Why do you feel the need to buy a new car?

Quantum Erasure

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If you're spending so much time in the car, surely you want it to be as nice and as comfortable a place to be as possible? You wouldn't buy a church pew to use as a couch just because it's cheap.

there's comfortable, and there's 'top of the range, new off the shelf, 'sporty' models'. There's plenty 10 year old cars that won't leave you with ****ed up hips and back when you step out of the seat after a couple hours drive, theres plenty that'll get you there and back as comfortable as any other car

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

That not an answer. Were talking about money. Not what someone chooses to do with their time.

You're being very short sighted if you think lots of small amounts of money saved wouldn't be near one big amount.

Okay a new Octavia in Ireland is 27K, mine cost me 7K and its the top spec, Oh where oh where did the other 20K done, im dumbfounded.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Are you listening to yourself right now? Do you know my mechanic?

I know economics. Any time he spends driving to and from you're house or job to collect the car is time he isn't earning.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I know economics. Any time he spends driving to and from you're house or job to collect the car is time he isn't earning.

Ah jaysus and answer my last query please if you have the cohonies.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Okay a new Octavia in Ireland is 27K, mine cost me 7K and its the top spec, Oh where oh where did the other 20K done, im dumbfounded.

That wasn't the question. Why don't you apply the same logic to all purchases and save money. Television, appliances, furniture. It's all a waste of money buying new, the logic is the same.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Ah jaysus and answer my last query please if you have the cohonies.

See "ah jaysus" isn't an answer.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

That wasn't the question. Why don't you apply the same logic to all purchases and save money. Television, appliances, furniture. It's all a waste of money buying new, the logic is the same.

Because a tv doesn't cost 27K, seriously that's basic economics.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Ah jaysus and answer my last query please if you have the cohonies.

I answered your last one within a minute of you posting it, when you start having the same rate of reply then maybe you can start with the demands.

Considering it took you half an hour and 3 attempts form 2 different people to get you to acknowledge 2 questions that you're still faffing about with , I think I'm doing ok.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I answered your last one within a mi ute of you posting it, when you start having the same rate of reply then maybe you can start with the demands.

So Keep wasting your money on cars while i'll retire at 45-50. I actually think my 2010 Skoda will do me till then with a bit of fixing over the years.

Enjoy. That's my last comment until someone comes back with a decent argument instead of trying to twist my comments.

GL

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Because a tv doesn't cost 27K, seriously that's basic economics.

See, again with the picking out. 1 tv doesn't cost 27k, but it's a good thing I never said it did. I mean it's right there in the post you quoted, but you keep doing that, quoting and then just picking 1 word or a line out.


Stopped arseing around the answer, why do you not apply the same money saving logic to all purchases? Forget that they don't cost the same as the car, you've tried that numerous times.

Over the course of the 25 years we're discussing, you'll buy a lot of things, things which could be gotten much cheaper 2nd hand and do the same job and added up will save a lot of money. So why don't you? Why are you fixated on the car that that you wont be buying anyway?

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

So Keep wasting your money on cars while i'll retire at 45-50. I actually think my 2010 Skoda will do me till then with a bit of fixing over the years.

Enjoy. That's my last comment until someone comes back with a decent argument instead of trying to twist my comments.

GL

No one has twisted anything, you been asked direct questions that you've refused to answer then tried to drag it away from it by selective answers.

They were very simple questions that you've dragged out to multiple waffley posts to try bury them without giving a proper answer.


Don't worry, you're not clever or groundbreaking, it's a common tactic when people have no answer.

knucklehead6

themouthpiece wrote: »

So Keep wasting your money on cars while i'll retire at 45-50. I actually think my 2010 Skoda will do me till then with a bit of fixing over the years.

Enjoy. That's my last comment until someone comes back with a decent argument instead of trying to twist my comments.

GL

What age are you now? How long till you hit 45?

