Anybody have a sibling who's a complete waster?

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

One of the theories they are investigating. less space for absorbing nutrition, according to a PhD in Psychology I know. I think it is due to other factors

Some people seem to try to find any reason they can in other peoples behaviours to ‘pre-diagnose’ them as being on the autistic spectrum.

Another malformed agenda, no doubt.

Still waters

skooterblue2 wrote: »

One of the theories they are investigating. less space for absorbing nutrition, according to a PhD in Psychology I know. I think it is due to other factors

What qualifies you to think it may be down to other factors, apart from knowing someone with a PHD in psychology with an interest in nutrition

lainey_d_123

Still waters wrote: »

So he's autistic is he, or is ever lazy bastard autistic now, a very convenient excuse

I have a brother exactly like OP's and it's maddening.

He *is* autistic, but so am I, and I have a good job and have been working since college (and also worked while at college). The difference is that I wasn't enabled and treated as a golden child. I was told that I was not going to get any second chances and that I was expected to be out of the door and working full time as soon as the degree was finished. I graduated right into the 2008 recession and yet I have never been unemployed. I spent the first few years of my working life cleaning hotel toilets, answering phones, whatever I could get, and I often had to go abroad to get it. I truly believed that I was on my own in life and that I would not be bailed out, so I worked my hole off to ensure I could support myself.

My brother has never worked a day in his life, is 33 and can barely function as an adult. He's got a Master's and was doing a PhD but dropped out as he couldn't hack it. Doesn't seem to consider working a normal job. Constantly boasts about how intelligent he is and criticises all the people he considers beneath him, yet lives at home and on the dole. My parents have enabled and coddled him to the point that I genuinely think he can't function now. They could simply never see it themselves, how they treated him so differently to the rest of us. There was always an excuse why he got bailed out when we didn't, why he got second chances when we didn't.

Plenty of people with high functioning autism hold down jobs and lives, even if it's tough. I find work very hard and spend loads on therapy to cope with my social anxiety and other issues, but I do it. He seems to be at the point where he's totally delusional. He seems to believe that he's genuinely so special and so different and that the rules don't apply to him.

misterme123

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

I have a brother exactly like OP's and it's maddening.

He *is* autistic, but so am I, and I have a good job and have been working since college (and also worked while at college). The difference is that I wasn't enabled and treated as a golden child. I was told that I was not going to get any second chances and that I was expected to be out of the door and working full time as soon as the degree was finished. I graduated right into the 2008 recession and yet I have never been unemployed. I spent the first few years of my working life cleaning hotel toilets, answering phones, whatever I could get, and I often had to go abroad to get it. I truly believed that I was on my own in life and that I would not be bailed out, so I worked my hole off to ensure I could support myself.

My brother has never worked a day in his life, is 33 and can barely function as an adult. He's got a Master's and was doing a PhD but dropped out as he couldn't hack it. Doesn't seem to consider working a normal job. Constantly boasts about how intelligent he is and criticises all the people he considers beneath him, yet lives at home and on the dole. My parents have enabled and coddled him to the point that I genuinely think he can't function now. They could simply never see it themselves, how they treated him so differently to the rest of us. There was always an excuse why he got bailed out when we didn't, why he got second chances when we didn't.

Plenty of people with high functioning autism hold down jobs and lives, even if it's tough. I find work very hard and spend loads on therapy to cope with my social anxiety and other issues, but I do it. He seems to be at the point where he's totally delusional. He seems to believe that he's genuinely so special and so different and that the rules don't apply to him.

Does he drive?

lainey_d_123

misterme123 wrote: »

Does he drive?

Yes. Wrote his car off but 'wasn't his fault' and my parents bought him a new one.

Why?

skooterblue2

Still waters wrote: »

What qualifies you to think it may be down to other factors, apart from knowing someone with a PHD in psychology with an interest in nutrition

Good question. Nothing qualifies me. I am not a psychologist, a doctor, psychiatrist, or educational specialist. However I have a degree in Computing, studied Biomedical engineering, city and guilds in plant processing, Acupuncture, Chinese Medicine spent two years as a psychologist assistant (not to be read as an assistant psychologist), and 20 years searching for my own diagnosis. Currently pursuing immunology.

What qualifies you to question that I have a theory that I have not discussed? Are you some sort Autism specialist or Psychiatrist?

skooterblue2

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Yes. Wrote his car off but 'wasn't his fault' and my parents bought him a new one.

