Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

artanevilla

They are like the home team, we seem to play worse at VP and has been the same for a number of seasons now.

JPA

2 nil

Watkins shocking touch and counter attacked.

Worst performance for a long time so far.

rebelomar

This is a shocking performance.

The problem was in MF at HT and instead of fixing that and upsetting some of the bigger names he bottled it and brought off a winger.

Worst display of the season but not much worse than Southampton to be fair.

Patser

2- 0


Jesus West Ham are picking us apart. They kept guys forward even as we had the ball, trusted us to mess up

artanevilla

Not been great the last two games.

sc86

Most dissapointing 60 mins since leeds game

Patser

That was an awful poor loss of ball at the edge of their box, with everyone up

Esse85

Shocking touch from Watkins that gave the ball away.

sc86

Easy to see why barkley cant make it at top 4 club

JPA

Esse85 wrote: »

Surely little squad rotation is impacting us here.
West Ham look fresher and more energetic.

We were worried about the run of games coming thick and fast and it is fully exposed tonight.

Patser

C'mon get Barkley of!!! Get Sanson or Nakamba in, shore up the middle, let McGinn or Luiz go forward more. Barkley is doing nothing

chases0102

8 shots on target to 0 is a shocking statisti, and tells the story

artanevilla

0 shots on target, 3 overall. West Ham 8 and 15.

Patser

Now Mings has killed himself saving a 3rd, some cry of pain from unreal save

JPA

Patser wrote: »

C'mon get Barkley of!!! Get Sanson or Nakamba in, shore up the middle, let McGinn or Luiz go forward more. Barkley is doing nothing

Seems obvious doesn't it.
The game can still be saved.

Panrich

Sanson please. I want to see what we've got there.

basillarkin

Lucky not to be 4 or 5 down. Antonio should have bagged a brace at least. Good play by mings to be fair. Could be a long 30 mins or so unless something drastically changes.

artanevilla

I think teams have figured Villa out.

JPA

sc86 wrote: »

Easy to see why barkley cant make it at top 4 club

He's a total passenger if he's not supplied with chances.

artanevilla

I'm switching over to Netflix.

JPA

artanevilla wrote: »

I think teams have figured Villa out.

Nothing to figure out when players can't control a ball.

Patser

I've to go to work soon, going to miss last 30 minutes.......



Good!

basillarkin

West ham pressing villa well. They are all over villa like a rash. Workrate is top notch

Patser

Trez for Barkley...... Grealish centre?

sc86

JPA wrote: »

He's a total passenger if he's not supplied with chances.

He looks like he nearly thinks hes to good for us, face on him getting subbed

Patser

basillarkin wrote: »

West ham pressing villa well. They are all over villa like a rash. Workrate is top notch

Maybe it's this. West Ham have been very good recently, and made it into top 4 with some great results. So Villa underestimated them

Esse85

Consistently crap games from McGinn and Barkley.
Even Luiz ineffective tonight.
70 mins in and there's been zero positives to take from this game.

rebelomar

We all know Dean Smith's biggest weakness is his game management but tonight has taken it to new levels in all honesty lads.

Agree with am earlier poster...Teams have figured us out. A but of pressure in the right areas and we can't build up...when we do have the ball in the final third you block up the channels that Grealish and Barkley like to work in.

Our midfield in particular McGinn isn't good enough unfortunately.

Patser

Can't think of a game this season we've been so ineffective up front

sc86

If davies gets subbed on then thats it

Panrich

No energy. Players look ****ed from playing 90 minutes every 3 days.

artanevilla

I'll keep watching Netflix in the hopes of another two.

basillarkin

Nice goal that

listermint

artanevilla wrote: »

I'll keep watching Netflix in the hopes of another two.

Can you do anything with the pool game theres some goals there I need

rebelomar

Shocking goalkeeping but Watkins with another stinker of a first touch

artanevilla

Nevermind....

basillarkin

Lingard again. Ffs. Hasn't played in months never mind scired

JPA

rebelomar wrote: »

Shocking goalkeeping but Watkins with another stinker of a first touch

2 touches leading to goals. WTF

Corholio

Rare off night from Martinez tonight, will feel disappointed about 2 of the goals. A very poor night overall, never got going at all. Not sure I agree with the whole 'figured the team out' stuff though, I think that's a very generic thing to say after poor performances. Team looks tired, physically and mentally, tonight more than anything else imo. Starting lineup needs freshening up, can see Sanson and Trez in for next game.

artanevilla

listermint wrote: »

Can you do anything with the pool game theres some goals there I need

Sadly my FF rivals need them to do well so no can do.

LeBash

We looked very flat. West Ham got the tactics spot on. Maybe a game too many for us as well.

rebelomar

Corholio wrote: »

Rare off night from Martinez tonight, will feel disappointed about 2 of the goals. A very poor night overall, never got going at all. Not sure I agree with the whole 'figured the team out' stuff though, I think that's a very generic thing to say after poor performances. Team looks tired, physically and mentally, tonight more than anything else imo. Starting lineup needs freshening up, can see Sanson and Trez in for next game.

Nah, blaming tiredness is too easy. Two games in a row we've been played off the park. Got lucky vs Southampton but West Ham got the result they deserved tonight.

I explained what they did already so I won't bore ye again but we have been out thought and out played two games on a row. Both teams approached it differently but the effect was similar.
.
Smith needs to make adjustments now and he also needs to make some in game. Not every game is going to go plan!

Easy Rod

JPA wrote: »

2 touches leading to goals. WTF

A lot of things happen in between his poor touch and the goals. Very harsh to blame him.

pavb2

The tone was set very early on conceded too many free kicks and kept giving the ball away. We didn’t deserve anything from the game but I also thought West Ham were good they played like a team who deserved to be in 5th. DS needs to have a look at how we’re going to play out the 2nd half of the season.

JPA

Easy Rod wrote: »

A lot of things happen in between his poor touch and the goals. Very harsh to blame him.

No, I am going to blame him. The ball bounced off him twice, that is basic stuff unfortunately.

CSF

Anyone wanna take a stab at how many good games Barkley has had for us?

Not fully sure how he plays every game when fit. He doesn’t do enough to deserve that.

Esse85

I can't believe we don't have another fit premier league striker. The lack of no other fit PL striker is killing us.
It's criminal that we went down that route in the summer, worse again it wasn't addressed last month.
And Traore or El Gazhi as striker is not a solution.

JPA

CSF wrote: »

Anyone wanna take a stab at how many good games Barkley has had for us?

Not fully sure how he plays every game when fit. He doesn’t do enough to deserve that.

It was a coup to get him, I wonder does Smith feel some kind of obligation to play him? He should definitely be benched Saturday for me.

Esse85

CSF wrote: »

Anyone wanna take a stab at how many good games Barkley has had for us?

Not fully sure how he plays every game when fit. He doesn’t do enough to deserve that.

His reputation and big salary gets him into the team.
Before the Sanson signing, there was only Nakamba and Houihane to challenge him.

Corholio

rebelomar wrote: »

Nah, blaming tiredness is too easy. Two games in a row we've been played off the park. Got lucky vs Southampton but West Ham got the result they deserved tonight.

I explained what they did already so I won't bore ye again but we have been out thought and out played two games on a row. Both teams approached it differently but the effect was similar.
.
Smith needs to make adjustments now and he also needs to make some in game. Not every game is going to go plan!

Not necessarily blaming losing on tiredness but the zip between players and the usual concentration was clearly not there, even from early on. Never played it fast enough to break West Ham lines, Barkley was guilty of this often. West Ham deserved it of course. Sanson looked lively when he came on, fully expect him and other changes for Arsenal.