US take out Suleimani - mod warning in OP

smurgen

MartianMessiah wrote: »

Forcing women to wear burkas stoning adulterers hanging gays from cranes theocratic rule requiring obligatory religious observance and a brutal police state that subjects its people to arbitrary arrest torture and imprisonment censored media and internet?

Yeah Iran seems delightful.

The Ayatollahs Soleimani and his ilk have been trying to export this violent ideology throughout world since 1979.

I know who I support

Imprisonment?U.S has the largest prison system in the world by a factor. And it's leader is a mentally ill compulsive liar who is banned from administering charities after he illegally took funds from his own.

wildeside

jackboy wrote: »

No they are not. They quickly destroyed the Iraqi military with ease.

It's true the US military overpowered the Iraqi military with ease in that conflict.

But that's all that can be said categorically.

To say America 'won' is obviously up for debate. But that's for another thread!

Timberrrrrrrr

MartianMessiah wrote: »

Forcing women to wear burkas stoning adulterers hanging gays from cranes theocratic rule requiring obligatory religious observance and a brutal police state that subjects its people to arbitrary arrest torture and imprisonment censored media and internet?

Yeah Iran seems delightful.

The Ayatollahs Soleimani and his ilk have been trying to export this violent ideology throughout world since 1979.

I know who I support

Saudi does the same, Trump/America love the Saudis, why do you think that is?

jackboy

wildeside wrote: »

It's true the US military overpowered the Iraqi military with ease in that conflict.

But that's all that can be said categorically.

To say America 'won' is obviously up for debate. But that's for another thread!

They easily won against the Iraqi military. What happened after with the insurgency was a lot more complicated and caused the US severe issues. With Iran they will not need boots on the ground, degrading the military will be sufficient to weaken the regime.

Gatling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would you be a stable ,

Great strawman drawing mental health into this.

I'm definitely stable .

Mental health explains most of the issues boards have in threads ,

End of the world types who blame America for their lifes woes .

ArchXStanton

smurgen wrote: »

Imprisonment?U.S has the largest prison system in the world by a factor. And it's leader is a mentally ill compulsive liar who is banned from administering charities after he illegally took funds from his own.

They literally have the population of a small country behind bars

Cheerful Spring2

latest news: The United States led coalition in Syria & Iraq has suspended all operations against ISIS as the US preps for retaliation from Iran.
The United States expects Iran to militarily respond it's just unknown how they will respond.

This likely means all officers and soldiers and equipment is now not moving out from bases, they're getting ready for whatever Iran operation takes against them.

Eric Cartman

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Saudi does the same, Trump/America love the Saudis, why do you think that is?

Because no US president wants an energy crisis on their home soil if the very unstable leader of a despot regime who controls a hell of a lot of oil decides the barrels aren't to go stateside.

Itssoeasy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

keeping the armed forces and their suppliers / contractors in jobs for 20 years and allowing higher up figures to win medals and climb the ranks, all at the expense of the US taxpayer.

The problem with the US since Vietnam is that they have no exit plan. How they are still in Iraq proves this. The American have a habit of getting in these messes and you think they learn. They were all friends with the taliban until they weren't and then sadam until they weren't. You'd think they'd learn after nearly 50 years of this but maybe they don't want to.

IF the Iraqi PM account is true then regardless of which party the president is of it sounds dodgy as ****.

Gatling

Looks like another Iranian is next .

The State Department is offering $15 million for information relating to the financial activities, networks, and associates of a high-ranking Iranian operative.

According to U.S. Special Representative on Iran Brian Hook, Abdul Reza Shahlai, an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) officer with Quds Force, has been behind attacks targeting American soldiers and civilians.

In 2007, Shahlai planned an attack that resulted in the death of five and the injury of three American Soldiers. Moreover, the Iranian officer has a “long history of attacks against Americans and our allies globally. He planned multiple assassinations of coalition forces in Iraq [during the insurgency, and] provided weapons and explosives to violent Shia extremist groups.”

This isn’t the first time the Iranian officer is being targeted by the U.S. In 2011, the U.S. Treasury included Shahlai in a sanctions package aimed at Iranian officials involved in the plot to murder the Saudi ambassador to the U.S.

The State Department believes that Shahlai was also behind a plot that would have resulted in the deaths of approximately 200 American civilians — the plot was thwarted by the U.S. intelligence community.

Shahlai is currently believed to be in Yemen, supporting the Houthi rebel forces as they attempt to prevail in a bloody civil war that has been going on since 2015.

Eric Cartman

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The problem with the US since Vietnam is that they have no exit plan. How they are still in Iraq proves this. The American have a habit of getting in these messes and you think they learn. They were all friends with the taliban until they weren't and then sadam until they weren't. You'd think they'd learn after nearly 50 years of this but maybe they don't want to.

IF the Iraqi PM account is true then regardless of which party the president is of it sounds dodgy as ****.

+1 , sure theyve never had to really learn how to do that, WW2 the europeans took over, cleaned up germany, looked after the trials of war criminals, the US just had to man a checkpoint till the brits said 'we'll take it from here old sport'

nacho libre

Gatling wrote: »

,oh did you hear America did this and America did ,
While blantly ignoring every other player in the game ,

I notice you don't use this deflectionary tactics when some posters are pointing out Russian crimes.

smurgen

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Because no US president wants an energy crisis on their home soil if the very unstable leader of a despot regime who controls a hell of a lot of oil decides the barrels aren't to go stateside.