Why?

poor time distance skills and shifting the blame onto others.

misterme123

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Yes. Wrote his car off but 'wasn't his fault' and my parents bought him a new one.

Why?

Just because you said he was autistic and it was on skooterblue2's list of ASD related questions.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Good question. Nothing qualifies me. I am not a psychologist, a doctor, psychiatrist, or educational specialist. However I have a degree in Computing, studied Biomedical engineering, city and guilds in plant processing, Acupuncture, Chinese Medicine spent two years as a psychologist assistant (not to be read as an assistant psychologist), and 20 years searching for my own diagnosis. Currently pursuing immunology.

What qualifies you to question that I have a theory that I have not discussed? Are you some sort Autism specialist or Psychiatrist?

A bit of common sense is enough to see that there is no real way you have enough information about the OP’s brother to make anything other than an odd speculation that autism may be a factor. It could be. So could all sorts of things though. Cart before the horse stuff.

skooterblue2

misterme123 wrote: »

Just because you said he was autistic and it was on scooterblue's list of ASD related questions.

There are 22 different criteria for a diagnosis of HFA, you need to be having severe problems with 4 of them.

You dont need to fulfill all 22 conditions.

Still waters

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Good question. Nothing qualifies me. I am not a psychologist, a doctor, psychiatrist, or educational specialist. However I have a degree in Computing, studied Biomedical engineering, city and guilds in plant processing, Acupuncture, Chinese Medicine spent two years as a psychologist assistant (not to be read as an assistant psychologist), and 20 years searching for my own diagnosis. Currently pursuing immunology.

What qualifies you to question that I have a theory that I have not discussed? Are you some sort Autism specialist or Psychiatrist?

I don't think the scientific community take theories seriously from anyone just because they've a city and guilds in acupuncture or Chinese medicine, or anyone that can diagnose autism on the internet, might be worth a shot though

skooterblue2

JayZeus wrote: »

A bit of common sense is enough to see that there is no real way you have enough information about the OP’s brother to make anything other than an odd speculation that autism may be a factor. It could be. So could all sorts of things though. Cart before the horse stuff.

Well You see a lot of psychologist reports and meet and greet a lot of clients as an assistant. What are your qualifications?

skooterblue2

Still waters wrote: »

I don't think the scientific community take theories seriously from anyone just because they've a city and guilds in acupuncture or Chinese medicine, or anyone that can diagnose autism on the internet, might be worth a shot though

I dont have a city and guilds in acupuncture. I have a city and guilds in Plant processing. What if my theory was that ie was genetics? Load of people believe it is that or that it was due to some exposure to toxins or to trauma? Arent all those valid theories, held by valid experts in the field like Dr Temple Grandin and Professor Simon Baron Cohen?

misterme123

Still waters wrote: »

I don't think the scientific community take theories seriously from anyone just because they've a city and guilds in acupuncture or Chinese medicine, or anyone that can diagnose autism on the internet, might be worth a shot though

Unfortunately, professional diagnosis of autism is not very scientific anyway.

skooterblue2

misterme123 wrote: »

Unfortunately, professional diagnosis of autism is not very scientific anyway.

Have you got a more scientific approach that is better than the DISCO 10 or DSM 5 model. Please tell us. and your qualification as well please? All Attwood and Baron Cohen families are eagerly awaiting to find out what Sacha Baron Cohen has been doing wrong all his life.

Still waters

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Well You see a lot of psychologist reports and meet and greet a lot of clients as an assistant. What are your qualifications?

I have problematic psoriasis on my legs and hands, i wouldn't let my doctors secretary have a look at it and make a diagnosis, you should stop the pretence that you're in a position to diagnose a very complex medical/psychological condition and i only hope in real life you don't carry on like this

skooterblue2

Still waters wrote: »

I have problematic psoriasis on my legs and hands, i wouldn't let my doctors secretary have a look at it and make a diagnosis, you should stop the pretence that you're in a position to diagnose a very complex medical/psychological condition and i only hope in real life you don't carry on like this

Actually I am qualified to treat psoriasis as an acupuncturist, people who psoriasis have unaddressed psychological issues from a chinese perspective, particularly anger. I am not diagnosing anyone, I am however suggesting that they pursue a diagnosis. Which is something entirely different. Still waiting on your qualifications.....

misterme123

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Have you got a more scientific approach that is better than the DISCO 10 or DSM 5 model. Please tell us. and your qualification as well please?

