General Premier League Thread 2019-20

Drumpot

The White Wolf

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Did anyone want Klopp out? I genuinely cannot recall any real dissent even if there were quibbles.

Anyway Klopp won two BL titles and that meant he knew how to win a big league, OGS has won in Norway. Just not the same thing.

I don't recall myself....I do recall being dismayed at times over the lack of backbone in the team, but never wanted him sacked because I knew we were lucky to have him.

I remember being burned all too well by wanting Rafa gone only to get Hodgson as a replacement.

noodler

bangkok wrote: »

There was plenty of liverpool fans who wanted klopp gone as few years ago. They look pretty foolish now

Strange

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I don't think you know what the word plenty means.

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pjohnson

gimli2112 wrote: »

I'm struggling to see the case for Ole, at least from a Utd perspective. The only people defending him are you and his mates. If Liverpool fans are agreeing with you, surely that's a sign?
I should say I actually thought he was a good appointment, he had them on a 12 win streak or something but once he was made permanent the wheels came off.

Tbf at this point not even the Liverpool fans are agreeing with Bangkok. While they both might want Ole to stay, the Liverpool fans are admitting that they want him to stay due to how awful he is rather than how good he is.

marklazarcovic

pjohnson wrote: »

Tbf at this point not even the Liverpool fans are agreeing with Bangkok. While they both might want Ole to stay, the Liverpool fans are admitting that they want him to stay due to how awful he is rather than how good he is.

As a Liverpool fan I agree wholeheartedly with Bangkok,and sincerely hope the utd board does/would too.

bangkok

pjohnson wrote: »

Tbf at this point not even the Liverpool fans are agreeing with Bangkok. While they both might want Ole to stay, the Liverpool fans are admitting that they want him to stay due to how awful he is rather than how good he is.

Easy for liverpool fans to slag now they are finally going to win their first league title.

TitianGerm

bangkok wrote: »

Easy for liverpool fans to slag now they are finally going to win their first league title.

Even if Liverpool weren't going to win the league this year we'd be laughing at the ineptitude of Ole.

bangkok

TitianGerm wrote: »

Even if Liverpool weren't going to win the league this year we'd be laughing at the ineptitude of Ole.

But he could still get the better of pep and jose recently.....

Backstreet Moyes

6 wrote: »

Plenty?...

Same as his point about clean sheets earlier as a reason for Ole to stay

He just makes statements and when called out as a liar he moves on to the next one and hope people forget

The_Kew_Tour

Alan Little was in charge of York when they beat United over too legs in 1995

Did that mean he had the Tactical Masterclass of Fergie?

Sweet Jesus.

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

But he could still get the better of pep and jose recently.....

Nigel Pearson made a mockery of Ole a few weeks ago maybe he should get the United job

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Same as his point about clean sheets earlier as a reason for Ole to stay

He just makes statements and when called out as a liar he moves on to the next one and hope people forget

A liar? What did i lie about. Plenty of lies spouted out by others.

.G.

gimli2112 wrote: »

I'm struggling to see the case for Ole, at least from a Utd perspective. The only people defending him are you and his mates. If Liverpool fans are agreeing with you, surely that's a sign?
I should say I actually thought he was a good appointment, he had them on a 12 win streak or something but once he was made permanent the wheels came off.

The funniest part of the whole thing was the wheels had already come off for a few games and then they made him permanent. Its like Woodward is a closet LFC fan on a covert sabotage mission.

Doing a great job, Ed.

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

A liar? What did i lie about. Plenty of lies spouted out by others.

That United keep Plenty of clean sheets.

Utopia Parkway

bangkok wrote: »

There was plenty of liverpool fans who wanted klopp gone as few years ago. They look pretty foolish now

I can't remember any significant Klopp out movement at Liverpool. Not counting a few cranks on social media.

Harry Palmr

bangkok wrote: »

Easy for liverpool fans to slag now they are finally going to win their first league title.

We've been laughing at Utd since 2013/14, OGS is simply the latest manifestation of institutional mediocrity

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

A liar? What did i lie about. Plenty of lies spouted out by others.

You said United keep plenty of clean sheets which was a lie

You said plenty of Liverpool fans wanted Klopp out which is another lie

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

You said United keep plenty of clean sheets which was a lie

You said plenty of Liverpool fans wanted Klopp out which is another lie

In the last 8 games utd have had 4 clean sheets. Is that not plenty?

And there was plenty of pool fans who wanted klopp out

giveitholly

bangkok wrote: »

In the last 8 games utd have had 4 clean sheets. Is that not plenty?

And there was plenty of pool fans who wanted klopp out

So about 50% is plenty,fair enough but are you saying 50% of liverpool fans wanted klopp out?

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

You said United keep plenty of clean sheets which was a lie

You said plenty of Liverpool fans wanted Klopp out which is another lie

What about your lie ole being the worst manager in utds history?

That is the biggest lie of the lot

Damien360

bangkok wrote: »

In the last 8 games utd have had 4 clean sheets. Is that not plenty?

And there was plenty of pool fans who wanted klopp out

I honestly don't remember that. The running joke was/is FSG out. Nobody with any modicum of sense in Liverpool actually wants that.