I haven’t bothered reading the full thread, just briefly glanced over it, so apologies if you’ve already answered that question.

Somewhere OvB is furiously scribbling down notes to join in here.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

See, again with the picking out. 1 tv doesn't cost 27k, but it's a good thing I never said it did. I mean it's right there in the post you quoted, but you keep doing that, quoting and then just picking 1 word or a line out.


Stopped arseing around the answer, why do you not apply the same money saving logic to all purchases? Forget that they don't cost the same as the car, you've tried that numerous times.

Over the course of the 25 years we're discussing, you'll buy a lot of things, things which could be gotten much cheaper 2nd hand and do the same job and added up will save a lot of money. So why don't you? Why are you fixated on the car that that you wont be buying anyway?

BECAUSE ITS 30K OR MORE for a new car, probably 50K for a decent car. How are you not getting that?

Its a complete and utter waste of money.

Let me put it into perspective. You buy a car for 40K how much is it worth after 5 years. 20K even that? Probably 15K. Theres 20-25K down the drain.

tomwaits48

OP is incredibly vexed about an issue that doesn’t effect him, complex much?

For me, I get a car allowance for my job and buy a new car every 2 years. It’s great.

facehugger99

What a sh;tshow.

themouthpiece

tomwaits48 wrote: »

OP is incredibly vexed about an issue that doesn’t effect him, complex much?

For me, I get a car allowance for my job but a new car every 2 years. It’s great.

Nah, just another issue with Ireland.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

BECAUSE ITS 30K OR MORE for a new car, probably 50K for a decent car. How are you not getting that?

Its a complete and utter waste of money.

Let me put it into perspective. You buy a car for 40K how much is it worth after 5 years. 20K even that?

Keep pushing the figurs up to suit yourself.

Even if it's worth 15k. How much are your holidays worth? I'll give you a hint, it's less than €1 .

Again you're fixated on just going on and on about the car price. Its a lot of money, but if you're that concerned youd be saving all the lesser amounts too. They all add up. Especially holidays.

All this time and energy wasted not answering very simple questions. Your time cwnt be worth that much to you either.

Just admit it, you wanted a rant about people being able to afford new cars.

Markcheese

I just drove my parents new seat arona to Dublin and back last night ,(airport run) ,6 hours of motorway driving ....and got back fresh as a daisy ...
I slagged my parents about changing up from their 3 year old fabia ,... But it's a way more comfortable car to drive ... Leaps and bounds ahead ,
Better driving position, better seats ,(easier in and out for them ),better 1liter engine,better gearing, even better toys (cruise control ),
Is it a luxury they don't "need" ? yup...
Am I gonna run out and replace my 16 year old daily driver ?... Nope ....

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Keep pushing the figurs up to suit yourself.

Even if it's worth 15k. How much are your holidays worth? I'll give you a hint, it's less than €1 .

Again you're fixated on just going on and on about the car price. Its a lot of money, but if you're that concerned youd be saving all the lesser amounts too. They all add up. Especially holidays.

So if a car is worth 40K your happy to lose 25K in five years and sell it for 15K MY GOD. 25K down the drain.

All this time and energy wasted not answering very simple questions.

Just admit it, you wanted a rant about people being able to afford new cars.

Petty insults now, your the one getting offended. I could buy a 7 series in the morning.

You keep going about simple questions? Repeat please as i answered whatever you asked.

You can't take that a new car is a complete and utter waste of money and is going to feck you having to work up till retirement age while i can retire at 45-50.

You say that a holiday is a waste of money? What do you do on your time off, drive around in your Ireland in your car for the week? Spend your weekdays watching the late late show repeats?

Man seriously your making a fool of yourself now.

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

Petty insults now, your the one getting offended. I could buy a 7 series in the morning.

You keep going about simple questions? Repeat please as i answered whatever you asked.

You can't take that a new car is a complete and utter waste of money and is going to feck you having to work up till retirement age while i can retire at 45-50.

