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US take out Suleimani - mod warning in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    alastair wrote: »
    But I thought one singular Iranian was responsible for 600 US deaths

    The coward sent others to die as he hadn't the balls to have a go at a single American ,

    And he ended up with nothing other than his smoulded hand dumped in a cardboard box in an economy seat on a charter flight.

    Bet he never thought trump would be the one who got him,

    Nodody did comedy at its finest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    Zavi13 wrote: »
    I really wish Iran well in hitting back against this bloodthirsty US regime and its desire for imperial domination of the Middle East region. When they decide to act may their bombs and missiles find their targets and may the Americans learn a bloody lesson as they did in Beirut in 1983 when Hezbollah sent 241 Americans home in body bags.

    You'd be happy with missiles hitting Doonbeg then and killing Irish people going about their work and guest's?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Sky news confirming the letter exists for the US to withdraw based on the wishes of the Iraq Government.

    Unconfirmed leaked letter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    6 B52’s moving to Indian Ocean base. Trump planning a totally aerial demolition of Iran?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    josip wrote: »
    Are you old enough to remember Ronald Reagan's presidency?
    I think he was well liked by the Irish.

    Ronnie went gaga and Nancy was running the gaff along with her spiritual adviser.

    Seriously think Trump has gone the same way.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    6 B52’s moving to Indian Ocean base. Trump planning a totally aerial demolition of Iran?

    Who's or what is the source


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Gatling wrote: »
    The coward sent others to die as he hadn't the balls to have a go at a single American ,

    And he ended up with nothing other than his smoulded hand dumped in a cardboard box in an economy seat on a charter flight.

    Bet he never thought trump would be the one who got him,

    Nodody did comedy at its finest

    He’d been personally at the coal face of battlefields for literally decades. he was held in extreme high regard by those who fought with him. Whatever he was he wasn’t a coward. Commander Bonespurs on the other hand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Gatling wrote: »
    The coward sent others to die as he hadn't the balls to have a go at a single American ,

    And he ended up with nothing other than his smoulded hand dumped in a cardboard box in an economy seat on a charter flight.

    Bet he never thought trump would be the one who got him,

    Nodody did comedy at its finest

    Is TRUMP a coward?

    Isn’t that what the US did by backing Kurdish militias to fight ISIS and the Syrian army?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    Gatling wrote: »
    Who's or what is the source

    Elint news


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Gatling wrote: »
    But mostly lost out thanks to clever accounting which left the Iran cut of oil profits hidden away then given a smaller piece of the pie .
    Amazing they allowed a shell company to set up in Europe which blocked Iranians servicing on the boards and a total block on Iran checking the books

    Pretty basic stuff


    So why do you reckon the US overthrew a democratically elected government and put a vicious puppet dictator in place.
    For the good of the people of Iraq ?


    Pretty basic question


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    You'd be happy with missiles hitting Doonbeg then and killing Irish people going about their work and guest's?

    That's rich from the lad who a few pages back wanted to see a funeral in Iran bombed out of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭threeball


    Its real possibility Iran has hundreds of sleeper cells in US and Europe. If the US hit Iran cities and culture sites, then we may see events happening here?

    Trump lunacy will result in more damage. I still don't understand what actually happened to make Trump so mad. His plan was not get involved in new middle east war, now he all in. I thought he was doing well standing up to neocons for a while.I guess the finally got to him.

    Iran won't come after Europe unless the dummies take the yanks side and send troops or planes. Right now their whole focus is America and rightly so. Iran have no history of attacking Europe.
    No doubt the lapdog Brits will give them a reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    What it looks like: Trump going to please base by bringing troops home out of Iraq. Having denied IRAN cover of proxy action obliterate IRGC and Quds via aerial bombardment. Re election.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    alastair wrote: »
    Use your own brain - they don’t have any nuclear weapons - so they’re not wiping anyone out in eight minutes. And the US admitted that the test wasn’t in contravention, so you should really stop trying to flog a dead horse. They were abiding by the deal, according to the arbiter agreed by all sides.
    You've never heard of dirty bombs?

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    6 B52’s moving to Indian Ocean base. Trump planning a totally aerial demolition of Iran?

    The US spent years and hundreds of B52 sorties bombing north Vietnam - a tiny area compared to Iran, without any real benefit. So no, that’s not very likely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,758 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    After the attempted withdrawals from Syria, will be curious as to how this one goes. Would be impressed if they actually did it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »
    You've never heard of dirty bombs?