TitianGerm

bangkok wrote: »

What about your lie ole being the worst manager in utds history?

That is the biggest lie of the lot

Who was actually worse than him?

Edit: Ole win rate is 27% at United. It was 30% at Cardiff :pac:

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

In the last 8 games utd have had 4 clean sheets. Is that not plenty?

And there was plenty of pool fans who wanted klopp out

Why pick 8 games and not the season?

Oh I wonder....

PhlegmyMoses

TitianGerm wrote: »

Who was actually worse than him?

Edit: Ole win rate is 27% at United. It was 30% at Cardiff :pac:

Your number is definitely wrong.

bangkok

TitianGerm wrote: »

Who was actually worse than him?

Edit: Ole win rate is 27% at United. It was 30% at Cardiff :pac:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers

TitianGerm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Your number is definitely wrong.

https://twitter.com/AndyRobUnited/status/1213546207416590338?s=19

Just saw it here.

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

What about your lie ole being the worst manager in utds history?

That is the biggest lie of the lot

He has a 29% win rate who has a worse record than that?

Compare that to the last manager you wanted out who had a 58% win rate

Then tell me how he is turning things around

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

He has a 29% win rate who has a worse record than that?

Compare that to the last manager you wanted out who had a 58% win rate

Then tell me how he is turning things around

Are you only counting league games now to suit the agenda? What about all the other cup games etc.

You said he was the worst manager in utd history. That is a blatant lie

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

Are you only counting league games now to suit the agenda? What about all the other cup games etc.

You said he was the worst manager in utd history. That is a blatant lie

Bit like you picking 8 games for recent CS eh?

Trigger

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyRobUnited/status/1213546207416590338?s=19

Just saw it here.

Im no Ole defender but thats just in the league?

His overall win % as permanent manager is 41%
Won 17 from 41 games

Including his stint as caretaker its 51%
Won 31 from 60

Still want him gone as that's not good enough either

gimli2112

bangkok wrote: »

In the last 8 games utd have had 4 clean sheets. Is that not plenty?

And there was plenty of pool fans who wanted klopp out

You do know just because you say something doesn't mean it's true? Genuine question.

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

He has a 29% win rate who has a worse record than that?

Compare that to the last manager you wanted out who had a 58% win rate

Then tell me how he is turning things around

Also more lies to make ole look bad. You pick joses overall record and compare it to oles league record. And you call me a liar.

TitianGerm

Trigger wrote: »

Im no Ole defender but thats just in the league?

His overall win % as permanent manager is 41%
Won 17 from 41 games

Including his stint as caretaker its 51%
Won 31 from 60

Still want him gone as that's not good enough either

Didn't realize it was just league games. Assumed it was all. My apologies.

PhlegmyMoses

TitianGerm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyRobUnited/status/1213546207416590338?s=19

Just saw it here.

Permanent manager. It is a deliberate framing of a stat. Do whatever you want, but it is a dishonest way of framing his time at United

bangkok

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Bit like you picking 8 games for recent CS eh?

Clean sheet v chelsea and leicester as well

Guy:Incognito

bangkok wrote: »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers

All good, hes only the worst in 40 years, joint with Big Ron.

Trigger

bangkok wrote: »

Also more lies to make ole look bad. You pick joses overall record and compare it to oles league record. And you call me a liar.

Jose's league record 53%
Oles league record 29%

Ole is definitely making an impact there..

Only it's the wrong impact!

bangkok

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

All good, hes only the worst in 40 years, joint with Big Ron.

Was a lie to say he was worst manager in utd history. He has a win % of 50%

Guy:Incognito

bangkok wrote: »

Was a lie to say he was worst manager in utd history. He has a win % of 50%

Suppose not being the worst in history is something to cling to.........

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

Clean sheet v chelsea and leicester as well

Randomly picking when you got CS doesn't hide the fact they still have far more games without a CS. So this 'Plenty' thing is a joke.

A quick look at Flashscore even shows this:

Clean Sheets United have:
Wolves
Burnley
Colchester
AZ Alkmaar


Teams they conceded against:

City
Everton
Watford
Newcastle
Arsenal

That's without me scrolling through more games and posting but a quick look and they conceded pretty much every game excluding a couple. Oh and of course the double CS against world beater Partizan

bangkok

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Suppose not being the worst in history is something to cling to.........

I was replying to nuts who was making up lies

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

I was replying to nuts who was making up lies

What about the lies you're sprouting which you seem to accept as truth?

LuckyLloyd

bangkok wrote: »

There was plenty of liverpool fans who wanted klopp gone as few years ago. They look pretty foolish now

Wha?!!

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

I was replying to nuts who was making up lies

I put up the most recent stat I found on twitter

I can now admit I got the percentage wrong but even with the correct figure he is the worst manager in 50 years

Now can you admit you lied about Liverpool fans

Dr. Bre

No Liverpool fan wanted Klopp sacked at any stage

gimli2112

I'm starting to realise why the Utd thread is no longer so busy

Jurgen The German

gimli2112 wrote: »

I'm starting to realise why the Utd thread is no longer so busy

pjohnson

Jurgen The German wrote: »

And when the questions get too hard to answer.

Shanotheslayer

Still awaiting for the reply which I'll doubt I'll get