Cheltenham 2020

RivetingRoger

There once was a gelding called Percy
Who had the gold cup at his mercy
His trainer was mad
It made us all sad
When He lost and we all went home thirsty !

carq

what about sizing john 50/1 nrnb for the gold cup ?

akelly02

carq wrote: »

what about sizing john 50/1 nrnb for the gold cup ?

not at 500/1

Slattsy

BumperD wrote: »

Anyone backing without NRNB, in today’s competitive market, is not betting sensibly. The ante post markets died years ago. NRNB is out far earlier now than ever you can get value and still have a run for your money, betting without that concession without inside information is idiotic.

Probably one of the most ill informed posts I've ever read on this forum. Goat level nonsense, and I'm sorry to say that because you're a good poster.

Didn't Skybet halve all prices once they went NRNB? And quite a few will shorten again.

So anyone sitting on a docket worth double, if not more, before them going NRNB, is an idiot?? **** me! I'd suggest they're a ****ing god damn shrewd punter.

Ap markets have not died. Ante post markets are absolutely the way to go. That's where the value lies. Always has been and always will. I don't need inside info for this. Like plenty of others. A horse can still get injured with inside info I assume? Is that idiotic too?

If you don't want to bet ante post don't. But I'd suggest not commenting on it.

There's always a risk, clearly. The game is about risks though, is it not? If people are worried about losing a few bob on an ap bet then horse racing probably isn't for them. I'd suggest a lucky 15 on the day might suit better? And I'd rather take that risk with a 20s docket in my hand with a horse that goes off less than half that price.

Rant. Over.

Earendil

Ah Jaysus not you too Slattsy.
What is it with the horse racing forum on boards where people have to spout like this.
You like AP betting...we get it. Great, go for it. BD doesn't and has offered his opinion on why. And off you go with "Goat level nonsense" and "ill informed posts".

Thought you were better than that to be honest.

Slattsy wrote: »

Probably one of the most ill informed posts I've ever read on this forum. Goat level nonsense, and I'm sorry to say that because you're a good poster.

Didn't Skybet halve all prices once they went NRNB? And quite a few will shorten again.

So anyone sitting on a docket worth double, if not more, before them going NRNB, is an idiot?? **** me! I'd suggest they're a ****ing god damn shrewd punter.

Ap markets have not died. Ante post markets are absolutely the way to go. That's where the value lies. Always has been and always will. I don't need inside info for this. Like plenty of others. A horse can still get injured with inside info I assume? Is that idiotic too?

If you don't want to bet ante post don't. But I'd suggest not commenting on it.

There's always a risk, clearly. The game is about risks though, is it not? If people are worried about losing a few bob on an ap bet then horse racing probably isn't for them. I'd suggest a lucky 15 on the day might suit better? And I'd rather take that risk with a 20s docket in my hand with a horse that goes off less than half that price.

Rant. Over.

longshotvalue

Sure when Us and them Wins the Grand Annual, that will get me out of jail again ;-). This strong pace 2 miles will be perfect for him on hopefully somewhat decent ground. 50/1 antepost.

carq

i am in between the 2 views.
its great getting the value but you are gambling 3 times antepost

1) the horse will not get injured
2) the horse will run in the race you bet on
3) the horse will win the race you bet on

I gave antepost a good whack last year and got badly stung with injuries with horses at lovely odds
Cialos emery / malone road / quick grabim
Road to respect / Storyteller - race change

Was 200 euro down before a race was run.

With the above I think you would want to have some kind of inside track or be betting small stakes.
i think the win any race market is a bit safer and can reduce the risk somewhat.

IAMAMORON

I would rather have the 200 euro for a bet of the 3rd or 4th favourite in the Supreme and sit back and enjoy the race. I cannot disagree with any of the above.

Slattsy

Earendil wrote: »

Ah Jaysus not you too Slattsy.
What is it with the horse racing forum on boards where people have to spout like this.
You like AP betting...we get it. Great, go for it. BD doesn't and has offered his opinion on why. And off you go with "Goat level nonsense" and "ill informed posts".

