General Premier League Thread 2019-20

8-10

Oranage2 wrote: »

In the modern Era or at least since I was born

Iused2likebusts

Man city are the only team to have ever won the caraboa cup.

niallo27

Orange1 would be turning in his grave listening to this waffle

yourdeadwright

Aresnal have never won The Premier leauge,
That's a fact
it only been called that since 2007, United have only won it 4 times
Was the EPL and the BPL before that

Shanotheslayer

8-10 wrote: »

This is the best soccer team I've ever seen.

Big claim. Peps Barca team for me. Or international that Spanish team was incredible across the park

8-10

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Big claim. Peps Barca team for me. Or international that Spanish team was incredible across the park

Yep important note that I mean personally that I've seen. So I don't think it's a big claim, it's more stating an opinion than something I'm saying is fact. And I'm clearly biased.

But to have only lost 1 league game since before the Kiev Champions League Final v Madrid is ludicrous. And I've watched every game in that timeframe and been to see a few of them live and every week I'm more impressed with them. This week it's Alisson and how valuable he is. No goals conceded in 12 of the 18 league games he's played in. We've only conceded once since the 4th December and haven't dropped a single point since October.

43 games unbeaten. 103pts taken from the last 105 on offer. 25pts ahead of one of the best teams the league has ever seen. No defeat at Anfield in the league or in Europe since April 2017.

It's silly stuff really. I don't know how you can beat this team.

Guy:Incognito

RasTa wrote: »

Should be Norwich gone so.

If their survival was dependent on getting something from a team that's dropped 2 points all season then they are gone regardless.

Guy:Incognito

How many ZDS cups have Utd won?

Nothing team

ERG89

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Big claim. Peps Barca team for me. Or international that Spanish team was incredible across the park

Honestly their midfield was insane, the rest of that team? Not so much.
Once Xavi, Iniesta and Alonso declined the arse completely out of that side. They still had Silva, Cesc, Alba, Pique, Ramos, Pedro & Busquets but the other 3 in their peak were the ones who really made the difference imo. They've performed poorly since 2014, not even a quarter final appearance since & none of those lads were washed 6 years ago.

JPA

ERG89 wrote: »

Honestly their midfield was insane, the rest of that team? Not so much.
Once Xavi, Iniesta and Alonso declined the arse completely out of that side. They still had Silva, Cesc, Alba, Pique, Ramos, Pedro & Busquets but the other 3 in their peak were the ones who really made the difference imo. They've performed poorly since 2014, not even a quarter final appearance since & none of those lads were washed 6 years ago.

Basically played 5 midfielders in 2012, Xavi, Alonso, Busquets, David Silva, Iniesta with Villa up front. Insane levels of quality.

Shanotheslayer

ERG89 wrote: »

Honestly their midfield was insane, the rest of that team? Not so much.
Once Xavi, Iniesta and Alonso declined the arse completely out of that side. They still had Silva, Cesc, Alba, Pique, Ramos, Pedro & Busquets but the other 3 in their peak were the ones who really made the difference imo. They've performed poorly since 2014, not even a quarter final appearance since & none of those lads were washed 6 years ago.

They won two world cups and a Euros in between. They were insane and the football they played was beautiful.

Villa in his prime was better than Torres in that Spanish team.


8-10 will reply to that post later or tomorrow as got to run, but agree with a lot of it.

ERG89

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

They won two world cups and a Euros in between. They were insane and the football they played was beautiful.

Villa in his prime was better than Torres in that Spanish team.

Villa was played out wide a lot tho & missed the 2012 Euros.

It was 2 Euros and 1 world cup btw.
I genuinely feel most of the top International teams were very average during that time.
Germany in 2010 it was like the start of a newer generation with Ozil, Khedira, Neuer, Muller but they still had players like Mertesacker or Friedrich who wouldn't be caught dead at a big club then.
Holland set themselves back 10 years when they got to a WC final in 2010 & the effects of that are still there now. It was similar to Germany in 2002 getting to a final while also feeling dramatically out of date.
Italy & France had 1 good tournament between them when Spain were on top, neither even got out their group at the 2010 World Cup it got that bad.
Portugal were gatekeepers that teams going to the final would just bypass they could not get that hump off their back for most of that era. Even when they eventually won a tournament a few years they weren't exactly a great side, it was more like Greece or Denmark winning one than a top team.
Brazil and Argentina, the well was starting to dry of exciting talent by then, unfortunately I still remember a 50 year old Veron coming back & Brazil under Dunga.
Unless you rated Germany or Uruguay higher than I did I'm not sure who they beat that were much use.
I genuinely think other than Spain none of those would have done well if you asked them to play a top club side.

Shanotheslayer

8-10 wrote: »

But to have only lost 1 league game since before the Kiev Champions League Final v Madrid is ludicrous. And I've watched every game in that timeframe and been to see a few of them live and every week I'm more impressed with them. This week it's Alisson and how valuable he is. No goals conceded in 12 of the 18 league games he's played in. We've only conceded once since the 4th December and haven't dropped a single point since October.

43 games unbeaten. 103pts taken from the last 105 on offer. 25pts ahead of one of the best teams the league has ever seen. No defeat at Anfield in the league or in Europe since April 2017.

It's silly stuff really. I don't know how you can beat this team.

I agree that to only have lost 1 league game since then is an incredible achievement.

Talk of Allison this week, I assume you mean the save referring to the sitter that Norwich missed? That's overhyped tbh. He did what any good goalkeeper would do. That's a Norwich clusterfck. If Liverpool players made that error you would not be hyping the Norwich goalkeeper and talking about how good he is. More so talking about how the Liverpool players butchered the chance.

