Why do you feel the need to buy a new car?

andekwarhola

Wouldn't see the point of a new car but each to their own. It's not my money. My current car is 4 years old. Bought it with low mileage a year ago. Probably keep it another 5 or six years and do the same thing again.

maccored

themouthpiece wrote: »

Jaysus, you really no nothing about cars. Keep spending money on new cars, your great for people like me.

So in a 2010 Octavia versus a 2019 Octavia at 120 KM/h please tell me how i'll survive in a 120 KM/H crash.

I have a 2001 Defender - it'll hardly reach 120km p/h

elperello

I've got a bike the neighbour gave me.

Get all the exercise on the bike.

Tesco value is only for snobs, I get all I need out of the skip around the back

Penneys you spendthrift I get mine out of the clothes bank

(tell that to kids today they won't believe you)

kirving

themouthpiece wrote: »

So in a 2010 Octavia versus a 2019 Octavia at 120 KM/h please tell me how i'll survive in a 120 KM/H crash.

The radar on the 2019 model means that the car will stop itself with no input from the driver, so it is far less likely to hit something at 120kph.

In a more common, 70kph accident, I'd much perfect to be in the newer model.

anewme

2lazytogetup wrote: »

why do people buy big 'elegant' cars. ive a 1999 nissa micra 1.2l. cost me 50euros. those 2010 octavias are a complete waste of money. cost 6k. will depreciate by half every 3 years. that 1k a year!!!!

why pay for gym membership, you can stay at home and do push ups/ sit ups.

why go to a restaurant. you can buy tesco value vegetables.

why buy label clothes, you can get great clothes in penneys.

That made me laugh thinking of everyone doing push ups and press ups on the mat in the sitting room blocking the TV

NSAman

Cause I can!

Rodin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xidhx_f-ouU

This is why I buy new.

Newer Corolla vs Old Corilla in a crash test

TheAnalyst_

Rodin wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xidhx_f-ouU

This is why I buy new.

Newer Corolla vs Old Corilla in a crash test

Exactly. Road deaths are a fraction of the old days largely because of improvements to crash safey.

Whatever about buying a 3-4 year old car I think people are crazy to go around in 20 year old bangers to save probably nothing.

misterme123

Rodin wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xidhx_f-ouU

This is why I buy new.

Newer Corolla vs Old Corilla in a crash test

RIP the crash test dummy in the '98 Corolla. I hope he at least lived it large and went on lots of dummy holidays. I think I'll walk to the shop for my Lotto Millionaire raffle ticket, just to be safe.

road_high

Mike9832 wrote: »

Yes buy new or buy cheap with no depreciation

People paying 15k for out warranty cars are taking a big risk

I was burned before with a car like this. Three years old, seemed like a very clean almost new car. Cost me thousands in various repairs. If I had paid a bit more and bought new it would have been far better. Ever since that I really appreciated the pleasure, no hassle of a new car. Even if it's more expensive I think it's worth paying if you can afford it.
Friend bought a new Peugoet 208 last year under a scrappage scheme and I think coming from what they had, it was a great move as it was very affordable with all the spec, warranty and reliability of a brand new car. New cars can and do make a lot of sense- not to mention the leap in safety from what they had.

road_high

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Exactly. Road deaths are a fraction of the old days largely because of improvements to crash safey.

Whatever about buying a 3-4 year old car I think people are crazy to go around in 20 year old bangers to save probably nothing.

Yes the advances in car safety have been massive in just 20 years with Euro NCAP ratings playing a huge role. People are surviving and walking away from massive accidents that years ago they wouldn't have. Even in smaller cars now. That alone is a big plus for me- look at how the panels and doors fold like cheap tin foil. The result even in a new Yaris vs old Corolla would be similar.

teediddlyeye

New car safety tech is lightyears ahead of even 2010 models.

Take lane assist, blind spot detection, radar guided cruise control and auto collision avoidance braking. I'm sure I've missed a few.

Also Audi's presence will detect a crash before it even happens. It'll activate the seat belt pretensioners, roll up the windows, cut fuel supply if necessary.

And then after the crash the thing will ring a fcuking ambulance for you with your gps coordinates if you don't respond!

