagree with him either.

Don't know who his target market for this drivel was as your average "shop mug" is hardly inclined to those sort of bets.

Don't know what race the horse is going for and even if it was NRNB I wouldn't have a Penny on.

Wouldn't be surprised if someone had a word with him over his rancid bullishness. Wouldn't surprise me either if he was
told to spout that crap. Pretty sure he said 5/4....... Madness.

Had the misfortune of having to walk into one of their shops the last day to check a price and the two morons talking ****e loudly through the speakers was the one thing I noticed.
Bookies are horrible rancid places these days, can't see how anyone could spend more than five minutes in them.

BumperD

lemush wrote: »

Had the misfortune of having to walk into one of their shops the last day to check a price and the two morons talking ****e loudly through the speakers was the one thing I noticed.
Bookies are horrible rancid places these days, can't see how anyone could spend more than five minutes in them.

Price on Evoii Allen being ruled out of Cheltenham

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Just out of interest is there any group whattsapp forum on here? Might be of interest for sharing info those might not want to share online( i get info but cant always post online). Just a thought!

mirwillbeback

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

Just out of interest is there any group whattsapp forum on here? Might be of interest for sharing info those might not want to share online( i get info but cant always post online). Just a thought!

I think sonofgoat runs a subscription service :pac:

ON ZEE BRIDLE

mirwillbeback wrote: »

I think sonofgoat runs a subscription service :pac:

Haha I'll politely decline the offer!!

carq

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

Haha I'll politely decline the offer!!

i would sign up to it.
Make a profit by doing the opposite

ON ZEE BRIDLE

There is always one forum clown! We have one on not606 as well

Daraa

I am in two whatsapp groups from this forum, One hasnt been posted in since 19/10/2018 and the other one is fairly quiet with the last posting on 29/12/2019.

The forum is much more active.

Backed Verdana Blue at 33s e/w for the Champion Hurdle. Don't see her quoted for the Mares.

With all this talk today of Henderson and his shenanigans ruling Altior out of Kempton
wouldn't know where he'd send his two higher in the betting:

Epatante could go for the Mares and
Pentland Hills might be ruled out through some bs injury or just stay at home with a different target in
mind.

And then there's Fusil Raffles at a similar price - wouldn't be surprised if he was "one for later".

A better jock than Jerry McGrath up and you never know, assuming, and it's a pretty big assumption I know,
that she goes there.

Should really wait for NRNB but I rarely do

Niallers87

https://www.offtheball.com/sport/al-boum-photo-line-defend-gold-cup-title-entries-revealed-946654?fbclid=IwAR2PSMSN5AGP3-PUPVNXG7t41OK5Q-VAODpNwVWsWsITtQ3BNeWP8fbRPUo

WicklowBravee

I know he’s grey and trained by WPM so the comparison is kind of lazy but Asterion Forlonge does remind me of Champagne Fever. Might be one for the Supreme and try to make all. He might be WPM’s best novice hurdler, WP doesn’t have as strong a team of novice hurdlers as he has in the recent past. I know he said post race that he might go up in trip with him but I wouldn’t take that as gospel. He’s 33/1. I’d be against Abacadabras, that thing was a complete monkey as a bumper horse. Can see him traveling like a good thing and then not wanting to go past in the Supreme. AF was impressive in his maiden hurdle.

Slattsy

Handicap markets out. Let's smash those prices lads and get the value early.

madmoose

Slattsy wrote: »

Handicap markets out. Let's smash those prices lads and get the value early.

Thomas Darby - Coral Cup - 33/1

Kilbricken Storm - Pertemps Fina (when he qualifies next time out) 33/1

Slattsy

The Brits won't win any handicap!

madmoose

Slattsy wrote: »

The Brits won't win any handicap!

We will get a couple, everyone is backing Ilikethewayyourthinkin for the Martin Pipe and he has a UK mark of 140 which is perfect.

Slattsy

madmoose wrote: »

We will get a couple, everyone is backing Ilikethewayyourthinkin for the Martin Pipe and he has a UK mark of 140 which is perfect.

Blocked!! :pac:

Yeah seems to be on everyones radar alright.

I've yet to nail my colours to the mast on the MP, still a bit of work to do on it before the DRF.

Gavin "shels"

Ilikethewayyourthinkin and Glenloe for the Kim Muir the obvious handicappers. Prices killed on both once everywhere started pricing up the handicaps.

madmoose

Go on skybet , horse racing then specials and you will find the cromwell horse mentioned above at 25/1 to win martin pipe but win only, he is 14/1 best on that market alone so its worth a few quid at 25/1

madmoose

Out of these three which appeals most?

Top Jock at Cheltenham - Rachel Blackmore 8/1

Skybet special - Rachel Blackmore 2 or more winners 7/2

Skybet special - HDB 2 or more winners 5/1

Rachel and HDB currently have Notebook, Honeysuckle, Minella Indo, Aspire Tower plus handicappers etc

Thoughts?

akelly02

rachel 2 or more winners...no value tho

IAMAMORON

madmoose wrote: »

Out of these three which appeals most?

Top Jock at Cheltenham - Rachel Blackmore 8/1

Skybet special - Rachel Blackmore 2 or more winners 7/2

Skybet special - HDB 2 or more winners 5/1

Rachel and HDB currently have Notebook, Honeysuckle, Minella Indo, Aspire Tower plus handicappers etc

Thoughts?

Specials are mug bets invented by brokers to entice early money for the bookies bankroll.

There is a huge possibility that any of the above named fancies won't even run. In particular Honeysuckle, she could come into season or get a a setback, that happened last year. The Arkle will be very competitive for Notebook, Minello Indo is hit and miss etc.

Slattsy

Gavin shels wrote: »

Ilikethewayyourthinkin and Glenloe for the Kim Muir the obvious handicappers. Prices killed on both once everywhere started pricing up the handicaps.

Killed? Glenlow will go off 2/1

Gavin "shels"

Slattsy wrote: »

Killed? Glenlow will go off 2/1

2/1 in a handicap at Cheltenham.... I'll take two of what your smoking he will be shorter though on the day!

supremenovice

Deleted User wrote: »

Backed Verdana Blue at 33s e/w for the Champion Hurdle. Don't see her quoted for the Mares.

With all this talk today of Henderson and his shenanigans ruling Altior out of Kempton
wouldn't know where he'd send his two higher in the betting:

Epatante could go for the Mares and
Pentland Hills might be ruled out through some bs injury or just stay at home with a different target in
mind.

And then there's Fusil Raffles at a similar price - wouldn't be surprised if he was "one for later".

A better jock than Jerry McGrath up and you never know, assuming, and it's a pretty big assumption I know,
that she goes there.

Should really wait for NRNB but I rarely do

Certainly one of the better antepost 33/1 shots. I think last years novice hurdlers were a mediocre bunch. And considering Buveur, Melon and Espoir D'allen are all missing for one reason or another, it leaves it wide open for a smash and grab job by a seasoned hurdler. I said this last season too that Supasundae is a Champion Hurdle and not a World Hurdle horse but I was ignored. I still stand by it though.