General Premier League Thread 2019-20

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

He was excellent all game defending set pieces.

Your sound logic is not welcome here

Father Hernandez

Marty Bird wrote: »

Leicester really did pull Man U pants down with selling Maguire he’s poison.

Is he?

Hardly the worst player on the pitch today.

Strange to single him out.

bangkok

Marty Bird wrote: »

Leicester really did pull Man U pants down with selling Maguire he’s poison.

You clearly havent seen much of him playing so

Shanotheslayer

Also, is there a reason why there wasn't a penalty given to Siggy as he shot in the last second? He was cleaned out as he shot.

RasTa

He obviously only seen that clip. Thankfully you can't sit down offside right in front of the goalkeeper, not sure why this point is hard for so many to understand.

Shanotheslayer

RasTa wrote: »

He obviously only seen that clip. Thankfully you can't sit down offside right in front of the goalkeeper, not sure why this point is hard for so many to understand.

By sit down you mean fouled

RasTa

I can't believe the usuals are saying this wasn't interfering with play

Also surprised at the Spurs result

Shanotheslayer

RasTa wrote: »

I can't believe the usuals are saying this wasn't interfering with play

Also surprised at the Spurs result

DDG can see the ball clearly. So based on your still image, how is he interfering?

In fairness Ancellotti has Everton playing well

I'd fancy them getting results against Chelsea and Liverpool going on what I watched today

Direct football and Sigurdsson is a tidy player to have on cross and set piece delivery

As for us, Oles Utd failing to capitalize again when presented an opportunity should not come as a surprise to anyone watching them week in week out this season

Bruno and Fred played well again tbf, as did Maguire to his credit. Some very important clearances in the second half given Evertons threat in the air

Martial had one of his usual performances when team is under pressure

citytillidie

Norwich V Leicester

Brighton V Palace

Bournemouth V Chelsea

Newcastle V Burnley

West Ham V Southampton

Watford V Liverpool

Everton V Man Utd

Spurs V Wolves

TitianGerm

RasTa wrote: »

I can't believe the usuals are saying this wasn't interfering with play

Also surprised at the Spurs result

How exactly is he interfering? He's not blocking the keepers view of the ball and he's not impeding his movement.

citytillidie

Table (number of games left)

79 Liverpool (10)
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57 Man City (11)
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50 Leicester (10)
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45 Chelsea (10)
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42 Man Utd (10) Wolves (10)
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40 Spurs (10) Sheff Utd (11)
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38 Burnley (10)
37 Arsenal (11) Everton (10)
36 Palace (10)
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34 Southampton (10)
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32 Newcastle (10)
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28 Brighton (10)
27 West Ham (10) Watford (10) Bournemouth (10)
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25 Villa (11)
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21 Norwich (10)

TitianGerm

TitianGerm wrote: »

How exactly is he interfering? He's not blocking the keepers view of the ball and he's not impeding his movement.

Is he interfering if he moves his feet out of the way so the ball can go into the net?

What happens to the ball if he doesn't move his feet?

Watch it and ask yourself

RasTa

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

DDG can see the ball clearly. So based on your still image, how is he interfering?

He is in an offside position right in front of the goalkeeper, even if he can see the ball he is still active.

He then also has to move his leg out of the way from blocking the ball so becomes even more active.

niallo27

The official line is he is obstructing the keepers line of vision, so this decision makes no sense for me.

Shanotheslayer

Deleted User wrote: »

Is he interfering if he moves his feet out of the way so the ball can go into the net?

What happens to the ball if he doesn't move his feet?

Watch it and ask yourself

But that's the thing, avoiding the ball is considered not interfering. How many times does a player run by a defender(in an offside positon) to let the onside player run onto the ball? It's never offside because it's considered not interfering.

As far as I know interfering was always interacting with the keepers vision and or touching the ball.

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is he interfering if he moves his feet out of the way so the ball can go into the net?

What happens to the ball if he doesn't move his feet?

Watch it and ask yourself

If he doesn't move his feet the ball hits him and he becomes active.

Maguire also changes the angle of the ball so does that not now make him onside?

Oranage2

That table is good for people who don't k ow their numbers well, I can see why it attracts a lot of praise.

Shanotheslayer

This all would have been avoided if the Ref just gave the penalty that should have been anyway

citytillidie

Oranage2 wrote: »

That table is good for people who don't k ow their numbers well, I can see why it attracts a lot of praise.

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO

Oranage2 wrote: »

That table is good for people who don't k ow their numbers well, I can see why it attracts a lot of praise.

Maybe there should be a table of letters for you so you don't forget one.

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

This all would have been avoided if the Ref just gave the penalty that should have been anyway

I didn't see it so cant comment but the officiating in general was ****e all game IMO

Both Utd and Everton were on the end of some terrible decisions

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I didn't see it so cant comment but the officiating in general was ****e all game IMO

Both Utd and Everton were on the end of some terrible decisions

But United have gained a point and Everton lost two because of that poor officiating.