The counter argument to the above is ''His Positioning'' Horsesh!t tbh, as I said good goalkeepers get in that position.

The whole ''25 points ahead of one of the best teams'' Is all well an good, but context is important. City have won the league two years in a row. Momentium is tough to keep as proven based on league winners. Lost key players on top of that. Kompany & Laporte mainly. But that's no excuse overall and nothing to take away from Liverpool.

Agree with the rest, it's hard to see anybody beat them currently. Especially in a CL 2 legged situation.

gimli2112

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Big claim. Peps Barca team for me. Or international that Spanish team was incredible across the park

funnily enough I agree, this Liverpool team just don't have that je ne sais quois of a truly great side. Liverpool 88 for me greatest of all time, although
most wins at this stage of the season
FACT
103 points from the last 105
FACT
coronavirus is the biggest threat to our season
FACT
We're going to win the league
quite possibly

Harambe

If Liverpool win another 9 games they are quite simply the best team the premier league has ever seen.

pjohnson

No team has ever won the league since my kid is born*.





*I dont have a kid.

Cork Boy 53

Oranage2 wrote: »

They won it last season

What bull**** are you spouting? The Gunners won the square root of **** all last season.

Harry Palmr

They won the lost in a Europa League final Cup.

Oranage2

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What bull**** are you spouting? The Gunners won the square root of **** all last season.

Woman's league

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

Woman's league

And did city win the Man's league?


And well done...

Guy:Incognito

Oh, can the women's titles be added so? Cos Liverpool have 2 of those.

Excellent. Title number 21 being added this season.

Oranage2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And did city win the Man's league?


And well done...

I don't know what the problem is. If Ireland female soccer team won a major trophy I think a lot of people would be happy.

I know it's know as supported as much as the male league but it's still a great achievement from them and a trophy in the arsenal cabinet

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

I don't know what the problem is. If Ireland female soccer team won a major trophy I think a lot of people would be happy.

I know it's know as supported as much as the male league but it's still a great achievement from them and a trophy in the arsenal cabinet

You should start a thread on women's soccer if you're so interested in it.

ShamoBuc

Deleted User wrote: »

You should start a thread on women's soccer if you're so interested in it.

Might as well, clearly knows a whole lot more about the women's game than the men's.

Oranage2

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Might as well, clearly knows a whole lot more about the women's game than the men's.

And you're a mod, WOW

Shanotheslayer

Oranage2 wrote: »

And you're a mod, WOW

Shame he's not a mod of this forum so he could ban you

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

And you're a mod, WOW

I miss this accusation regardless of non related forum... not.

Oranage2

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Shame he's not a mod of this forum so he could ban you

Ha, banned for saying arsenal ladies team won the ladies league? Are you okay buddy?

This is it

More for talking shyte I'd say.

Oranage2

This is it wrote: »

More for talking shyte I'd say.

I'm on boards 10 years, you've barely been here a year, respect!!!

fullstop

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'm on boards 10 years, you've barely been here a year, respect!!!

Stop embarrassing yourself FFS.

8-10

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'm on boards 10 years, you've barely been here a year, respect!!!

Since you were a teenager eh, or younger?

FluffPiece

Ah lads, he's almost like a lite version of statman Gaz

Fitz*

If Liverpool were to win the league undefeated, I wonder will the PL present the special trophy at St. James Park, or will it be just be given to the club during the summer?

Baggly

FitzShane wrote:

If Liverpool were to win the league undefeated, I wonder will the PL present the special trophy at St. James Park, or will it be just be given to the club during the summer?

Subtle.

Fitz*

Baggly wrote: »

Subtle.

There is plenty talk here of Arsenal's league wins (men & women now) and Arsenal received the special gold trophy after their last league win, for going the season undefeated.

As far as I know, Arsenal gave the trophy to Wenger when he left the club.

KaiserGunner

Yeah the club gave Wenger the trophy, but he then gave it back to the club. It’s on display in the Emirates now.

Harry Palmr

Villa open the scoring against Spurs, Toby Alderweireld OG

This is it

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Villa open the scoring against Spurs, Toby Alderweireld OG

Should've been 2-0, Grealish leaving Alderweireld for dust, puts it on a plate for Luiz who somehow manages to miss. I don't know if Ben Davies moved or it was hit straight at him, either way it should've been buried.

TitianGerm

This would be a huge result for Villa if they can get 3 points.

marklazarcovic

Spurs lucky it's not 4-0

gimli2112

TitianGerm wrote: »

This would be a huge result for Villa if they can get 3 points.

It'll blow the CL spots wide open. It's mad the KDB or Aguero might have to join Wolves or Sheffield Utd for CL football.

Mushy

Some finish by Toby there

This is it

Some finish!

Harry Palmr

England have an abundance of exciting attacking young midfielders/wingers who deserve some game time with the national side this summer.

Grealish, Maddison, Todd Cantwell, Harvey Barnes to add to Sterling, Alli, Rashford and Sancho.

This is it

Reina nearly pulled his shorts off

Osmosis Jones

Incredible game going on between Alderweireld and Engels.

Baggly

FitzShane wrote:

There is plenty talk here of Arsenal's league wins (men & women now) and Arsenal received the special gold trophy after their last league win, for going the season undefeated.

I retract my statement. I honest to god thought you were being sarky for some reason.

Mushy

What a feck up

Loafing Oaf

Killa for Villa!:D