General Premier League Thread 2019-20

Guy:Incognito

1-0 Norwich. Super finish.

They should have been 1-0 up already , they butchered a 5 or 6 on 3 a few mins before it.

giveitholly

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

1-0 Norwich. Super finish.

They should have been 1-0 up already , they butchered a 5 or 6 on 3 a few mins before it.

Leicester really seem to be imploding




Will prob win 2-1 now

Mushy

A beauty of a goal by Norwich.

Leicester slipping back into a top 4 battle maybe

BullBlackNova

Mushy wrote: »

A beauty of a goal by Norwich.

Leicester slipping back into a top 4 battle maybe

I keep just assuming they'll be fine but if they lose tonight and Man United beat Everton on Sunday, it's just six pointes from 3rd to 5th with 10 games to play.

Leicester are on a poor run - roughly a point a game since mid-December.

Some tough ones in there - Liverpool, City x2, Wolves - but defeats against Burnley and Southampton are particularly bad results.

They've missed Ndidi big time but there's been 5 or 6 players whose form has collapsed too - Vardy hasn't scored since Christmas, Maddison and Tielemans aren't doing well, Chilwell and Soyuncu look poor lately too.

They play Villa, Watford, Brighton, Palace and Bournemouth in their next 7 games. They also have Everton, Arsenal, Man United, Sheffield United and Spurs between now and the end of the season... That first group of games could be absolutely crucial because if the momentum keeps shifting away from them and toward the likes of Everton, Arsenal, United and Spurs then those games suddenly become 6 pointers.

It'll be interesting - barring an absolute collapse between now and May, you'd have to say they've done better than expected this season but that's a different kind of challenge and it'll be interesting to see how Rodgers preps them for it.

If Ndidi stays fit and one or two of the attackers rediscover their form, I'd give them the edge. But it'll be close.

8-10

Leicester can now only get a maximum of 80pts

A win tomorrow and Liverpool can only be caught by City

(and/or coronavirus)

Zeek12

giveitholly wrote: »

Leicester really seem to be imploding

Just 1 win in their last 5 league games.
And Vardy's form has disappeared.

If some of the traditional "Big 6" clubs, like United and Spurs, had some proper consistency, Leicester would be out of the Top 4 already.

MD1990

Leicester 12 points in 12 games.

Shoudl still make top 4.
But they need plenty of signings if they are to sustain as a top 4 club.

Harry Palmr

Typical Rodgers side, take out the main goal threat and they have no plan B

charolais0153

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Typical Rodgers side, take out the main goal threat and they have no plan B

Take out lewandowski, messi, Ronaldo....... We see ronaldos absence is massive in real madrid, whats liverpools plan b?

8-10

charolais0153 wrote: »

Take out lewandowski, messi, Ronaldo....... We see ronaldos absence is massive in real madrid, whats liverpools plan b?

Divock Origi

TitianGerm

BullBlackNova wrote: »

I keep just assuming they'll be fine but if they lose tonight and Man United beat Everton on Sunday, it's just six pointes from 3rd to 5th with 10 games to play.

Leicester are on a poor run - roughly a point a game since mid-December.

Some tough ones in there - Liverpool, City x2, Wolves - but defeats against Burnley and Southampton are particularly bad results.

They've missed Ndidi big time but there's been 5 or 6 players whose form has collapsed too - Vardy hasn't scored since Christmas, Maddison and Tielemans aren't doing well, Chilwell and Soyuncu look poor lately too.

They play Villa, Watford, Brighton, Palace and Bournemouth in their next 7 games. They also have Everton, Arsenal, Man United, Sheffield United and Spurs between now and the end of the season... That first group of games could be absolutely crucial because if the momentum keeps shifting away from them and toward the likes of Everton, Arsenal, United and Spurs then those games suddenly become 6 pointers.

It'll be interesting - barring an absolute collapse between now and May, you'd have to say they've done better than expected this season but that's a different kind of challenge and it'll be interesting to see how Rodgers preps them for it.

If Ndidi stays fit and one or two of the attackers rediscover their form, I'd give them the edge. But it'll be close.

Far cry from hammering Southampton 9-0 now.

giveitholly

TitianGerm wrote: »

Far cry from hammering Southampton 9-0 now.