Everton can feel hard done by today.

Shanotheslayer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I didn't see it so cant comment but the officiating in general was ****e all game IMO

Both Utd and Everton were on the end of some terrible decisions

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1234150625673383936?s=19

Wan B after Siggy shot cleaned him out so it's a late tackle. No idea why Everton weren't screaming for the pen

TitianGerm

TitianGerm wrote: »

But United have gained a point and Everton lost two because of that poor officiating.

Everton can feel hard done by today.

No they haven't

Utd dominated the first half

Everton played well the second

The result was fair

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/EvertonNewsFeed/status/1234150625673383936?s=19

Wan B after Siggy shot cleaned him out so it's a late tackle. No idea why Everton weren't screaming for the pen

I assume he doesn't get the pen because he gets the shot away.

Shanotheslayer

TitianGerm wrote: »

I assume he doesn't get the pen because he gets the shot away.

Yeh I assume so is that a Law? It makes no sense. Essentially saying if player X shoots kicking player X afterwards is allowed

Don't see how it's any different to a player passing the ball

niallo27

Oranage2 wrote: »

That table is good for people who don't k ow their numbers well, I can see why it attracts a lot of praise.

For some reason I always think of this fella when i see you post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_25l7nwMmA

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No they haven't

Utd dominated the first half

Everton played well the second

The result was fair

United scored one goal. Everton scored two goals and had one wrongly disallowed.

United gained one point through poor officiating and Everton lost two.

RasTa

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Yeh I assume so is that a Law? It makes no sense. Essentially saying if player X shoots kicking player X afterwards is allowed

Don't see how it's any different to a player passing the ball

Yeah one of those similar to players not getting penos for being honest and staying up.

TitianGerm

TitianGerm wrote: »

United scored one goal. Everton scored two goals and had one wrongly disallowed.

United gained one point through poor officiating and Everton lost two.

That's great for you but I dont agree

adox

TitianGerm wrote: »

United scored one goal. Everton scored two goals and had one wrongly disallowed.

United gained one point through poor officiating and Everton lost two.

Honestly I’d say you are in the minority if you think that goal was incorrectly ruled out.

Whatever about Shane’s point about a potential peno, it’s offside everyday of the week.

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's great for you but I dont agree

I don't know how it's great for me? That makes no sense at all in the context of the discussion.

Look I know emotions are running high seeing as your team have snatched a point at the death but if that happened to United you'd be disgusted with the ref.

Shanotheslayer

My names not Shane

rob316

Unless de gea is only 2 foot tall his viewed can't be blocked. He's already going the other way so was never saving it. Awful call

yourdeadwright

Just heard the Everton second was the first ever own goal ruled out for offside in the Prem

niallo27

adox wrote: »

Honestly I’d say you are in the minority if you think that goal was incorrectly ruled out.

Whatever about Shane’s point about a potential peno, it’s offside everyday of the week.

It was disallowed because he obstructed his line of sight, has anyone that's not a utd fan said it was correctly ruled out.

Shanotheslayer

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Just heard the Everton second was the first ever own goal ruled out for offside in the Prem

Not sure if it would have went down as OG as it was originally on target?

AdamD

You can't sit down three yards in front of the keeper when you're offside. Baffled anyone thinks that should stand

AdamD

AdamD wrote: »

You can't sit down three yards in front of the keeper when you're offside. Baffled anyone thinks that should stand

I'd say some are knocking a bit of craic out of it at this stage

Shanotheslayer

AdamD wrote: »

You can't sit down three yards in front of the keeper when you're offside. Baffled anyone thinks that should stand

How many yards is acceptable?

yourdeadwright

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Not sure if it would have went down as OG as it was originally on target?

Shot was going wide ré watch it

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Not sure if it would have went down as OG as it was originally on target?

Looks like it might miss the far post but if Maguire doesn't touch it I think AWB is clearing it anyway.

yourdeadwright

Re watch the goal, The shot was deflected off shaw "hard to see" and was going wide then hit Maguire,
So it would have been an own goal
You can't be offside i this case, Refs have a video replay and still miss it total joke

RasTa

Most throw some lads in front of the keeper from now on, have a seat and you're never offside.

Shanotheslayer

RasTa wrote: »

Most throw some lads in front of the keeper from now on, have a seat and you're never offside.

Once he can see the ball go ahead. Probably not a great tactic

citytillidie

Another Man Utd controversy with a ref from Manchester

yourdeadwright

Is everyone going to pretend AWB didn't foul Sigs as he shot?

Guy:Incognito

Villa probably would have been better off playing Sheffield Utd yesterday and forgetting the Carabao Cup existed.

Guy:Incognito

John Stones must have heard me and figured he'd give them a hand