Thought you were better than that to be honest.

The goat level was tongue in cheek obviously

Saying you need inside knowledge though?
That ap markets died years ago? (When its probably gone the other direction with the exchanges as it gives a good early indication of where a nag may go)

But that's the definition of an ill informed post, and i'm sorry to disappoint you

I do however take particular issue with calling people idiots. Are Hugh Taylor/Kevin Blake idiots? (im sure there's more than these 2) They recopmmend AP bets but their opinions/angles dont reflect inside info.

I'll call anyone out on bullshít. And as i said, he's generally a good aul poster. Everyone is open to scrutiny, myself included! Its a forum, opinions will differ.

Slattsy

aidankkk wrote: »

Sure when Us and them Wins the Grand Annual, that will get me out of jail again ;-). This strong pace 2 miles will be perfect for him on hopefully somewhat decent ground. 50/1 antepost.

He's on my radar for the GA also.

Magic Saint seems to be one Nicholls has laid out for this but i missed the bigger prices. Will keep an eye on which one of GE appears to be aiming, he's a few sneaky ones in there..

Bun Doran also on my list.

madmoose

Slattsy wrote: »

He's on my radar for the GA also.

Magic Saint seems to be one Nicholls has laid out for this but i missed the bigger prices. Will keep an eye on which one of GE appears to be aiming, he's a few sneaky ones in there..

Bun Doran also on my list.

Bun Doran goes QMCC and Magic Saint is rated around 154 so be hard seeing he couldn’t land a blow last year off a lower mark.

Ex Patriot back in trip i’d have for that.

Slattsy

madmoose wrote: »

Bun Doran goes QMCC and Magic Saint is rated around 154 so be hard seeing he couldn’t land a blow last year off a lower mark.

Ex Patriot back in trip i’d have for that.

There's a big one in Magic Saint and i thought its last run was eyecatching.

Didnt know that about Bun Doran, was hoping they;d try the handicap route

RivetingRoger

aidankkk wrote: »

Sure when Us and them Wins the Grand Annual, that will get me out of jail again ;-). This strong pace 2 miles will be perfect for him on hopefully somewhat decent ground. 50/1 antepost.

33s with PP

Did you lump on 👆

NaiveMelodies

madmoose wrote: »

Bun Doran goes QMCC and Magic Saint is rated around 154 so be hard seeing he couldn’t land a blow last year off a lower mark.

Ex Patriot back in trip i’d have for that.

Dunno if they'll drop him back in trip after he wins the Thyestes.

NaiveMelodies

BumperD wrote: »

Anyone backing without NRNB, in today’s competitive market, is not betting sensibly. The ante post markets died years ago. NRNB is out far earlier now than ever you can get value and still have a run for your money, betting without that concession without inside information is idiotic.

You clearly have little to no grasp of what an ante post bet is and the additional variables it represents in comparison to standard bets.
That is completely OK though. Do your thing.

The ante post markets are alive. Long live the ante post markets.

Honeysuckle at 50/1 for the CH, baby. Insensible? Idiotic?
Sire Du Berlais, Slattys well documented play last year. Insensible? Idiotic?

longshotvalue

RivetingRoger wrote: »

33s with PP

Did you lump on 👆

I never lump on anything. 50/1 with 365 . But excitement if he goes there.

Santini at 9s a stonking bet for the GC

my festival NAP

madmoose

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Dunno if they'll drop him back in trip after he wins the Thyestes.

Travelled well at Cheltenham lto before faded a little late on, hope he drops back.

IAMAMORON

madmoose wrote: »

Travelled well at Cheltenham lto before faded a little late on, hope he drops back.

I think Ex patriot needs to go right handed. I was surprised he wasn't campaigned for the 2mile handicap at Fairyhouse last weekend, nice money.

I think your right about the trip, the horse has never looked like winning anything over 2 miles and a half. It will be a like a bog at Gowran next week, cannot see it myself. I love the horse though.