You say that a holiday is a waste of money? What do you do on your time off, drive around in your Ireland in your car for the week? Spend your weekdays watching the late late show repeats?

Man seriously your making a fool of yourself now.

Theres no insults.

And yes, you keep telling us you could buy a 7 series in the morning , good for you.


Seriously 4th time of asking
I asked why the holidays made sound financial sense considering you get zero return but an asset, depreciating as it may be, that leaves you with value isn't.

Shouting that the car costs 30k is irrelevant, we're taking about it making financial sense, it doesn't matter whether its 30k or €30 either it makes financial sense or it doesn't.

What people do with the time is irrelevant, they can do as they choose with their time. You're the one ranting and raving that someone spending 30k on a car is a stupid waste of money but because you like holidays they're not a waste of money .



Here are the 2 questions again :



So again, because you like to avoid and say a question wasn't asked: other than your preference being to spend money on a holiday rather than a car, why is the car a waste of money but the holiday isn't?

And

Why not apply the same money saving logice and buy everything wnd hand to save money for retirement (again, that it doesn't cost the same as the car is irrelevant). Elctronics, furniture, appliances, anything else you buy. You could get to that retirement age you keep going on about a bit earlier if you saved on everything.

Alf Veedersane

themouthpiece wrote: »

While your slaving away i'll be on a cruise ship multiple times a year.

Got as far as here.

The OP "travelling"...ie on a boat with the cast of Cocoon...living the dream.

Marvellous.

seamusk84

I like new cars and it's my business. That's why.

Not sure why other people would get wound up about it?

PsychoPete

You need people to buy new cars so people can buy used cars

Cyrus

themouthpiece wrote: »

Petty insults now, your the one getting offended. I could buy a 7 series in the morning.

You keep going about simple questions? Repeat please as i answered whatever you asked.

You can't take that a new car is a complete and utter waste of money and is going to feck you having to work up till retirement age while i can retire at 45-50.

You say that a holiday is a waste of money? What do you do on your time off, drive around in your Ireland in your car for the week? Spend your weekdays watching the late late show repeats?

Man seriously your making a fool of yourself now.

Anyone can buy a 7 series in the morning check the luxo barge thread

I don’t think you are as well off or as clever as you are trying to pretend

If you are referring to a new 7 series most people who buy them have multiples of the amount required not the same as you having 100k saved

Why is the OP blowing themselves for making €65k per annum anyway? I don’t make that much myself but it’s hardly rich territory in this day and age. You’d swear they were making €165k.

Telly

My new car should be delivered next week. I’m now driving a 181 but it’s a 2 door and circumstances have changed so need a 4 door now and said feck it and got all the bells and whistles. I doubt I’ll be changing it over the next 7/8 years now. I don’t see it as a waste of money at all.

Deub

themouthpiece wrote: »

You can't take that a new car is a complete and utter waste of money and is going to feck you having to work up till retirement age while i can retire at 45-50.

That's what you hope, not what you can. Big difference.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Theres no insults.


Seriously 4th time of asking
I asked why the holidays made sound financial sense considering you get zero return but an asset, depreciating as it may be, that leaves you with value isn't.

Like seriously? Your on amount a depreciating asset which you mentioned.
What is the difference between a 7K car over two years and a 30K car over 5 years.
I just see it as a major waste of money when it could be used be better like retirement. I don't know your financial situation but a new car is just pointless, most petrol stations now sell new car smell air freshers if that gives you a boner.


Shouting that the car costs 30k is irrelevant, we're taking about it making financial sense, it doesn't matter whether its 30k or €30 either it makes financial sense or it doesn't.

You really comparing 30 euro to 30K I can buy a 5K car now compared to your 30K car and retire early.. OKAY

What people do with the time is irrelevant, they can do as they choose with their time. You're the one rant and raving that someone spending 30k on a car is a stupid waste of money but because you like holidays they're not a waste of money .

