When's calving starting 2020

Parishlad

Mooooo wrote: »

Fine heifer calf at 3.30 this morning from a fleckveih cross fecking stillborn. No hard pull or slow calving or anything. Right sickener

Sorry to hear that!

squinn2912

Wee snap of the twins was glad to get them both up standing and we finally moved with the times and used a stomach tube

RD10

squinn2912 wrote: »

Wee snap of the twins was glad to get them both up standing and we finally moved with the times and used a stomach tube

Love to see everyones pictures.
What breed are the calves?
Did u know you were getting two for the price of one?:)

squinn2912

RD10 wrote: »

Love to see everyones pictures.
What breed are the calves?
Did u know you were getting two for the price of one?:)

Nothing like it! Notice how everyone gives a wee thumbs up for a photo. It’s very encouraging.
Ha no clue! She never had a pair before either and I think she’s 12 now. Getting the extra quarter Too was a nice bonus!
Calves breeding is our stock lim bull. Haltcliffe Dancer x Tanko

stanflt

Dairy Heifer calf no 50 just arrived from a 3.95% protein 9000 litre cow
3 generations Irish breeding
Fr4746 x gzy x ruu

awaywithyou

a little question for ye lads... well over 100 cows calved here.... in general things are going good enuf... however of the last 10 cows calved 3 have been down with milk fever.... had no milk fevers prior to that....any ideas?

Gawddawggonnit

awaywithyou wrote: »

a little question for ye lads... well over 100 cows calved here.... in general things are going good enuf... however of the last 10 cows calved 3 have been down with milk fever.... had no milk fevers prior to that....any ideas?

Give free access to good hay precalving. Or better still give them just hay on its own if possible.

stanflt

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Give free access to good hay precalving. Or better still give them just hay on its own if possible.

I’m feeding really good hay and silage bales- zero cases of milk fever in over 100 cows calved- sprinkling dry cow minerals over the hay

mahoney_j

awaywithyou wrote: »

a little question for ye lads... well over 100 cows calved here.... in general things are going good enuf... however of the last 10 cows calved 3 have been down with milk fever.... had no milk fevers prior to that....any ideas?

More magnesium ,get some magnesium flakes from mayo healthcare and feed 120!gramms on silage along with dry cow minerals 5/7 days pre calving

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Dairy Heifer calf no 50 just arrived from a 3.95% protein 9000 litre cow
3 generations Irish breeding
Fr4746 x gzy x ruu

Was watching one to calve last night 2 ai companies interested in the calf. It was a heifer calf after a run of bulls.

GrasstoMilk

30 grams of cal mag either

GrasstoMilk

stanflt wrote: »

I’m feeding really good hay and silage bales- zero cases of milk fever in over 100 cows calved- sprinkling dry cow minerals over the hay

Where do they get there energy pre calving? Cabt be much in hay?

FarmerBrowne

Quick question, due to reasons the calf was never on the cow, she was born to a heifer, had been diagnosed with femoral nerve paralysis but seems to be well on the mend from that but it's a big job to get milk replacer into her, she is getting vitamins injected into her to improve the appetite but not really working,also I cannot keep injecting her, apart from that there is no loss on her, she passes manure and water and is very lively and alert, any ideas of how to improve the appetite or what else might be wrong with her? Thanks

stanflt

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Where do they get there energy pre calving? Cabt be much in hay?

They don’t need it- bcs is excellent because cows are fed to yield

Why would you waste money feeding a dry cow for no return

Buford T. Justice XIX

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

Quick question, due to reasons the calf was never on the cow, she was born to a heifer, had been diagnosed with femoral nerve paralysis but seems to be well on the mend from that but it's a big job to get milk replacer into her, she is getting vitamins injected into her to improve the appetite but not really working,also I cannot keep injecting her, apart from that there is no loss on her, she passes manure and water and is very lively and alert, any ideas of how to improve the appetite or what else might be wrong with her? Thanks

I asked similar in the dairy thread yesterday, the answers are below.

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

What do you folk do when a calf won't drink?

I tubed him at 6 this morning, 3.5l through the stomach tube. I was trying to feed him this evening and he has no appetite so I tubed him with 2l.

