US take out Suleimani - mod warning in OP

X111111111111

alastair wrote: »

Not for much longer.

You said they had managed to dislodge them from Iraq.

They haven't

X111111111111

Gringo180 wrote: »

I think chants would be a bit lower down on the scale of immorality than what the Americans carried out the other day.

Killing a terrorist?

Gatling

X111111111111 wrote: »

Killing a terrorist?

Sent Iran's biggest threat back to Iran nothing more than a hand in a cardboard box dumped in a economy seat on a cheap airline ,

alastair

X111111111111 wrote: »

You said they had managed to dislodge them from Iraq.

They haven't

Ask the Iraqi Parliament. They have.

X111111111111

alastair wrote: »

Ask the Iraqi Parliament. They have.

The Americans are still in Iraq.

If you can't admit you are wrong then so be it.

archer22

alastair wrote: »

They also have a domestic system which is supposed to be similar to a S-400.

They have a vast array of anti aircraft systems, Russian, Chinese and their own produced weapons.

They have copied and modified virtually all of their imported weapons and very successfully as they have some brilliant engineers, so what may look like an old weapon system on paper can in reality be a very effective weapon upgraded to modern standards.

For example the Iranian supplied missile that Hezbollah used to knock out the Israeli corvette in 2006 was an old Chinese Silkworm, but it had been upgraded and as was shown was well up to the job...it was in reality a Silkworm in name only.

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Ask the Iraqi Parliament. They have.

No they didn't .


They applised Iran with empty words for the telly and a non binding vote .

Key word -Non binding vote

alastair

X111111111111 wrote: »

The Americans are still in Iraq.

If you can't admit you are wrong then so be it.

The Americans sent the Iraqis a letter saying they’d be off soon. I think it’s fair to say that they’ve been dislodged.

X111111111111

Irans' economy is in the toilet. The Iranians will end up at the negotiation table within the year after killing a few american contractors to save face within the next few months.

The looney left will never admit it but President Trump has backed the down a dead end street and they are out of options.

charlie14

Gatling wrote: »

Just ask Ukraine about neighbours ..



5000 us troops in Iraq
But some how they have occupied and hold the whole of Iraq or some where someone is not telling the truth

5000 troops would barely cover Baghdad let alone a country of 437,000 square Kms. Over five times the area of Ireland.

The US is looking like a pariah in the eyes of governments and nations worldwide for refusing to leave a state when asked politely to do so.

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

No they didn't .


They applised Iran with empty words for the telly and a non binding vote .

Key word -Non binding vote

That’s two words, and, no surprise, it’s incorrect.

But according to Iraqi legal expert Tareq Harb, the presence of a caretaker government is not an obstacle.

"The parliament's vote gives Abdul Mahdi the authority and legitimacy to take measures to expel foreign troops in Iraq. All it requires is time and will," Harb said, adding that the vote solidified the parliament's support for him to proceed with such a measure.

"Now that the draft has passed, the implementation is in the hands of the current prime minister and whoever comes after him."

Kadhim agreed: "As the commander-in-chief, Abdul Mahdi has full authority according to Iraqi law to carry out this decision until a new prime minister is voted in."

X111111111111

alastair wrote: »

The Americans sent the Iraqis a letter saying they’d be off soon. I think it’s fair to say that they’ve been dislodged.

Nope. They are still there. You said they dislodged them.

I know this is difficult for you but just take a deep breath and admit you are incorrect.

charlie14

Gatling wrote: »

No they didn't .


They applised Iran with empty words for the telly and a non binding vote .

Key word -Non binding vote

Key words - Please fcuk off we do not want you in our country.

alastair

X111111111111 wrote: »

Irans' economy is in the toilet. The Iranians will end up at the negotiation table within the year after killing a few american contractors to save face within the next few months.

The looney left will never admit it but President Trump has backed the down a dead end street and they are out of options.

The Iranians have been working around sanctions for literally decades. They’re not going anywhere.

alastair

X111111111111 wrote: »

Nope. They are still there. You said they dislodged them.

I know this is difficult for you but just take a deep breath and admit you are incorrect.

I’m quite happy with my statement. No thoughts on the DoD letter to the Iraqi government then? 😂

X111111111111

https://twitter.com/eligold28/status/1214209300870111232

Gatling

charlie14 wrote: »

The US is looking like a pariah in the eyes of governments and nations worldwide for refusing to leave a state when asked politely to do so.

Not really no .


If Iraq wanted American troops gone why would they announce a non binding vote ,
Well knowing they aren't going to ask America to formally withdraw all forces ,

They might pull out if trump decides he's had enough but till then it's a guessing game

charlie14

alastair wrote: »

The Iranians have been working around sanctions for literally decades. They’re not going anywhere.

You would think from some here that countries have willingly gone along with these US sanction when it could not be further from the truth.

The vast majority are doing so because of the big bully in the schoolyard.

Cheerful Spring2

Lots of reports there heavy explosions on twitter inside Iraq. Not sure yet if false reports or something is happening?

