Cheltenham 2020

The Mig

A 56/1 winner is what you're missing

RivetingRoger

Any word on why Rowland Ward was pulled?
Gone from betting
Heard nothing though
Liked him in the Fred Winter

FatRat

Slattsy wrote: »

Lads re. Paint the Dream? I've flicked through its form and i see nadda, nothing, nowt, fúck all! What am i missing??

Finished ahead of Deyrann De Carjac over course and distance. Deyrann beat Pym handy giving weight, who beat Imperial Aura handy (albeit over further).

Finished 15l ahead of Garo De Juilley. Same distance Imperial Aura manageed again the same horse.

3 pounds lower than Imperial Aura for this. Now that is just comparing his form to Imperial Aura but he is the fav so no harm in using that as a good measure. 56/1 is fairly huge tbf

carq

FatRat wrote: »

Finished ahead of Deyrann De Carjac over course and distance. Deyrann beat Pym handy giving weight, who beat Imperial Aura handy (albeit over further).

Finished 15l ahead of Garo De Juilley. Same distance Imperial Aura manageed again the same horse.

3 pounds lower than Imperial Aura for this. Now that is just comparing his form to Imperial Aura but he is the fav so no harm in using that as a good measure. 56/1 is fairly huge tbf

Last run is a concern, notes say trainer couldn't explain it.
did they need a blip to qualify it for cheltenham handicap or something ?

FatRat

carq wrote: »

Last run is a concern, notes say trainer couldn't explain it.
did they need a blip to qualify it for cheltenham handicap or something ?

Trainer explained somewhat... bad early error, pulled a shoe off and was never going after. Was also over 2m on good to soft. Never runs 2 miles

Sounds like I'm really advocating for him now. But obviously there is reasons for his big price and is by no means a penalty kick for a place even. I just think his price is way too big for a horse who has pretty much been confirmed to be going and has course and distance form.

Slattsy

carq wrote: »

Last run is a concern, notes say trainer couldn't explain it.
did they need a blip to qualify it for cheltenham handicap or something ?

Look at the drift that day!! Somebody knew..

lemush

akelly02 wrote: »

dickie says hi

Johnson wouldn’t lace their boots. Standard of riding in England is atrocious.

Gringo180

Do RTE show all the races at Chelt lads

RivetingRoger

Gringo180 wrote: »

Do RTE show all the races at Chelt lads

No. Don't show last 2 each day
Racing TV the only channel showing all races

Gringo180

RivetingRoger wrote: »

No. Don't show last 2 each day
Racing TV the only channel showing all races

Sound lad

maximo31

Slattsy wrote: »

Look at the drift that day!! Somebody knew..

Hate to miss the party!! I'm in too.:)

Andrew00

Do you not mean TV3 or Virgin Media

RTE have never showed the festival

stretchaq

Andrew00 wrote: »

Do you not mean TV3 or Virgin Media

RTE have never showed the festival

Yes they have???

Andrew00

stretchaq wrote: »

Yes they have???

No they don't. It's Virgin Media that show it.

Gringo180

Nearly sure they did also

Slattsy

Rte always used to have it. Changes recently.

EICVD

Rte used to show it when Channel 4 did

bluestone

any opinions on edwardstone @ 20/1 in the supreme? beat fiddlerontheroof at wincanton & 2nd to chantry house in a warwick bumper last year. worth an ew interest compared to the price of those two and goes well on soft.

FatRat

Lord Du Mesnil headed for the NH if it's soft, as per owner on Twitter.

Some bet if the ground is soft and they'll surely manage to get either Codd or Connor on board.

Andrew00

FatRat wrote: »

Lord Du Mesnil headed for the NH if it's soft, as per owner on Twitter.

Some bet if the ground is soft and they'll surely manage to get either Codd or Connor on board.

Great e/w bet if he does go

Earendil

Pistol Whipped for the Northern sh!tey whatever Close Brothers. Ran a decent if strange race lto. Was just off Master Tommytucker when that one made his usual bid for racecourse suicide. He was slightly impeded but not knocked about after that. Needed just to finish that race to qualify for this.

RivetingRoger

FatRat wrote: »

Lord Du Mesnil headed for the NH if it's soft, as per owner on Twitter.

Some bet if the ground is soft and they'll surely manage to get either Codd or Connor on board.

Liked him for Aintree for a while now , this race could be made for him
Champagne Classic was my bet but in his absence, with a fav who is far too short, Lord de Mesnil looks the one for me too

madmoose

In the NH Chase i’m going to take a chance on Springfield Fox 16/1 nrnb

He’s won 2/2 chases easily over staying trips and was 3/3 in point to points before he was sold, not sure how those p2p races panned out but he won them all by good margins and this race is going to cut up badly.

Croll

madmoose wrote: »

In the NH Chase i’m going to take a chance on Springfield Fox 16/1 nrnb

He’s won 2/2 chases easily over staying trips and was 3/3 in point to points before he was sold, not sure how those p2p races panned out but he won them all by good margins and this race is going to cut up badly.

looks a solid each way bet as there shouldnt be any doubt about him staying, slattsy tipped him up too at 33-1 last week I think

madmoose

Croll wrote: »

looks a solid each way bet as there shouldnt be any doubt about him staying, slattsy tipped him up too at 33-1 last week I think

I hadn't paid much attention until Copperhead looked unlikely to run here yesterday, 6 day decs tomorrow so get on some tuesday horse you feel as value now.