And if I remember rightly they played the highlights of that hammering before their home game against southampton while Southampton were warming up and lost that match 1-2

Harry Palmr

On Leicester - after about 10-12 games they had a conversion rate of about 50% (shots/goals) it was ludicrously high and logically unstainable. And so it came to pass

https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/1233511028274683908

Fitz*

giveitholly wrote: »

And if I remember rightly they played the highlights of that hammering before their home game against southampton while Southampton were warming up and lost that match 1-2

Was delighted Southampton won that 2nd game, mainly for that reason.

ERG89

https://twitter.com/PremLeaguePanel/status/1233510219457744897?s=19

The likes of him, Vardy & Chilwell's form falling off a cliff is a large part of the reason their season has hit the skids since Christmas. Ndidi when he was fit hid a lot of their defensive faults too.
I think they had quietly convinced themselves without European football they could still be in the title race in the new year but the loss to City & absolute pasting at home to Liverpool came as a shock to some of them.

is_that_so

Coronavirus to strike again?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11061949/premier-league-coronavirus-liverpool-title/

giveitholly

is_that_so wrote: »

Coronavirus to strike again?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/11061949/premier-league-coronavirus-liverpool-title/

Isn't there a lot more to be decided than whether liverpool win the title,what about European places and relegation,So its not all about liverpool,whatever happens they can't just write off the season and start again next August with a new season

is_that_so

giveitholly wrote: »

Isn't there a lot more to be decided than whether liverpool win the title,what about European places and relegation,So its not all about liverpool,whatever happens they can't just write off the season and start again next August with a new season

Yeah, that's implied too. Telegraph has it too, but paywall blocks off most of the article.

BullBlackNova

All the Telegraph piece says is that the PL doesn't have an existing protocol to handle a pandemic outbreak so it's unclear what would happen.

Of course, "UNCLEAR HOW VIRUS EFFECTS FOOTBALL" doesn't generate the clicks so...

Italy has, by far, the worst outbreak in Europe at present and they've only put restrictions in place in the North. Games still going ahead behind closed doors, games proceeding as normal in the south.

If the entire UK was badly hit, of course football (like everything else) would be affected but you'd imagine it would have to be a large scale outbreak for that.

Fitz*

https://twitter.com/johncrossmirror/status/1233511262807633922?s=19

https://twitter.com/philmcnulty/status/1233533853790281729?s=19

https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1233535303081775111?s=19

Looks like they didn't get the memo about this PL season apparently being "the worst ever".

gimli2112

It's difficult to accept this is the greatest PL ever given the propaganda campaign over the last few months

Shanotheslayer

Are they basing it on points needed to be relegated?

Shanotheslayer

gimli2112 wrote: »

It's difficult to accept this is the greatest PL ever given the propaganda campaign over the last few months

Propaganda :pac: very dramatic Gimli.

Harambe

FitzShane wrote: »

Looks like they didn't get the memo about this PL season apparently being "the worst ever".

The only people saying this season is the worst ever are people who's own team are ****e and people who hate how good Liverpool are.

gimli2112

Harambe wrote: »

The only people saying this season is the worst ever are people who's own team are ****e and people who hate how good Liverpool are.

I prefer people suggesting it's the worst ever rather than hoping for a viral pandemic or global thermonuclear war.
This potential extinction level event is adding some spice to the title race I suppose.

Harry Palmr

https://twitter.com/experimental361/status/1233458878597255170

Shanotheslayer

One of the most pointless things I've ever seen

Harry Palmr

Shows how bad Wolves are in practically every first half, amazingly so. It defies normal stats analysis really.

Average minute for first goal conceded 26th
Average minute for first goal scored 52nd

5% of all goals scored up to 15th minute
34% of all goals scored from 75th minute.

Agent Coulson

Who is the first team going to be that signs a sponsorship deal with Corona beer now.

theoneeyedman

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PremLeaguePanel/status/1233510219457744897?s=19

The likes of him, Vardy & Chilwell's form falling off a cliff is a large part of the reason their season has hit the skids since Christmas. Ndidi when he was fit hid a lot of their defensive faults too.
I think they had quietly convinced themselves without European football they could still be in the title race in the new year but the loss to City & absolute pasting at home to Liverpool came as a shock to some of them.

Chilwell is a poor player, a very average fullback.

Harambe

Harambe wrote: »

The only people saying this season is the worst ever are people who's own team are ****e and people who hate how good Liverpool are.

Pretty accurate statement.

theoneeyedman

Is there any more annoying words in present day TV coverage then the words 'Let's bring in Peter Walton to have a look at it'.....