I don't have to have my own alternative theory to say something isn't very scientific. Aspergers and Autism used to be classified as distinct disorders until very recently (in DSM I think, I'm open to correction). Now Aspergers is on the same spectrum as Autism, which is a developmental disorder. I'm just pointing out that diagnosis is subjective. These lists of symptoms will invariably be subject to future reclassifications, because they are still not well understood.

LollipopJimmy

Well there goes what could have been an interesting thread to read

Always Tired

Some people can be very smart, which can lead them to study something lofty and impractical, and then they have a degree which doesn't help you with employment.

So you end up with a smart, educated person whose only employment options are low paid menial jobs. And someone with intelligence isn't going to stick at tedious jobs that dont engage their brain. Especially since thse jobs tend to have bosses that aren't educated and don't respect their workers (like in hotels, takeaways, factories etc.)

Just because they don't fit into the rat race nonsense that you swallowed hook line and sinker doesn't make them a waster. But you calling him a waster makes you a bit of a pr*ck tbh.

Still waters

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Actually I am qualified to treat psoriasis as an acupuncturist, people who psoriasis have unaddressed psychological issues from a chinese perspective, particularly anger. I am not diagnosing anyone, I am however suggesting that they pursue a diagnosis. Which is something entirely different. Still waiting on your qualifications.....

What do you need my qualifications for, you're the one making dangerous assumptions online, i don't think pseudo scientific Chinese medicine or acupuncture is valid qualifications to assume autism online

skooterblue2

misterme123 wrote: »

I don't have to have my own alternative theory to say something isn't very scientific. Aspergers and Autism used to be classified as distinct disorders until very recently (in DSM I think, I'm open to correction). Now Aspergers is on the same spectrum as Autism, which is a developmental disorder. I'm just pointing out that diagnosis is subjective. These lists of symptoms will invariably be subject to future reclassifications, because they are still not well understood.

But you are free to question my theory that I havent shared.
It is not subjective, it has distinct criteria and we are not "all on the spectrum". This is a myth dispelled by experts. You may have traits but a formal diagnosis is made by someone with over 10 years experience. Trust me you dont want to take one of the Registered Psychologist or Psychiatrist on, they will put you in your place so fast. Its been over 5 years since DSM 5. Its been almost 20 years since DSM 4. Still awaiting your qualifications........

khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Actually I am qualified to treat psoriasis as an acupuncturist, people who psoriasis have unaddressed psychological issues from a chinese perspective, particularly anger. I am not diagnosing anyone, I am however suggesting that they pursue a diagnosis. Which is something entirely different. Still waiting on your qualifications.....

Well i wouldn't attend an acupuncturist who had city and guilds same as attending someone who did a mini course and set up to be a doctor.

Proper studying of acupuncture takes years. And youve taken a very selective view of the causes of psoriasis . I do sense a strong case or projection of your own issues onto people

branie2

No

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Actually I am qualified to treat psoriasis as an acupuncturist, people who psoriasis have unaddressed psychological issues from a chinese perspective, particularly anger. I am not diagnosing anyone, I am however suggesting that they pursue a diagnosis. Which is something entirely different. Still waiting on your qualifications.....

Eh... No.

I have actual qualifications in emergency medical care and have provided care in a wide range of circumstances to those experiencing traumatic injuries etc etc. Not street level first aid, real emergency care.

So as far as irrelevant qualifications go, mine are at least as good as yours.

Stop digging that hole. It’s only going to be harder to climb out of it later on.

I spent a lot of time as a child hanging around the dispensary of a pharmacy, so I guess I can prescribe medication on the internet.

skooterblue2

Still waters wrote: »

What do you need my qualifications for, you're the one making dangerous assumptions online, i don't think pseudo scientific Chinese medicine or acupuncture is valid qualifications to assume autism online

ohhhh I love this argument. Chinese Medicine has been perfected over 8000 years. The earliest text is about 2000BC (The yellow Emperors Classic of internal Medicine). It is proven and is incorporated into an Asian GP course (approximately one sixth). You want to put your trust in Western GP who isnt qualified to diagnose anything more than a common cold and is prescribing things he doesnt even understand but the sales rep cut him a sweet deal.
In Chinese Medicine, half your course is studying psychology and a third is studying western medicine. My poor GP, I am impressed everyday I meet him that he has his feet in the correct shoes. The man asked me what did my previous Doctor prescribe for autism.... Jesus wept.