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

And i have just seen this years Martin Pipe winner.

This lad into 6/1 in places :eek:

Croll

Slattsy wrote: »

This lad into 6/1 in places :eek:

Could he be in the imperial cup this weekend? I still fancy cromwells

Slattsy

Croll wrote: »

Could he be in the imperial cup this weekend? I still fancy cromwells

I'd be surprised and i hope not. But knowing my luck lately, he'll run, fall, get injured, and ruled out of the festival.

Slattsy

This time next week, I'll be out for a big durrrrty fry somewhere in town. The Kingfisher probably.
Will i get chips? Yes.
Will i get batch toast? Yes most definitely.
Tea or coffee? Tea obviously, what imbecile has coffee with a fry!

Then might nip in to an early house (Slattery's most likely but that might change) for one or two before jumping in a taxi back to my local

The Mig

Should be having a can or pint with your fry absolute amateur

Slattsy

The Mig wrote: »

Should be having a can or pint with your fry absolute amateur

I dont like drinking while i'm eating

realdanbreen

Gavin shels wrote: »

Pubs in Dublin city for the Thursday that would have a good bit of atmosphere? Group of us go from work for pints and to watch it, last year was the Gin Palace as it's a stones throw from our office but looking for somewhere a bit more of a racing crowd.

Often wonder why this crops up each year.
Do ye guys stir out at all during the rest of the year seeing as ye don't know where to go?

NaiveMelodies

AP for Life.
#justice4honeysuckle

Slattsy

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

AP for Life.
#justice4honeysuckle

Pint?

Earendil

realdanbreen wrote: »

Often wonder why this crops up each year.
Do ye guys stir out at all during the rest of the year seeing as ye don't know where to go?

It's different. Some locals are ****€ for it....the Autobahn springs to mind. Do nothing, no promotions bets, no free bowl of stew...no free beer.

Earendil

Earendil wrote: »

It's different. Some locals are ****€ for it....the Autobahn springs to mind. Do nothing, no promotions bets, no free bowl of stew...no free beer.

Also, Gav is heading with a work crew and looking for recommendations for a place suitable for a group.

Brock Turnpike

Earendil wrote: »

Also, Gav is heading with a work crew and looking for recommendations for a place suitable for a group.

And he has every right to ask what is a perfectly normal question.

RivetingRoger

Honeysuckle confirmed to mares hurdle
They must be confident
could she beat Beni??

PillarToPost

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Honeysuckle confirmed to mares hurdle
They must be confident
could she beat Beni??

can't see it

FatRat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Honeysuckle confirmed to mares hurdle
They must be confident
could she beat Beni??

No

NaiveMelodies

Slattsy wrote: »

Pint?

Please.

Slattsy

Good luck to all you Paint the Dream backers, i hope he comes in for you at the prices. But i just dont see it, and i really wanted to!

I went balls deep into this race last night, and i think the fav Imperial Aura deserves to his place there but price isnt for me, though he may well win.

I'm taking him on however with Put the Kettle On. Really like that form of his last race, look what the 4th horse has gone on to do... I know he got a few lbs but he won that race well. Been put away since. Only concern is he jumps out to the right but hopefully HDB has ironed that out. I think 16s is extremely fair.

akelly02

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Honeysuckle confirmed to mares hurdle
They must be confident
could she beat Beni??

hopefully we get evens on benie now

RivetingRoger

Gary O'Brien says Honeysuckle beats Beni

NaiveMelodies

akelly02 wrote: »

hopefully we get evens on benie now

Already evens on the machine.

I've a weird feeling there be a last minute reroute though.

castletownman

Can anyone recommend a decent pub in Kilkenny city for the Thursday of the festival?

IAMAMORON

Slattsy wrote: »

Good luck to all you Paint the Dream backers, i hope he comes in for you at the prices. But i just dont see it, and i really wanted to!

I went balls deep into this race last night, and i think the fav Imperial Aura deserves to his place there but price isnt for me, though he may well win.

I'm taking him on however with Put the Kettle On. Really like that form of his last race, look what the 4th horse has gone on to do... I know he got a few lbs but he won that race well. Been put away since. Only concern is he jumps out to the right but hopefully HDB has ironed that out. I think 16s is extremely fair.

Paint the Dream is a bit grasping for straws. Fergal O'Brien does not train enough festival winners and apart from that the form is not really there to be winning this race.

All the handicaps are get out of jail cards for grade 2 horses who are cutting their losses and not going for the big one. Put the Kettle on has a definite chance. I also like the look of Espoir De Guye. If Knight in Dubai skips this for Aintree lump on.

FatRat

What's wrong with the Paint the Dream form Vs Imperial Aura I mentioned before?

I wouldn't call it clutching when hes 55/1. Clutching to massive value maybe. 10/1 for a top 5 finish is a better way of looking at it. Obviously unlikely he wins.

Plentyofice

Anyone know what race McFabulous will run in ? Entered in the Coral and the Pipe hurdle. Runs this Saturday in Sandown ?

madmoose

Plentyofice wrote: »

Anyone know what race McFabulous will run in ? Entered in the Coral and the Pipe hurdle. Runs this Saturday in Sandown ?

Dont think he goes the festival Nicholls said