NaiveMelodies

madmoose wrote: »

Travelled well at Cheltenham lto before faded a little late on, hope he drops back.

Yeah fair re his Cheltenham run. I thought his run behind Battleroverdoyen hinted at his capability as a stayer and as a result I am in no doubt he wins the Thyestes.

The Mig

Strongly run Grand Annual would be ideal for Ex Patriot IMO

Slattsy

Deleted User wrote: »

Santini at 9s a stonking bet for the GC

my festival NAP

Ah bollix :mad:

RivetingRoger

Slattsy wrote: »

Ah bollix :mad:

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Doctors room ghost

Percy got a private gallop in Galway before cheltenham last year.they turned the fences so he could pop a few left handed.
He traveled well to cheltenham but they said he kicked a rail in the saddling enclosure before the race and went away shook after it.
Hope he gets better luck this year.

Slattsy

Slattsy wrote: »

Ah bollix :mad:

Tears in eyes :D:D

Motivator

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think Ex patriot needs to go right handed. I was surprised he wasn't campaigned for the 2mile handicap at Fairyhouse last weekend, nice money.

I think your right about the trip, the horse has never looked like winning anything over 2 miles and a half. It will be a like a bog at Gowran next week, cannot see it myself. I love the horse though.

If he was trained by someone who had a clue about racing then he’d be a serious horse.

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

Probably one of the most ill informed posts I've ever read on this forum. Goat level nonsense, and I'm sorry to say that because you're a good poster.

Didn't Skybet halve all prices once they went NRNB? And quite a few will shorten again.

So anyone sitting on a docket worth double, if not more, before them going NRNB, is an idiot?? **** me! I'd suggest they're a ****ing god damn shrewd punter.

Ap markets have not died. Ante post markets are absolutely the way to go. That's where the value lies. Always has been and always will. I don't need inside info for this. Like plenty of others. A horse can still get injured with inside info I assume? Is that idiotic too?

If you don't want to bet ante post don't. But I'd suggest not commenting on it.

There's always a risk, clearly. The game is about risks though, is it not? If people are worried about losing a few bob on an ap bet then horse racing probably isn't for them. I'd suggest a lucky 15 on the day might suit better? And I'd rather take that risk with a 20s docket in my hand with a horse that goes off less than half that price.

Rant. Over.

Stop ranting :pac:

Slattsy

BumperD wrote: »

Stop ranting :pac:

Jesus i got off lightly :pac:

Plasandrunt

Tickets recieved in the post today

BumperD

Slattsy wrote: »

Jesus i got off lightly :pac:

It’s a new year peace love and all that

Kalashnikov for Ryanair at 25s

Amy's happy with him - good enough for me.

Can see Nick Luck post race going.... "and we're seeing quotes of 15 to... no wait the 15/2 is gone, now best price 11/2 for next year's blue riband! Incredible, so Amy I'm sure the gold cup is not on your mind at this stage.. You must be ecstatic.. can you sum it up for us?"

Amy "Unbelievable Nick, I can't believe it.. I'm thrilled, just thrilled. I'm lost for words really."

Luck " Amazing story, of course last year we had Bryony.. Bryony Frost (obligatory Bryony Frost mention, but fair play to Luck it'll be the only mention - in this interview at least ).. who was just run out of it in the end, and now this - Cheltenham really does throw up fairytales.... So congratulations once again to Amy Murphy and team."

Amy "Cheers Nick - thanks"

Luck "Over too you Rishi - unbelievable scenes here in the winners enclosure"

Persad "Absolutely Nick.. Here we are with Bry........ " :D:D:D:D:D :mad:

RivetingRoger

Deleted User wrote: »

Kalashnikov for Ryanair at 25s

Amy's happy with him - good enough for me.

Can see Nick Luck post race going.... "and we're seeing quotes of 15 to... no wait the 15/2 is gone, now best price 11/2 for next year's blue riband! Incredible, so Amy I'm sure the gold cup is not on your mind at this stage.. You must be ecstatic.. can you sum it up for us?"