I never said once that I spend all my money on holidays but i will be able retire at 45-50 by not spending stupid money on a car. Another 150K from 22 to 45 easily to retiring early.

So again, because you like to avoid and say a question wasn't asked: other than your preference being to spend money 9n a holiday rather than a car, why is the car a waste of money but the holiday isn't?

I never said i spent all my money on a holiday, not once. I still don't understand how you think a new car is a good purchase, its a terrible purchase..

Why not apply the same money saving logice and buy everything wnd hand to save money for retirement (again, that it doesn't cost the same as the car is irrelevant). Elctronics, furniture, appliances, anything else you buy.
Because a TV, COUCH, doesn't cost 30K

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Tom Mann Centuria

Each to their own, I can see both sides of this. I only have one car, out in the country that myself and wife share, so we went new for the reliability (warranty/roadside assist etc) after having a couple of cars, (fiat multipla :pac: and Ford Focus) that weren't always reliable and left us stranded. The focus was only 6 years old when I bought it too.


But it is a big cost, and probably not financially sound.

Funny enough, my 3 year pcp finance deal is up in February, then I have to decide if I go again with a new car, or get a loan to pay off the final payment and keep my current car. It'd be my 3rd go around the pcp merry go round, and 4th new car in 13 years.

themouthpiece

Deub wrote: »

That's what you hope, not what you can. Big difference.

Oh I can and I will.

I'm just loving this thread cause its in after hours an not the high horse brigade motors forum.

padjocollins

read all the posts and my take is, a forum is interesting as long as people are genuinely trying to swap info and understand each others point of view. this thread should have taken up about 2 pages . There are people that get immense satisfaction out of buying new cars and view the money as worth every penny. I enjoy renting a cheap but new car when i come back to visit and i get to see the newer tech that's filtering down.
To be honest i'd be in the waste of money camp. i'm more into propety (not wealty/rich) and get immence satisfaction from money spent on upgrading a house from F rated Ber to say B. As long as your not blowing your horn, pardon the pun, if new cars is your thing, more power to you.

themouthpiece

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Why is the OP blowing themselves for making €65k per annum anyway? I don’t make that much myself but it’s hardly rich territory in this day and age. You’d swear they were making €165k.

I'm not but i have more money than i know what to do with

bobbyss

themouthpiece wrote:

Okay lets go. I'm a very intelligent person. Math and Physics degree from NUIM

Beginning to sound like Trump there. Next you'll be saying nobody knows more about Maths and Physics than yourself.

themouthpiece

bobbyss wrote: »

Beginning to sound like Trump there. Next you'll be saying nobody knows more about Maths and Physics than yourself.

I usually don't drink but on my own tonight so thought it would be funny to wind a few up.

themouthpiece

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

See, again with the picking out. 1 tv doesn't cost 27k, but it's a good thing I never said it did. I mean it's right there in the post you quoted, but you keep doing that, quoting and then just picking 1 word or a line out.


Stopped arseing around the answer, why do you not apply the same money saving logic to all purchases? Forget that they don't cost the same as the car, you've tried that numerous times.

Over the course of the 25 years we're discussing, you'll buy a lot of things, things which could be gotten much cheaper 2nd hand and do the same job and added up will save a lot of money. So why don't you? Why are you fixated on the car that that you wont be buying anyway?

I'll leave you alone, 35,000 posts wow.

Maybe open the curtains once in a while or get out instead of watching the late late show.

Peace

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

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****ing hell. More talking without answering. Nowhere did I say you spend all your money on holidays or any of the other unrelated rubbish you posted. Simple questions you refuse to answer again. Why spend so much energy to say nothing and avoid a question. Just say you've no answer

coolbeans

themouthpiece wrote: »

I'm not but i have more money than i know what to do with

As a rule in life I find people who repeatedly state the above are jealous begrudgers always looking to see what others have. This is what this thread about really isn't it OP?

