General Premier League Thread 2019-20

Trigger

bangkok wrote: »

No its a good match and there is progression. He needs a few more players though

:pac:

pjohnson

Trigger wrote: »

:pac:

I dont really know what I expected.

Guess I'm out of practice aswell :pac:

Cork Boy 53

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Pogba might. Unless Utd drop to anywhere near the relegation places Ole will be going nowhere.

I've seen that written a few times. Why isn't he going anywhere? If he's not up to scratch they'll surely get rid?

Maybe Utd are just waiting until the summer when Poch can sign without financial penalty (afaik).

tanko

This is it wrote: »

Did they interview Ole yet?

Did he give an interview, what was today's excuse??

MD1990

Maguire for 80m is incredible business by Leicester.

They are better without him.

bangkok

rob316 wrote: »

If he won't play what's the point of keeping your "best" midfielder?

Hes injured?

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

Hes injured?

Stevie wonder could see he's not injured

8-10

rob316 wrote: »

If he won't play what's the point of keeping your "best" midfielder?

He has a knock apparently keeping him out of today's squad.

rob316

bangkok wrote: »

Hes injured?

Don't be stupid of course he's not injured. He's refusing to play

Cantona's Collars

tanko wrote: »

Did he give an interview, what was today's excuse??

3 minutes of smiling and trotting the same lines as before.
Worked hard, didn't get the breaks, players are fitter now, building something..... blah blah blah.

Van Persie right to call him out.

KathleenGrant

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Van Persie right to call him out.

Yeah cos he never acted like that at Arsenal.

tanko

MD1990 wrote: »

Maguire for 80m is incredible business by Leicester.

They are better without him.

It just shows how rubbish the standard of Soccer was in the World Cup when the likes of Harry Maguire, Ashley Young and Eric Dier are in a team that almost reaches the final.

sabat

MD1990 wrote: »

Maguire for 80m is incredible business by Leicester.

They are better without him.

£80M and the world's most expensive defender was utterly insane. Is he even in the top forty centre-halves in the world?

bangkok

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

3 minutes of smiling and trotting the same lines as before.
Worked hard, didn't get the breaks, players are fitter now, building something..... blah blah blah.

Van Persie right to call him out.

Van persie? You couldnt have used a worse example

bangkok

rob316 wrote: »

Don't be stupid of course he's not injured. He's refusing to play

Source?

Shanotheslayer

bangkok wrote: »

Source?

Common sense

Fitz*

Only saw the last 30 mins of the game and MOTD.

Maguire was poor for the goal, played Arsenal onside even though he could see the offside line.

https://twitter.com/JohnMcMah0n/status/1212466923713318913?s=19

2-0 down and chasing goals, and the RB was very poor going forward again. There was no attacking outlet down that wing. Constantly losing the ball, or just passing it backwards.

I counted at least twice he just kicked the ball over the end line attempting to dribble but heavy touches losing the ball, and one dive into the box. Including this example.

https://twitter.com/UsmanA__/status/1212488914218422272?s=19

Cantona's Collars

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

3 minutes of smiling and trotting the same lines as before.
Worked hard, didn't get the breaks, players are fitter now, building something..... blah blah blah.

Van Persie right to call him out.

Fair play. And rightfully so.

A player like RVP who gave his all to united knows this

A league winner

MD1990

Pogba is having an operation.

He is going some lengths if he is faking an injury.

Seems like Man Utd medical staff have handled his injury badly. Being brought back too early.

MD1990

FitzShane wrote: »

Only saw the last 30 mins of the game and MOTD.

Maguire was poor for the goal, played Arsenal onside even though he could see the offside line.

https://twitter.com/JohnMcMah0n/status/1212466923713318913?s=19

2-0 down and chasing goals, and the RB was very poor going forward again. There was no attacking outlet down that wing. Constantly losing the ball, or just passing it backwards.

I counted at least twice he just kicked the ball over the end line attempting to dribble but heavy touches losing the ball, and one dive into the box. Including this example.

https://twitter.com/UsmanA__/status/1212488914218422272?s=19

Maguire isnt even that strong for someone at 100kg.

Lacazette out muscled him in the first half so has Salah in the past.
No idea how he is Man Utd captain. Bailly is a better CB.

bangkok

MD1990 wrote: »

Pogba is having an operation.

He is going some lengths if he is faking an injury.

Seems like Man Utd medical staff have handled his injury badly. Being brought back too early.

He came back to early in the arsenal game at home. Going by some comments he is playing friendly games, full basketball games etc... pure sh1t

Quazzie

MD1990 wrote: »

Pogba is having an operation.