    I have - they don’t wipe out countries in minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    alastair wrote: »
    He’d been personally at the coal face of battlefields for literally decades..

    Apparently not since the Iran /Iraq war after that it was others who did his fighting, till he arrived for a staged photoshoot and disappeared again ,

    There is very little information about any of his supposed battlefield exploits he pulled stings not triggers for the most part like others terrorist usually some mullahs tell them to go kill the infidels and become a hero and receive 42 virgins along with a chest full of 5.56 or a hellfire missile


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    pablo128 wrote: »
    That's rich from the lad who a few pages back wanted to see a funeral in Iran bombed out of it.

    I did.

    I'll ask poster again. Would you be happy to see Doonbeg bombed? Back up your post and be a man.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Sky news confirming the letter exists for the US to withdraw based on the wishes of the Iraq Government.
    Oh, bother.

    In 2011 Iraqi also voted to expel US forces after the Obama administration wouldn’t negotiate a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA). We’re still there.

    So even if the Iraqi government is much controlled by Tehran it is wholly dependent upon US for military support and its economy.

    And Trump just called their bluff.

    He said Iraq would need to pay the US for the military investments over the years first.

    “We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame,” he said. “If there’s any hostility, that they do anything we think is inappropriate, we are going to put sanctions on Iraq, very big sanctions on Iraq.” “We’re not leaving until they pay us back for it.”

    Iraq won’t expel US military troops. IMO, they’re appeasing Iran with a propaganda victory by the expulsion vote, and but they’ll allow US troops to stay and continue to have US military and economic support.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    alastair wrote: »
    The US spent years and hundreds of B52 sorties bombing north Vietnam - a tiny area compared to Iran, without any real benefit. So no, that’s not very likely.

    46 years ago. The B52 is simply a platform. Weapons have moved on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭X111111111111


    Sky news confirming the letter exists for the US to withdraw based on the wishes of the Iraq Government.

    Good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    alastair wrote: »
    I have - they don’t wipe out countries in minutes.
    But they can destroy a small country though some deaths but more importantly through panic and chaos.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    What it looks like: Trump going to please base by bringing troops home out of Iraq. Having denied IRAN cover of proxy action obliterate IRGC and Quds via aerial bombardment. Re election.

    I find it hard to believe they will exit Iraq peacefully...the only places they ever left was Saigon and Beirut, but that was after getting a little bit of serious encouragement :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently not since the Iran /Iraq war after that it was others who did his fighting, till he arrived for a staged photoshoot and disappeared again ,

    There is very little information about any of his supposed battlefield exploits he pulled stings not triggers for the most part like others terrorist usually some mullahs tell them to go kill the infidels and become a hero and receive 42 virgins along with a chest full of 5.56 or a hellfire missile

    Apparently you’re misinformed. And my understanding was generals are in the business of commanding / pulling strings, that’s not what terrorist do. Shias don’t buy into the whole 72 virgins business, just so you don’t embarrass yourself further. But then most Sunni’s don’t either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    US says thinning out troops in Baghdad. Staying in Iraq.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    notobtuse wrote: »

    But they can can destroy a small country though some deaths but more importantly through panic and chaos.

    If you’re now NOT promoting the notion of total destruction in eight minutes - They have conventional ballistic missiles that will kill more people than any dirty bomb would. It’s all nonsense, and I’d be mortified to try and repeat it as something credible. They don’t have nuclear weapons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    US says thinning out troops in Baghdad. Staying in Iraq.

    Are you just quoting random Twitter accounts now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    Are you just quoting random Twitter accounts now?

    Not random. Accredited. Good to get a sense of the chaos of Trump and the aftermath of S’s death.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Gatling wrote: »
    Apparently not since the Iran /Iraq war after that it was others who did his fighting, till he arrived for a staged photoshoot and disappeared again ,

    There is very little information about any of his supposed battlefield exploits he pulled stings not triggers for the most part like others terrorist usually some mullahs tell them to go kill the infidels and become a hero and receive 42 virgins along with a chest full of 5.56 or a hellfire missile


    You could as easily be describing Bush jnr. except he dodged getting involved in any battlefield exploits by avoiding the Vietnam draft.


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