Farmed salmon- world’s most toxic food

Snow Garden

Factory ships are devastating our mackerel stocks now. They hoover them up and then mulch them for pet food and fertilisers. Only a small proportion of the mackerel are kept for human consumption. It's a shame.

malinheader

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/just-three-or-four-in-100-wild-salmon-return-to-irish-waters-1.3875588

Natural salmon stocks totally f*cked in ireland too. I dont know how anyone can eat salmon these days. I wish the EU would come together and put a moratorium on most kinds of fishing for a few years to let it restock, like they did in Newfoundland after almost obliterating the cod stocks there.

Sad to say but the stocks are that bad I fear it might be to late. You would need to stop all the pelagic fleets around our coasts at certain times of year which will never happen then try and persuade all the countries which partake in shrimp and krill fishing to stop which again will never happen. Try and stop fish escaping from cages on farms then we have a massive issue of the quality of our rivers which I think is even be a bigger issue than all above.we have seriously sat back and let our water ways be destroyed slurry, nitrates, silage spill off, untreated waste, and septic systems not working properly the list is endless. The obliteration of our salmon will be due to what most call progress.

Snow Garden

malinheader wrote: »

Sad to say but the stocks are that bad I fear it might be to late. You would need to stop all the pelagic fleets around our coasts at certain times of year which will never happen then try and persuade all the countries which partake in shrimp and krill fishing to stop which again will never happen. Try and stop fish escaping from cages on farms then we have a massive issue of the quality of our rivers which I think is even be a bigger issue than all above.we have seriously sat back and let our water ways be destroyed slurry, nitrates, silage spill off, untreated waste, and septic systems not working properly the list is endless. The obliteration of our salmon will be due to what most call progress.

Spot on. I don't think there will be any wild salmon in Ireland by 2030.
Sadly I will probably never taste salmon again.

McCrack

Can anyone recommend a fish monger that you can actually get wild salmon in, seems farmed stuff is everywhere

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McCrack wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a fish monger that you can actually get wild salmon in, seems farmed stuff is everywhere

At this time of year you will not get fresh wild Irish salmon anywhere. Commercial fishing for wild salmon is heavily restricted - it is only in the summer months and only on certain days and certain locations at that. So it is now a luxury product and only available at some fish shops and some restaurants during the summer (and at a price).


You can get smoked wild Irish salmon from specialist small producers (eg, Hedermans or the Burren Smokehouse) - it is much superior to smoked farmed salmon. But with the latter, the organic product (such as from Clare Island) is much superior to the generic stuff.

Thelonious Monk

Also with prawns you cant get european prawns as far as i know, even the ones in Wrights in Dublin are from india, ive asked a few times.
Look up prawn farming in the countries we import them from, its absolutely devastating, another thing i cant bring myself to eat any more.

malinheader

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Also with prawns you cant get european prawns as far as i know, even the ones in Wrights in Dublin are from india, ive asked a few times.
Look up prawn farming in the countries we import them from, its absolutely devastating, another thing i cant bring myself to eat any more.

Aye the ones you get in the restaurant or hotel in your prawn cocktail totally tasteless and the size of a maggot. Not what i would call a prawn.

Thelonious Monk

malinheader wrote: »

Aye the ones you get in the restaurant or hotel in your prawn cocktail totally tasteless and the size of a maggot. Not what i would call a prawn.

Well all the big ones are also from bangladesh, india, vietnam, guatemala etc.

Hoboo

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Also with prawns you cant get european prawns as far as i know, even the ones in Wrights in Dublin are from india, ive asked a few times.
Look up prawn farming in the countries we import them from, its absolutely devastating, another thing i cant bring myself to eat any more.

Not sure where you got that from, plenty of prawns in Irish waters, Clogherhead has an annual prawn festival. Used to get them by the box load straight off the boats.

LoughNeagh2017

My uncle is a fisherman and the fish get sold to Amsterdam, locals don't even eat the fish caught in Ulsters lough any more. The lough is the reason why we exist today, probably the reason why the Ui Neill of Inishowen moved down to central Ulster in the 1000s, it is closely linked with our history as Ulster creatures.

I read that only a handful of restaurants in Northern Ireland serve local fish. It is funny because insuferable humans always go on about how they are proud Ulsterman and other nonsense yet they dine with their foreign fish, Ulster fish isn't good enough for them.
Then there are the supermarkets, Tesco and Lidl always have their "proud Northern Irish" produce posters up that make my blood boil, why are all you fish foreign then Tesco? Why not help the local peasant fishermen?

There are many new rules imposed on the fishermen and they can easily be brought to court for something like not marking their buoys clearly enough with their ID number or catching fish that are a bit too young, they are all out to get the peasants just like society as a whole.

Thelonious Monk

Hoboo wrote: »

Not sure where you got that from, plenty of prawns in Irish waters, Clogherhead has an annual prawn festival. Used to get them by the box load straight off the boats.

There are langoustines, or Dublin Bay Prawns, that look like mini lobsters, but they're the only ones in Irish waters. You don't really see them in supermarkets or even on menus that often, it's all imported farmed prawns.

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Hoboo wrote: »

Not sure where you got that from, plenty of prawns in Irish waters, Clogherhead has an annual prawn festival. Used to get them by the box load straight off the boats.

Totally - most good fish shops stock them. Irish boats have a quota for them. And frozen north atlantic prawns are widely available in supermarkets, so need to buy asian ones.

scamalert

i wouldnt see this as massive local country issue, many irish given we live in an island dont actually eat much fish, even fever have actually skills to prepare it.


salmon in general is expensive close to likes of steak, theres frozen cod fish fingers etc, but seems in general demand isnt huge nor consumption here.


the issue with toxicity been out few years now, but not amazed if chinese have their food it the business and way fish are farmed its a death poll, not natural - could be said about many foods, but as someone who can eat it once every few months, id rather opt in for tuna sunflover can mixed with a bit of corn and mayo, imagine that single tin gives enough omega vitamins for a month.

Hoboo

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

There are langoustines, or Dublin Bay Prawns, that look like mini lobsters, but they're the only ones in Irish waters. You don't really see them in supermarkets or even on menus that often, it's all imported farmed prawns.

Sorry, yes, shouldn't have said Irish waters.....but they're coming off Irish boats from the north Atlantic or wherever they get them. Definitely prawns, not langoustine.

Ubbquittious

Mowi who are a mahoosive publicly traded conglohommerate from Norway had their license discontinued for overstocking a salmon farm in Kerry not so long ago. I wonder to what extent these farms are monitored in Ireland. Mowi owns such authentic sounding brands as the "Irish organic salmon company". Organic entails simply fooking a load of so-called organic fish food into a crowded plastic tub hanging off the coast.

Nearly all salmon that you buy is farmed, there are just too many people eating salmon for it to all be wild.