He is going some lengths if he is faking an injury.

Seems like Man Utd medical staff have handled his injury badly. Being brought back too early.

Didn't he just play about a week ago?

MD1990

Quazzie wrote: »

Didn't he just play about a week ago?

yes and now needs an operation so he was brought back too early from his injury.

poor from Man Utds medical staff.

but so much incompetence at the club it's probably not a huge surprise

bangkok

Quazzie wrote: »

Didn't he just play about a week ago?

Yes he did and he is injured again.

Im not sure what the issue is really

Cantona's Collars

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Fair play. And rightfully so.

A player like RVP who gave his all to united knows this

A league winner

Ah but some people like moving goal posts and probably didn't even listen to what Van Persie actually said as they were too busy being contrarian here.

Ole fecking laughing while looking at replays of the goals and the guy who wasn't happy with that is the target instead.

KathleenGrant

RVP gave his all to Utd for a whole 9 months!! Please, I have had longer pregnancies than he gave to Utd.

KathleenGrant

KathleenGrant wrote: »

RVP gave his all to Utd for a whole 9 months!! Please, I have had longer pregnancies.

Only won the league single handedly

Not bad for 9 months

KathleenGrant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Only won the league single handedly

Not bad for 9 months

He didn't win it single handedly if he was capable of that he would have won it before that.

pjohnson

KathleenGrant wrote: »

RVP gave his all to Utd for a whole 9 months!! Please, I have had longer pregnancies than he gave to Utd.

About 8 months more than Pogba has.....

tanko

Filthy tackle by Ben Mee, he knew exactly what he was doing there. He got the ball so it's all grand, typical Burnley tackle.

joe_99

Ole says it's Pogba's people who says he needs an operation. Why the hell aren't Utd's people looking after him. They pay his wages and his massive transfer fee. Very strange.

bangkok

KathleenGrant wrote: »

He didn't win it single handedly if he was capable of that he would have won it before that.

Best reply of the year

pjohnson

joe_99 wrote: »

Ole says it's Pogba's people who says he needs an operation. Why the hell aren't Utd's people looking after him. They pay his wages and his massive transfer fee. Very strange.

Pogba is allowed do what he wants when he wants and some United fans happily accept this #FreePogba

Cantona's Collars

KathleenGrant wrote: »

RVP gave his all to Utd for a whole 9 months!! Please, I have had longer pregnancies than he gave to Utd.

Did you listen to his and Rio's comments?

He was 100% right in what he said,after being schooled by Arsenal,Ole stood in front of the cameras smiling,he asked why wasn't he angry.
Van Persie was a prick when he played,but in a good way,just like Keane,Viera,Cantona. He has that streak that made him hate losing and the opposition hated them but grudgingly admired them. Imagine any of them watching their manager do that after a game that they lost so insipidly.
Compare that to the players at United now and even Ole who carry on as if everything is fine.

KathleenGrant

KathleenGrant wrote: »

He didn't win it single handedly if he was capable of that he would have won it before that.

He only won the golden boot too

A nothing player bill

Cantona's Collars

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Only won the league single handedly

Not bad for 9 months

And Rio told a story of Ferguson calling the midfield in to a meeting, telling them of RVP making runs and if none of them played the ball in for those runs they were dropped.
Too many fellas in the comfort zone at United now and no competition for places as all the back up is either over the hill or young lads.

doc_17

Let’s keep OGS at the wheel. 39 points from his last 30 games. He’s doing great. D spending big money too. And Pogba is taking the p*ss out of him and the club. And if Pogba was scoring 20/30 goals or setting up the same you could, maybe, forgive them. But he isn’t. Utd are losing their dignity with him. And their money. And their self respect.

KathleenGrant

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Did you listen to his and Rio's comments?

He was 100% right in what he said,after being schooled by Arsenal,Ole stood in front of the cameras smiling,he asked why wasn't he angry.
Van Persie was a prick when he played,but in a good way,just like Keane,Viera,Cantona. He has that streak that made him hate losing and the opposition hated them but grudgingly admired them. Imagine any of them watching their manager do that after a game that they lost so insipidly.
Compare that to the players at United now and even Ole who carry on as if everything is fine.

Van Persie went through his own hissy fit ways back in the day when he didn't win a title at Arsenal. I seem to remember a few times he didn't exactly give his all himself. Easy give your all to Utd, to burst your egg-bag for one year to win what you never did
That's all I said. I never mentioned Rio who I do think gave his all for a lot longer than that medal chased.

bangkok

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He only won the golden boot too

A nothing player bill

She didnt say that, but typical you post a smart reply

KathleenGrant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He only won the golden boot too

A nothing player bill

He won the golden boot the season before too or didn't you know that.....?