Well you are maintaining that I dont understand anything but you havent established your credentials. What gives you the authority to dismiss my theories? You obviously have some great qualification to look down on me.

skooterblue2

JayZeus wrote: »

Eh... No.

I have actual qualifications in emergency medical care and have provided care in a wide range of circumstances to those experiencing traumatic injuries etc etc. Not street level first aid, real emergency care.

So as far as irrelevant qualifications go, mine are at least as good as yours.

Stop digging that hole. It’s only going to be harder to climb out of it later on.

Ahh health and safety officer then. All full of pomp authority while filing paperwork in the office. That first aid qualification is great to have on the CV, go Team You!.

Musefan

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Irish is particularly difficult language to learn if you are on the Autistic spectrum, unless it is your speciality (I know one and he is untreated and undiagnosed and has lead a trainwreck life). Hence new early diagnosis get exemptions from Irish.

Please ask more questions if you like, I have no problem answering.

An ASD diagnosis doesn’t entitle you to an Irish exemption

skooterblue2

khalessi wrote: »

Well i wouldn't attend an acupuncturist who had city and guilds same as attending someone who did a mini course and set up to be a doctor.

Proper studying of acupuncture takes years. And youve taken a very selective view of the causes of psoriasis . I do sense a strong case or projection of your own issues onto people

ahhhh ..... once again the city and guilds was in plant processing and the acupuncture is another course. I am now qualified 4 years thereabouts and practicing. I never claimed to be a doctor, that is your idea.

skooterblue2

Musefan wrote: »

An ASD diagnosis doesn’t entitle you to an Irish exemption

"A school will only grant an exemption if the principal is satisfied that learning Irish is causing undue difficulties on a pupil's language development in an English-medium environment." ASIAM.ie

Yeah it will you just have to push the right buttons. Psychologist can easily have a word with the principal.

It’s the internet and we’re all strangers. Anyone’s qualifications are irrelevant.

I have a car that breaks my heart, squeeks and rattles, throws up warning lights and codes and which I’m always paying people to diagnose and fix for me. As long as I’ve been driving, I’ve lived with the perpetually suboptimal operation of the machine. I’m very experienced in that regard.

I’m not a diagnostician, technician or mechanic. Someone elses car making a noise that sounds like the ones mine makes does not mean it has the same issue.

Some people buy snakeoil additives that serve as a placebo, helping them tolerate the issue a while longer, until a mechanical intervention is mandated. Others skip the pubtalk, the forums, the workmates ‘expertise’ and their amateurish diagnoses and just go get a professional to sort it out.

That’s a sound practice.

All the other rubbish is pointless. No amount of observing and paying to have things done for you has any value to another, when the machines are not the same. People who tell you otherwise are mistaken or delusional.

khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

ahhhh ..... once again the city and guilds was in plant processing and the acupuncture is another course. I am now qualified 4 years thereabouts and practicing. I never claimed to be a doctor, that is your idea.

Well I never said you were a doctor, however a city and guilds qualification in acupuncture is akin to reading the introduction on Chinese medicine. To be qualified in acupuncture requires as I said years of study. If I misread your qualification it is only because you yourself did not describe properly.

How long did you study acupuncture then? What are your qualifications in acupuncture? Where did you study it/

I derive from your very selective understanding of psoriasis from a medical and acupuncture point of view you are very naive and not as educated as you think.

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Ahh health and safety officer then. All full of pomp authority while filing paperwork in the office. That first aid qualification is great to have on the CV, go Team You!.

You think a heath and safety officer provides frontline pre-hospital emergency medical care?

Well, there goes your one trick pony, as you clearly have absolutely no idea what you’re arguing against. Clueless.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Sandhurst, great network, great career, during and afterwards.

Not saying it isn't, but it tends to require a certain conformed mindset not really engineered for clever thnking.

Musefan

skooterblue2 wrote: »

"A school will only grant an exemption if the principal is satisfied that learning Irish is causing undue difficulties on a pupil's language development in an English-medium environment." ASIAM.ie

Yeah it will you just have to push the right buttons. Psychologist can easily have a word with the principal.