Sorry after this entire massive cockup anytime I head unstable leader I think of Trump and anytime I read of despot regime I think of the trump administration. The US reputation internationally is in complete tatters. Well played Putin.

Gringo180

Trump tweeting about destroying cultural sites in Iran is one of the most sickening things I have ever seen a U.S president say. Its also a war crime. But the Americans never face justice it seems.

Isis done the same thing in Syria iirc by detroying cultural sites. Seems Trumps got a horn by the head choppers previous actions.

ChikiChiki

Gatling wrote: »

I'm definitely stable .

Mental health explains most of the issues boards have in threads ,

End of the world types who blame America for their lifes woes .

A sure sign of losing an argument. Clutching at straws to bring mental health into it. Well done.

LillySV

ArchXStanton wrote: »

They literally have the population of a small country behind bars

Don’t worry about American troublemakers, worry about ours first

we have a good majority of our population out side bars after dozens of charges/convictions and continuously get free legal aid... ready to rob/ stab as many as they like each week as no proper repercussions.... the decent have to stay living in fear of them...and the legal system stays bleeding theses taxpayers through the free legal aid system

if jimmy the taxpayer under declares tax or goes over speed limit though... the book is thrown at him ...

wildeside

MartianMessiah wrote: »

Forcing women to wear burkas stoning adulterers hanging gays from cranes theocratic rule requiring obligatory religious observance and a brutal police state that subjects its people to arbitrary arrest torture and imprisonment censored media and internet?

Yeah Iran seems delightful.

The Ayatollahs Soleimani and his ilk have been trying to export this violent ideology throughout world since 1979.

I know who I support

Who/what do you support? American war hawks? Ordinary Americans? American ideals?

kildare lad

smurgen wrote: »

Sorry after this entire massive cockup anytime I head unstable leader I think of Trump and anytime I read of despot regime I think of the trump administration. The US reputation internationally is in complete tatters. Well played Putin.

The chaps a clown . How many people have , resigned , got sacked or locked up in his administration . The chap was born with the silver spoon shoved up his ass, daddy gave him tens of millions dollors. Not a loan of a million as he makes out. Business failure after business failure , hes the business man for idiots and yet millions of yanks buy into it.

smurgen

kildare lad wrote: »

The chaps a clown . How many people have , resigned , got sacked or locked up in his administration . The chap was born with the silver spoon shoved up his ass, daddy gave him tens of millions dollors. Not a loan of a million as he makes out. Business failure after business failure , hes the business man for idiots and yet millions of yanks buy into it.

Evangelist mental cases praying for him and he had numerous affairs outside of his marriage.including one to a pornstar.

Gatling

ChikiChiki wrote: »

A sure sign of losing an argument. Clutching at straws to bring mental health into it. Well done.

The thing is I'm not wrong.

Gatling

nacho libre wrote: »

I notice you don't use this deflectionary tactics when some posters are pointing out Russian crimes.

Where.


Some people don't like facts and history but yeah imagine a world where people stood around in circles crying murica did this and murica did that , remember Nam mad yada yada yada

kildare lad

You have to feel for the Iraqi people , living under Saddam , the sanctions put on them , then an illegal war since 2003 , yanks bombing the crap out of the place , civil war between sunnis and shais ,sectarian bombing and killings that'd make northern Ireland look playground fight . Isis for the last few years bringing their mass murder machine with them , and now they're stuck in the middle between the yanks and Iran. George Bush who started it all, is retired on a ranch in Texas . The world's a messed up place

kildare lad

smurgen wrote: »

Evangelist mental cases praying for him and he had numerous affairs outside of his marriage.including one to a pornstar.

While he's wife was pregnant at the time aswell.

joseywhales

Can someone tell me why the sovereign country of Iran has no right to secure their border? What have they done to deserve this constant aggression from America? They are one of the few stable Nations in the middle East, America doesn't like stability?

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

I'm definitely stable .

Mental health explains most of the issues boards have in threads ,

End of the world types who blame America for their lifes woes .

Why did you edit my quote? Suits your agenda?

Gatling

kildare lad wrote: »

You have to feel for the Iraqi people , living under Saddam ,

Sure they don't give a flying feck when protester's in Iran and gunned down by the revolutionary guard ,
It's was somebody's elses fault.

wildeside

MartianMessiah wrote: »

I support smashing the Ayatollahs and the Islamic state in Iran

These guys are every bit as crazy as Hitler and need to be need to go

So it's the ideology they represent and espouse you want to smash. Are you proposing their ideology can be bombed out of existence?

VegetaIRL8e

wildeside wrote: »

So it's the ideology they represent and espouse you want to smash. Are you proposing their ideology can be bombed out of existence?

Ideologies and Hurricanes can of course be bombed out of existence

Timberrrrrrrr

MartianMessiah wrote: »

I support smashing the Ayatollahs and the Islamic state in Iran

These guys are every bit as crazy as Hitler and need to be need to go

Will you be on the ground helping with said "smashing"?

joseywhales

Ayatollahs and Islamic state are allies now?

What a world we live in