But sure according to the op I know nothing about cars if I believe that.

Nothing wrong with old cars, I drive a 1999 but if you think it's as good as a new one your deluded.

mickdw

Mad_maxx wrote: »

is a new VW Passat not well above 40 k if not close to 50 k ?

a well speced new skoda superb is over 40 k

Jesus don't be giving vw ideas.
Your typical Passat 1.6 diesel that would be the main seller is about 37k in highline spec.
There is a actually value in them when compared to a golf.

kirving

teediddlyeye wrote: »

Also Audi's presence will detect a crash before it even happens. It'll activate the seat belt pretensioners, roll up the windows, cut fuel supply if necessary.

My car, a 2013 (but released in 2010) will do all of that and more. It will even move the electric seats to a more upright (and crash friendly position) if I brake hard or swerve as it expects a crash might be imminent.

If I brake quickly enough, the car will take over and apply brakes as hard and as quickly as possible, more than I could ever do, and flash the rear hazards and brake lights automatically to warn card behind.

It will warn me if I'm too close to the car in front on the motorway, or if I'm approaching a slowing car in front of me and I haven't reacted quickly enough.

It monitors my driving habits over time, and can detect if I'm displaying characteristics of someone who may be tired, and warns me to take a brake. This is all as standard for my 2013, without the additional safety pack.

Had I bought the car new, I would have specced the full safety pack despite the additional cost.




You're right however, most cars from 2010 do not do this. The past ten years have brought advanced collision avoidance to features to prevent a crash ever happening in the first place.

The latest Audi's can detect a side impact coming and raise the suspension on that side of the car in a fraction of a second so that that floor can take more of the impact and protect the occupants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh6xFg8ypDQ

It will even use its rearward facing radar or ultrasonics to search for other cars and cyclists, and will prevent you from opening the door in front of them.

Ubbquittious

Modern cars don't do much for me and I don't feel the need to buy a new one. Even after driving the most modern of yokes I am always relieved to sit back into my trusty Peugeot that is nearly 30 years old or no frills hilux.

I don't give a fiddlers about what latest tech they cram into new cars. I am a tech head myself but when I'm on the road all that goes out the window and I have no desire for any of it.

Though if I had a few bob to spare I wouldn't mind a new Ariel or Caterham or TVR but those don't depreciate anywhere near as quick as normal yokes. Really don't see the point in buying a new Tucson curdy when donedeal is filled with used one.

People aren't very adventurous. Really instead of spending silly money to replace a perfectly servicible car they should look into buying an auld Cessna or something. Takes a bit of effort to get the license but they'll have the last laugh when they're looking down onto some congested motorway below. Nearly every whole blessed fecker wants to fly so why wait until you're nearly dead and it will be too late at that point.

Getting a boat is also a good option if you are close to the coast. People get stuck into this notion that they have to splurge on upgrading their car and they overlook all the other modes of transport. Silly peeps.

elperello

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Getting a boat is also a good option if you are close to the coast. People get stuck into this notion that they have to splurge on upgrading their car and they overlook all the other modes of transport. Silly peeps.

Never mind the coast start digging canals instead of motorways.

Mad_maxx

mickdw wrote: »

Jesus don't be giving vw ideas.
Your typical Passat 1.6 diesel that would be the main seller is about 37k in highline spec.
There is a actually value in them when compared to a golf.

1. 6 is way too small for a car that size IMO

FAMLEE

Mad_maxx wrote: »

1. 6 is way too small for a car that size IMO

Agree, 2 litre minimum on an exec car such as passat. Keep the 1.6's for the polos

Millionaire only not

Since this post started the guys promoting new cars are obsessed with crashing !
Omg never bought a Car with the idea of crashing - mental

tuxy

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Since this post started the guys promoting new cars are obsessed with crashing !
Omg never bought a Car with the idea of crashing - mental

Any car that does not have lane tracking is complete death trap!

FAMLEE

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Since this post started the guys promoting new cars are obsessed with crashing !
Omg never bought a Car with the idea of crashing - mental

Also agree, id jump in an 83 corolla or a 2019 corolla.. not having the mentality that i'm going to crash

FAMLEE

tuxy wrote: »

Any car that does not have lane tracking is complete death trap!