Amy "Unbelievable Nick, I can't believe it.. I'm thrilled, just thrilled. I'm lost for words really."

Luck " Amazing story, of course last year we had Bryony.. Bryony Frost (obligatory Bryony Frost mention, but fair play to Luck it'll be the only mention - in this interview at least ).. who was just run out of it in the end, and now this - Cheltenham really does throw up fairytales.... So congratulations once again to Amy Murphy and team."

Amy "Cheers Nick - thanks"

Luck "Over too you Rishi - unbelievable scenes here in the winners enclosure"

Persad "Absolutely Nick.. Here we are with Bry........ " :D:D:D:D:D :mad:

Hilarious sure..................

Scott Tenorman

Deleted User wrote: »

Kalashnikov for Ryanair at 25s

Amy's happy with him - good enough for me.

Can see Nick Luck post race going.... "and we're seeing quotes of 15 to... no wait the 15/2 is gone, now best price 11/2 for next year's blue riband! Incredible, so Amy I'm sure the gold cup is not on your mind at this stage.. You must be ecstatic.. can you sum it up for us?"

Amy "Unbelievable Nick, I can't believe it.. I'm thrilled, just thrilled. I'm lost for words really."

Luck " Amazing story, of course last year we had Bryony.. Bryony Frost (obligatory Bryony Frost mention, but fair play to Luck it'll be the only mention - in this interview at least ).. who was just run out of it in the end, and now this - Cheltenham really does throw up fairytales.... So congratulations once again to Amy Murphy and team."

Amy "Cheers Nick - thanks"

Luck "Over too you Rishi - unbelievable scenes here in the winners enclosure"

Persad "Absolutely Nick.. Here we are with Bry........ " :D:D:D:D:D :mad:

That's why posting at 4.41am is a bad idea.....

Footpad in the CC another one I like.

The race is there for the taking with no standout contender this year.

Probably shorter for other races but the crook wants to burn as many AP
dockets as he can, so he's ran him over different trips recently.

You're not fooling me William

Some of the experts on the forum might disagree with me but it's my opinion and therefore correct.

Shout out to Nostradamus

RivetingRoger

Somebody stop them ............

I says

Allmankind into cotton wool till the festival.

lemush

I says wrote: »

Allmankind into cotton wool till the festival.

If that yolk wins a triumph I’ll give it
up.

I says

lemush wrote: »

If that yolk wins a triumph I’ll give it
up.

Cant see it myself.

abarkie

JLT being renamed and will now be known as the Marsh Novices' Chase.

This is because Marsh, the world's leading insurance broker and risk adviser, acquired Jardine Lloyd Thompson (JLT) in April, 2019.

The Mig

Have I been made a mod yet?

Earendil

The Mig wrote: »

Have I been made a mod yet?

No. You are a Mig, I repeat a Mig ...not a Mod.

Just be thankful you’re not a Mog!

Slattsy

I should be the Mod.

But all me red and yellow cards in the GAA forum is frowned upon. Ha

The Mig

Wouldn't have you as a mod myself here Slatts. Would probably take myself over to the gambling forum if you were made one

Slattsy

The Mig wrote: »

Wouldn't have you as a mod myself here Slatts. Would probably take myself over to the gambling forum if you were made one

The Mig

Joking obviously Slattsy. You'd be my 2nd in command

Andrew00

Allaho.

Gavin "shels"

We'll know our Supreme winner in 50 days time!

Slattsy

Andrew00 wrote: »

Allaho.

JLT or RSA? That is the question.

I like him myself, but for the RSA. But i've a feeling he'll go JLT.

RivetingRoger

The Mig wrote: »

Joking obviously Slattsy. You'd be my 2nd in command

That's BumperD f**ked then!

Slattsy

RivetingRoger wrote: »

That's BumperD f**ked then!

You better watch yourself! Or you'll be oot!