Iranian response is underway it's happening, missiles have hit places inside Iraq

jmreire

alastair wrote: »

They’ve managed to dislodge the US from Iraq. They’ve asserted their dominance over Syrian Affairs. They’ve highlighted the absolute dogs dinner that the US is making of everything they touch in terms of regional policy.

No, they have not managed to "dislodge" the US from Iraq....the are still there, and even more of them, 3'000 extra, I think, and maybe even more enroute.
And no, neither have they asserted their dominance in Syrian affair's. Assad is still the main man in Syria. Even with Iranian military assistance, Assad barely survived. At one point it was thought that Damascus itself would fall even with Iranian help. It was the arrival of the Russian's that changed the balance in Assad's favour. And it's the Russians who are keeping him in power. Having said that, definitely Assad and Iran have very good relations and cooperation with each other. Both are Shia's, and so have a lot in common, especially as in Syria, Sunni's are in the majority, so Iranian back up is welcomed.

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

Not really no .


If Iraq wanted American troops gone why would they announce a non binding vote ,
Well knowing they aren't going to ask America to formally withdraw all forces ,

They might pull out if trump decides he's had enough but till then it's a guessing game

It wasn’t a non-binding vote, Mahdi didn’t actually need any vote - he’s the power to end the invite without a parliamentary vote - but it provided an ample mandate for his direction to the US military. He’s stated that they’re now drafting up the legal implementation of the removal demand.

X111111111111

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Lots of reports there heavy explosions on twitter inside Iraq. Not sure yet if false reports or something is happening?

There are explosions in Iraq every night.

Gatling

archer22 wrote: »

For example the Iranian supplied missile that Hezbollah used to knock out the Israeli corvette in 2006 was an old Chinese Silkworm,

Not true they got a single hit on a boat using a cruise missile not a silkworm anti ship missle killed 4 sailors but the boat got back to port and was repaired and is still in service ,

So they fired a big rocket at a relatively small boat and didn't even sink it ,

That's winning !

A bit like Syrians shooting down a russian plane with a russian Missile is that a win for Syrians ?

Timberrrrrrrr

Gatling wrote: »

Sent Iran's biggest threat back to Iran nothing more than a hand in a cardboard box dumped in a economy seat on a cheap airline ,

Why do you insist on repeating this idiotic line? Does it make you feel tough? Do you think it's funny (hint. It isnt)? You have literally slammed the thread multiple times with it, are you expecting (hoping for) a more adverse reaction to it?

Curious_Case

X111111111111 wrote: »

Winning? It's not a race for christ sake.

Iran are in a corner though and they know it. It's lose lose for them now.

Have you never heard the phrase "winning the propaganda war" ??

In my opinion Iran may come out of this very well indeed, especially if any other "big player" disuades the US from either a pre-emptive strike, from the air, on Iranian soil or a disproportionate retaliatory strike of any nature.

Iran is not a friendless pariah state.

charlie14

Gatling wrote: »

Not really no .


If Iraq wanted American troops gone why would they announce a non binding vote ,
Well knowing they aren't going to ask America to formally withdraw all forces ,

They might pull out if trump decides he's had enough but till then it's a guessing game

So you think the voted for the US to leave just for the crack like ?

Do you actually know why that vote is non-binding.

It`s not his country, why should it be up to Trump to decide when he leaves. I know he wanted to buy Greenland, but I must have missed him buying Iraq.

alastair

jmreire wrote: »

No, they have not managed to "dislodge" the US from Iraq....the are still there, and even more of them, 3'000 extra, I think, and maybe even more enroute.
And no, neither have they asserted their dominance in Syrian affair's. Assad is still the main man in Syria. Even with Iranian military assistance, Assad barely survived. At one point it was thought that Damascus itself would fall even with Iranian help. It was the arrival of the Russian's that changed the balance in Assad's favour. And it's the Russians who are keeping him in power. Having said that, definitely Assad and Iran have very good relations and cooperation with each other. Both are Shia's, and so have a lot in common, especially as in Syria, Sunni's are in the majority, so Iranian back up is welcomed.

The Russians came in after a visit from Soleimani to Moscow. Seems like that’s the sort of dominance that I was referring to.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-soleimani-insigh/how-iranian-general-plotted-out-syrian-assault-in-moscow-idUSKCN0S02BV20151006

Cheerful Spring2

X111111111111 wrote: »

There are explosions in Iraq every night.

This is the real thing, missiles have hit US bases.

Ain Al Assad base in Iraq Iranians have hit it with ballistic missiles according to reports.

30 missiles so far damn!

Twitter wrong i be shocked so many tweets?

Gatling

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why do you insist on repeating this

It's true isn't it .

Saying it twice is SLAMMING a thread now come on

charlie14

alastair wrote: »

It wasn’t a non-binding vote, Mahdi didn’t actually need any vote - he’s the power to end the invite without a parliamentary vote - but it provided an ample mandate for his direction to the US military. He’s stated that they’re now drafting up the legal implementation of the removal demand.

The Iraqis do that and the Donald`s ass is really in a sling.