KathleenGrant

KathleenGrant wrote: »

He won the golden boot the season before too or didn't you know that.....?

He did for Arsenal yes, thanks for pointing that out

Indicates dedication regardless of desire to win

KathleenGrant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He did for Arsenal yes, thanks for pointing that out

Indicates dedication regardless of desire to win

Which makes bull**** of his "giving his all for Utd" claim then. He was a professional footballer doing his job and trying to get something for himself. What he did was not for Utd.

Cantona's Collars

KathleenGrant wrote: »

Which makes bull**** of his "giving his all for Utd" claim then. He was a professional footballer doing his job and trying to get something for himself. What he did was not for Utd.

Your argument is invalid just by comparing him to the likes of Lingard,Pogba, Pereira,Shaw.
If they put in half the effort Van Persie did at United then we might see some different results in matches.
Professional footballers not doing their jobs,if they worked in Lidl and put in the same effort they'd be sacked. Yet they are paid hundreds of thousands a week for what?

Why the hate for him and his speaking the truth,what if another pundit said it such as Neville, Carragher, Robbie Earle or whoever? It'd still be a valid point,for some reason because Van Persie who won a league at United said it yourself and Bangkok have a problem with it.
The point of why he said what he did has been completely ignored, I thought you were better than that.

KathleenGrant

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Your argument is invalid just by comparing him to the likes of Lingard,Pogba, Pereira,Shaw.
If they put in half the effort Van Persie did at United then we might see some different results in matches.
Professional footballers not doing their jobs,if they worked in Lidl and put in the same effort they'd be sacked. Yet they are paid hundreds of thousands a week for what?

Why the hate for him and his speaking the truth,what if another pundit said it such as Neville, Carragher, Robbie Earle or whoever? It'd still be a valid point,for some reason because Van Persie who won a league at United said it yourself and Bangkok have a problem with it.
The point of why he said what he did has been completely ignored, I thought you were better than that.

You thought I was better than that??? Sure what do you know of me???? If you knew me at all you would know it has nothing to do with him winning at Utd. I am not anti-Utd. It's the whole "RVP so right to call him out on his attitude" when his own attitude was not always sterling himself. If someone said pundits right to question his attitude be fine. But RVP? He is no Ryan Giggs or Roy Keane.

~Rebel~

KathleenGrant wrote: »

You thought I was better than that??? Sure what do you know of me???? If you knew me at all you would know it has nothing to do with him winning at Utd. I am not anti-Utd. It's the whole "RVP so right to call him out on his attitude" when his own attitude was not always sterling himself. If someone said pundits right to question his attitude be fine. But RVP? He is no Ryan Giggs or Roy Keane.

Even if your opinion is that RVP was no better, does it make him wrong? I mean, everyone's a hypocrite to some extent. And in actual fact, someone who was perhaps guilty of a certain type of behavior in their past might even be better placed to spot it in others. (though i've actually always thought of RVP as a decent pro, albeit an injury ravaged one).

So take RVP's point on its own merits - is what he said right or wrong?
I'd have to say he's more right than wrong myself anyway.

Dr. Bre

I don’t want Watford to stay up cos it justifies sacking manager after manager. What a job Pearson doing tho

BullBlackNova

Dr. Bre wrote: »

I don’t want Watford to stay up cos it justifies sacking manager after manager. What a job Pearson doing tho

Watford have long justified their sacking approach. Only Gracia stuck around for any decent amount of time since Zola.

They have had 12 managers since 2012 (including Sanchez Flores twice and Hayden Mullins as caretaker) and they have been promoted, established as a PL side and made an FA Cup final in that time.

It's a strategy I don't like but it's hard to say it's not justified because it has clearly worked!

Quazzie

United get their asses handed to them, and the General thread turns into a pissing match about RvP's commitment levels.

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

No its a good match and there is progression. He needs a few more players though

He has the worst win percentage of any United manager in history

We got rid of the last manager rightly because the players stopped playing for him

We have less points this season without the players downing tools the issue is the manager is tactically clueless

The longer he stays it's only going to get worse

Getting in a top manager and we have an outside chance of top 4 which makes signing good players easier

Currently we will be lucky to make the Europa league

I really fail to see what progression he is making

Esse85

tanko wrote: »

Filthy tackle by Ben Mee, he knew exactly what he was doing there. He got the ball so it's all grand, typical Burnley tackle.

Scumbag player, not the first time he's done this tackle either.
I bet you if he was foreign the FA would be looking at punishing him, but because he's one of their own he'll be applauded for his British Bulldog type approach.