Psychological reports are not required for Irish exemptions as of 2019. The criteria for an exemption is an assessment score below the 10th percentile on a literacy assessments. Children with ASD are not entitled to an assessment. Many principals grant the exemption based on ASD and anxiety in Irish classes or the need to do other subjects but this is not in line with the department of education criteria.

Re the OP. I wonder would some additional responsibilities around the home be helpful for your brother?

khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

"A school will only grant an exemption if the principal is satisfied that learning Irish is causing undue difficulties on a pupil's language development in an English-medium environment." ASIAM.ie

Yeah it will you just have to push the right buttons. Psychologist can easily have a word with the principal.

That is out of date information and any child with a difficulty with Irish will be assessed appropriately as not only do people with autism have difficulty with Irish and in my experience they are minority, dyslexics also do and other educational diagnosis so should we assume he has dyslexia rather then autism?

skooterblue2

khalessi wrote: »

How long did you study acupuncture then? What are your qualifications in acupuncture? Where did you study it/

I derive from your very selective understanding of psoriasis from a medical and acupuncture point of view you are very naive and not as educated as you think.

I have a diploma in acupuncture from Ireland. Three years in Dublin. And ONCE again ITS NOT FROM CITY AND GUILDS!!! Its the same one that is in recognised in Ireland.

lainey_d_123

skooterblue2 wrote: »

poor time distance skills and shifting the blame onto others.

Sure but is that autism or is it the actions of a narcissist who has been indulged?

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have a diploma in acupuncture from Ireland. Three years in Dublin. And ONCE again ITS NOT FROM CITY AND GUILDS!!! Its the same one that is in recognised in Ireland.

Where in Dublin? I mean at what educational institution and who were the accrediting body for this 3 year diploma?

khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have a diploma in acupuncture from Ireland. Three years in Dublin. And ONCE again ITS NOT FROM CITY AND GUILDS!!! Its the same one that is in recognised in Ireland.

Would you attend a doctor in a hospital id he said he had a diploma. I wouldnt

Eejit

skooterblue2

khalessi wrote: »

That is out of date information and any child with a difficulty with Irish will be assessed appropriately as not only do people with autism have difficulty with Irish and in my experience they are minority, dyslexics also do and other educational diagnosis so should we assume he has dyslexia rather then autism?

That information is good as of September 2019. If the principal is satisfied then there is a case for an exemption of Irish.

pablo128

JayZeus wrote: »

Where in Dublin? I mean at what educational institution and who were the accrediting body for this 3 year diploma?

For someone who won't give their own qualifications, you're awful interested in someone else's.

khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

That information is good as of September 2019. If the principal is satisfied then there is a case for an exemption of Irish.

Autism does not automatically mean a child will have difficulty with Irish sorry to disappoint you. Its nice that ASIAM put that in but it applies to all children needing assessment not just for autism. Most children with diagnosis of autism I know have coped well with Irish.

Purple Mountain

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Musefan

skooterblue2 wrote: »

That information is good as of September 2019. If the principal is satisfied then there is a case for an exemption of Irish.

Having ASD is not a criterion of the Irish exemption circular. If a principal grants an exemption on such a case, it contravenes Dept. of education rules and could be revoked if exemption documentation was inspected in the school. In this case, a parent would need to appeal.

skooterblue2

khalessi wrote: »

A diploma no way in hell would I go near you

fecks sake no wonder you havent a clue.

Like physios who go off and do a course

Would you attend a doctor in a hospital id he said he had a diploma. I wouldnt

Eejit

hahahha. A diploma is first qualification and there is a lot to know, I am only practicing three years since I qualified. Physios who do a course are only a two years masters at UCD. So I have 6 years experience of seeing clients.

Once again you are obsessed with the Doctor. You would be lucky to find a junior doctor who could speak english these days.

Purple Mountain

Purple Mountain wrote: »

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khalessi

skooterblue2 wrote: »

hahahha. A diploma is first qualification and there is a lot to know, I am only practicing three years since I qualified. Physios who do a course are only a two years masters at UCD. So I have 6 years experience of seeing clients.

Once again you are obsessed with the Doctor.

Listen youve just got a diploma and I realise what it takes as I previously stated but as with all your posts you only take selectively what suits your narrow mindness. People like you annoy me as they bring acupuncture into disrepute having not studied it properly

khalessi

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