Ah yes, a computer can see/judge the road ahead better than i can...

Ubbquittious

If you think you're going to crash take it handy. If you're taking it handy you don't need an expensive car

Who thinks they’re going to crash? Yet there are lots of crashes.

elperello

Ubbquittious wrote: »

If you think you're going to crash take it handy. If you're taking it handy you don't need an expensive car

OK I take your word you're taking it handy.
Grand so far....
Round the bend here comes a speeding lunatic who hasn't got the email.
Your move....

teediddlyeye

elperello wrote: »

OK I take your word you're taking it handy.
Grand so far....
Round the bend here comes a speeding lunatic who hasn't got the email.
Your move....

Ah yes. "Taking it handy" the only reasonable solution to Irish road safety.

I'd say all the unfortunate that have passed away on Irish roads all planned to crash then and weren't "taking it handy"?

I believe that if airbags, seatbelts, abs, esp were optional extras nobody in Ireland would buy them, cause "sure it'll be grand just take it handy".

Ubbquittious

elperello wrote: »

OK I take your word you're taking it handy.
Grand so far....
Round the bend here comes a speeding lunatic who hasn't got the email.
Your move....

I''ve met a few of these in my day and avoided them all

elperello

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I''ve met a few of these in my day and avoided them all

Fair play you obviously graduated summa cum laude at Defensive Driving School.
However the day your luck runs out would you rather have all the modern bells and whistles or not?

An Ri rua

anewme wrote: »

That made me laugh thinking of everyone doing push ups and press ups on the mat in the sitting room blocking the TV

It's horses for courses. Nothing wrong with a new car, or an old one. Plenty wrong with drivers who rely on such technology though. A bit like relying on sensors to tell you an engine needs oil. Dipstick, you dipstick. Or young teachers using whiteboards but utterly flummoxed when the net goes down.
I run an 06 CRV, 215k miles, serviced to the Nth degree and sporting the very best in premium tyre technology and light upgrades. Are new vehicles better? Undoubtedly. But not euro for euro. No chance.

Oh, and I do Hindu press-ups and other functional exercises in the living room for years now. Doorway gym for pull-ups also. And chop logs with a sledge and diamond. Cos I like graft after sitting at an inhuman desk all day. You're either going to work out or you're not. Paying someone for permission isn't less funny. It's just more expensive and time wasting.

New company cars, IMO, are excellent. New utility vehicles or for daily driving?? I couldn't fathom it. What a waste.

fussyonion

I drive an 11 year old Peugeot. It's grand. If I could afford a new car, I would buy one. Why not? But I certainly don't begrudge anyone buying a new motor if they can afford it. Your post stinks of jealousy, tbh.

Needles73

“ I run an 06 CRV, 215k miles, serviced to the Nth degree and sporting the very best in premium tyre technology and light upgrades......”
Tell me more about these light upgrades.

anewme

An Ri rua wrote: »

It's horses for courses. Nothing wrong with a new car, or an old one. Plenty wrong with drivers who rely on such technology though. A bit like relying on sensors to tell you an engine needs oil. Dipstick, you dipstick. Or young teachers using whiteboards but utterly flummoxed when the net goes down.
I run an 06 CRV, 215k miles, serviced to the Nth degree and sporting the very best in premium tyre technology and light upgrades. Are new vehicles better? Undoubtedly. But not euro for euro. No chance.

Oh, and I do Hindu press-ups and other functional exercises in the living room for years now. Doorway gym for pull-ups also. And chop logs with a sledge and diamond. Cos I like graft after sitting at an inhuman desk all day. You're either going to work out or you're not. Paying someone for permission isn't less funny. It's just more expensive and time wasting.

New company cars, IMO, are excellent. New utility vehicles or for daily driving?? I couldn't fathom it. What a waste.

Driving an 06 Honda CRV and doing Hindu push ups In a door way would not really suit me. In fact, I’ve no ldea what a Hindu push up is, but if you enjoy it, that’s great!