Guy:Incognito

themouthpiece wrote: »

I'll leave you alone, 35,000 posts wow.

Maybe open the curtains once in a while or get out instead of watching the late late show.

Peace

I know you struggle with figures, its 35000 over 16 years, not all today.

You shouldn't set up a new account and try to do it all in one go, spread that 35000 out like I did, it'll take you up to retirement.

Mundo7976

If ye can afford it why not. Cant take it with you to the grave. Life is for living may as well enjoy it. Id hate to be 75 sitting on a pile of savings im unable to do anything with.

Mad_maxx

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The holiday is a good comparison too. Value drops to zero straight away. 100% depreciation in 2 weeks is worse than any car ever made.

Plus you get to see the car every day, the holiday is confined to your memories

is_that_so

Telly wrote: »

My new car should be delivered next week. I’m now driving a 181 but it’s a 2 door and circumstances have changed so need a 4 door now and said feck it and got all the bells and whistles. I doubt I’ll be changing it over the next 7/8 years now. I don’t see it as a waste of money at all.

It's that obsession with the price tag and immediate depreciation that gets people all lathered up. If it gets you and yours through a decent lifespan it'll have been worth it. How much people spend and whether they spend is up to them.

McCrack

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I know you struggle with figures, its 35000 over 16 years, not all today.

You shouldn't set up a new account and try to do it all in one go, spread that 35000 out like I did, it'll take you up to retirement.

Averages 6 posts every day the past 16 years

Tis a bit sad

Millionaire only not

themouthpiece wrote: »

Jaysus, you really no nothing about cars. Keep spending money on new cars, your great for people like me.

So in a 2010 Octavia versus a 2019 Octavia at 120 KM/h please tell me how i'll survive in a 120 KM/H crash.

U better buy a bulldozer if u want to survive crashes at 120 Kmh

mfceiling

themouthpiece wrote: »

Okay lets go. I'm a very intelligent person. Math and Physics degree from NUIM

My phone cost me 130 euro, its a moto G7 power, brilliant phone with the best battery you can get.

Are you going to stay in Ireland for the rest of your life? How sad.

Very intelligent?

By the way that Motorola is a fairly shìt phone bar it's battery life.

Montage of Feck

Curious as to how one could or indeed want to retire at 45?

Guy:Incognito

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Curious as to how one could or indeed want to retire at 45?

Being being really, really , super smart and having the cash on hand to buy a 7 series in the morning, should one desire.

Montage of Feck

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Being being really, really , super smart and having the cash on hand to buy a 7 series in the morning, should one desire.

Did you sell a fangled tech startup to Mark Zuckerberg or something?

seamus

themouthpiece wrote: »

Nah, just another issue with Ireland.

To be fair, it is a well known fact that Ireland is solely responsible for supplying the rest of the planet with second hand cars, being the only country where people buy new ones.

The Rape of Lucretia

Some would say it's because I have more money than sense, but actually, it's more reasoned than that - it's validates me as a person.

I can't truly afford it either, but the pcp let's me delude myself that I can.

My low self esteem - and correctly so given the low accomplishments of my life - can be masked somewhat, in my own mind anyway, by feeling that I am projecting an image of wealth and success by driving a new car. Preferably a big one, which is almost as important as its age. The problem is that many people arent well clued up on car models and their values, so having an upto date 201 numberplate is the surest way to show that I, as a person, am worth something.

Its not that I look down on people with old cars either, although there is a subtle satisfaction. It's more that I am easily able to convince myself that they do notice my fresh car, and look up to me as more successful than them.

Bottom line, all of that is good value to me for €15k every third year. To each his own I guess. Don't judge.

Ciaranis

Guy:Incognito wrote:

Remember to deeply inhale those poo particles.

Your obsession with bodily fluids is almost endearingly childlike. You walk around in the world every day and it's filthy with other people's germs. As for poo particles, have you never used a pub, restaurant or shopping centre toilet? Grow the hell up.