FFS, what a crock of sh1te

Loafing Oaf

This game

IncognitoMan

Harambe wrote: »

The only people saying this season is the worst ever are people who's own team are ****e and people who hate how good Liverpool are.

The only people saying it's a high standard season are Liverpool fans because they are top of the pile of rubbish.

Baseless, blanket statements go both ways

But also if those teams are ****e it hurts the quality of the league. You want as many of the big clubs entering their peak or close to it as you can to see the best league or do you think something else?

Pool are winning the league, enjoy it. Ye don't have to be so defensive over everything.

There's definitely an argument to be had though that the clubs down the league have lost something. Perhaps it's due to trying to play a better style of football and in turn a lot of them have lost their doggedness and some sh1thouse qualities.

Is that a bad thing? Not sure. But if City post 100, 98 and Liverpool put up 97 and 100+ then you do kinda have to look at everyone else and wonder what they are doing. Just like we used to look at Real and Barca in La Liga but at least there it was obviously the huge financial gap.

Liverpool and City are/were obviously of a very high quality but go below that and that quality drops off a cliff quickly.

Potentially worst Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea teams of the PL era. Leicester have won something like 6 games in 15 and are still fairly comfortable in 3rd. And yes it was a ****e league quality wise the year they won it as well before that gets asked.

The other big clubs have some serious issues to sort out. Fair play to Liverpool getting their house in order though and they are rightfully going to win it because they have been far and away the most consistent team.

Hopefully there's a decent title race next season but I can't see United, Chelsea or Arsenal being involved either way, way too much ground to make up at present. But again not Liverpool's fault, can only beat what's put in front of you.

I find it quite funny that liverpool fans spend so much time telling us how poor Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea are etc

Then get triggered as **** every time someone says the league is of a poor standard

The irony is delicious

The gift that keeps on giving. Love ye lads

noodler

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I find it quite funny that liverpool fans spend so much time telling us how poor Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea are etc

Then get triggered as **** every time someone says the league is of a poor standard

The irony is delicious

City, Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield and Spurs are decent though.

Point proven. Absolute gift!

Suck it up and enjoy the football. It's a breath of fresh air someone else winning it.

Case and point ^ :P

Harry Palmr

I wonder, if things did start to look bad would the Prem decide to accelerate the league programme? A match day every three days and the FA Cup abandoned.

gimli2112

The only teams that would support that are us and Norwich. Leicester and Chelsea would want it to end now and everyone else null and void it.

noodler

noodler wrote: »

City, Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield and Spurs are decent though.

Strip it all back and it's just jealously. Used to winning a lot 10/20 years ago, and finding it hard to adjust. Been there, worn the t-shirt.

8-10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I wonder, if things did start to look bad would the Prem decide to accelerate the league programme? A match day every three days and the FA Cup abandoned.

Has to be the opposite, push everything out a couple of months.

If anything should be abandoned it’s Euro 2020

Seem to be still wearing it

You don't actually aim to make a point either

It's funny too :P

gimli2112

6 wrote: »

Strip it all back and it's just jealously. Used to winning a lot 10/20 years ago, and finding it hard to adjust. Been there, worn the t-shirt.

tbh when Utd won their first one I didn't really care, I'd had time to come to terms with it, much like our rivals have now. If you check out the Utd thread recently all they talk about is Utd. It's like they don't care about us anymore

gimli2112

gimli2112 wrote: »

tbh when Utd won their first one I didn't really care, I'd had time to come to terms with it, much like our rivals have now. If you check out the Utd thread recently all they talk about is Utd. It's like they don't care about us anymore

Not direct rivals anymore, well currently anyway. Different European competitions and different goals in the league.

adaminho

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I wonder, if things did start to look bad would the Prem decide to accelerate the league programme? A match day every three days and the FA Cup abandoned.

The pro14 have said that any abandoned games will be classified as 0-0 draws.

Harry Palmr

So then Benteke Ayew scores - the world really is ending.

eigrod

adaminho wrote: »

The pro14 have said that any abandoned games will be classified as 0-0 draws.

That’s interesting. Rugby seems to have much more foresight than Football. They Said the same in the World Cup for games that might be weather affected - it was **** but at least everyone one where they stood. Football authorities need to stop sitting on their hands and make some decisions on what will happem in various scenarios that this is going to throw up.

Guy:Incognito

Everyone should just have their ppg for the season applied to the rest of their fixtures and call it a day.