Dakota Dan

themouthpiece wrote: »

I have a 2010 Skoda Octvaia Elegance 1.6 TDI for the last two years and cost me 6K. I never had an issue with the car and is going like its new.

It's the biggest depreciating asset you can ever own and a complete and utter waste of money.

Would you not rather travel or spend on stuff more important?

Just a bit of contrast, I’ve a 07 Mazda 6 on that silly two tier tax system, fully paid for. It was doing 38-40 mpg but down to 31 mpg now. It’s costing around 6k a year to keep on the road. You have to draw the little be somewhere.

The One Doctor

Have an 05 Prius. Running great. Still efficient. More technology than many modern cars. Suck it.

Dakota Dan

The One Doctor wrote: »

Have an 05 Prius. Running great. Still efficient. More technology than many modern cars. Suck it.

I was with you until you said suck it, ya childish numpty.

Heckler

Jesus lads. Stopping the mouthpiece troll.

The Rape of Lucretia

anewme wrote: »

In fact, I’ve no ldea what a Hindu push up is

Its like an old king clancy, but with Kheer.

An Ri rua

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its like an old king clancy, but with Kheer.

Less of that foreign claptrap. This is an honest to God North Tipperary (North Riding, I grant you) Hindu press up.

themouthpiece

themouthpiece wrote: »

I have a 2010 Skoda Octvaia Elegance 1.6 TDI for the last two years and cost me 6K. I never had an issue with the car and is going like its new.

It's the biggest depreciating asset you can ever own and a complete and utter waste of money.

Would you not rather travel or spend on stuff more important?

I love telling people that me and my girlfriends have an Audi a Merc and a BMW.

When I put it like that it sounds like we must be the richest family in the area. Until I mention how old the cars are

Me and the gfs intend to drive these cars into the ground before we ever buy a new second hand one

Bigdig69

themouthpiece wrote: »

I have a 2010 Skoda Octvaia Elegance 1.6 TDI for the last two years and cost me 6K. I never had an issue with the car and is going like its new.

It's the biggest depreciating asset you can ever own and a complete and utter waste of money.

hmmmm....so why waste 6,000?:pac:

Mike9832

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Just a bit of contrast, I’ve a 07 Mazda 6 on that silly two tier tax system, fully paid for. It was doing 38-40 mpg but down to 31 mpg now. It’s costing around 6k a year to keep on the road. You have to draw the little be somewhere.

Very true

How much of that 6k would be saved in a newer car?

If you buy brand new your easily looking at 6k depreciation a year on a similar car, even a 3 year old yoke is probably 3k a year depreciation.

My 15 year old car cost about 800e tax and 1000e maintenance age related, 1.8k a year

Stuff like tyres, servicing, insurance, diesel etc would be similar in a new car/not a whole lot cheaper, current car is doing 45mpg

Maybe all in with longer servicing, cheaper insurance and 60mpg diesel car I might get to a 3k saving a year max, 4k saving if I buy an electric car

I'm stuggling to think of something I could get for 3/4k or less of depreciation a year with a manufacture warranty, electric car maybe but then I would have to deal with crap unreliable/slow chargers and horrible range of less than 200km

elperello

Mike9832 wrote: »

Very true

How much of that 6k would be saved in a newer car?

If you buy brand new your easily looking at 6k depreciation a year on a similar car, even a 3 year old yoke is probably 3k a year depreciation.

My 15 year old car cost about 800e tax and 1000e maintenance age related, 1.8k a year

Stuff like tyres, servicing, insurance, diesel etc would be similar in a new car/not a whole lot cheaper, current car is doing 45mpg

Maybe all in with longer servicing, cheaper insurance and 60mpg diesel car I might get to a 3k saving a year max, 4k saving if I buy an electric car

I'm stuggling to think of something I could get for 3/4k or less of depreciation a year with a manufacture warranty, electric car maybe but then I would have to deal with crap unreliable/slow chargers and horrible range of less than 200km

The Mazda is now 13 years old so lets just say for the sake of argument he bought a new car for €26,000 and kept it for 13 years.

It would then be the same age as the Mazda is now with depreciation of €2000 a year assuming he couldn't get anything for it then.