Had another one born just before him and drank no bother this evening?

whelan2 wrote: »

Leave him hungry until tomorrow. Or stomach tube with a life aid to put a thirst on it

Mooooo wrote: »

Generally give 3 feeds via tube to calves that don't drink and then skip a feed and they generally would drink themselves next time round. I try and teat feed every new born calf instead of tubing if I can as find it's easier to feed them subsequently but it can be time consuming depending on how many land in a day.

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Thanks, I don't like leaving a calf hungry for the night.

During the day, I would give a try around lunchtime again but I would like some milk inside them during the night. I was wondering how long people would leave them if they wouldn't drink because there's always one PITA who takes up most of the feeding time:rolleyes:

Base price wrote: »

Sometimes the sound of another calf sucking can stimulate them.

Mooooo wrote: »

Ah yeah, if feed number 4 is falling in the evening tube again and instead skip the morning one as it's a shorter time period

K.G. wrote: »

Once they get rhe first feed of biestings i never worry adter that.they always drink eventually

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Lol, as the older folk used to say, ‘hunger is a sweet sauce’!

When weather is mild and wet I’d be fussy about getting milk into them because of crypto, however when weather is good and not roasting, I’d go with the older folk...

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

A square of of chocolate in its mouth or some honey.
The chocolate sticks to the roof if the mouth and encourages them to suck

GrasstoMilk

stanflt wrote: »

They don’t need it- bcs is excellent because cows are fed to yield

Why would you waste money feeding a dry cow for no return

Feeding cows 2 weeks precalving here. Never calved down so well tbh.

whelan2

Had a cow with peritonitis this morning. Thought it might have been a displaced abomasum.

endainoz

Had previously used a pre calver mineral thrown on top of the silage, seemed to work fairly well. Have changed to seaweed meal due to being organic now. We'll see how it will go.

whelan2

endainoz wrote: »

Had previously used a pre calver mineral thrown on top of the silage, seemed to work fairly well. Have changed to seaweed meal due to being organic now. We'll see how it will go.

Use the calsea pre calver blocks here this last few years. Happy with them

Limestone Cowboy

First springer there now. Nice pull with her. Probably over fat aswell but she came straight off the winterage aswell with no feeding. Wouldn't mind a few more like her.

squinn2912

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

First springer there now. Nice pull with her. Probably over fat aswell but she came straight off the winterage aswell with no feeding. Wouldn't mind a few more like her.

Lovely!

farmer2018

Anyone having any problems calving when feeding hay or oats?

stanflt

farmer2018 wrote: »

Anyone having any problems calving when feeding hay or oats?

110 cows calved off hay and minerals- no retained cleanings or milk fever


What dry cow mineral are you feeding- how’s is bcs

farmer2018

stanflt wrote: »

110 cows calved off hay and minerals- no retained cleanings or milk fever


What dry cow mineral are you feeding- how’s is bcs

Yes, I find the hay and rolled oats a great job. Allsure bolus given twice yearly.

Limestone Cowboy

Just after having to do a section on a blonde x blue heifer. She had broke to the ch bull last spring and not a hope the calf was coming out the back door. She was fair tight anyway, don't think she'd have managed a limmy either, think she'll be one for the road. Pity because she has a mighty stock of milk.

squinn2912

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Just after having to do a section on a blonde x blue heifer. She had broke to the ch bull last spring and not a hope the calf was coming out the back door. She was fair tight anyway, don't think she'd have managed a limmy either, think she'll be one for the road. Pity because she has a mighty stock of milk.

Why not try an angus if all goes ok this time? Lot to do yet. We had one like that we thought would calve nothing and she spat out her second calf without any help
Might as well if you’re keeping her to rear the calf anyhow and if she’s quiet etc as well

grassroot1

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Just after having to do a section on a blonde x blue heifer. She had broke to the ch bull last spring and not a hope the calf was coming out the back door. She was fair tight anyway, don't think she'd have managed a limmy either, think she'll be one for the road. Pity because she has a mighty stock of milk.

The new set up stood to you this evening so

Limestone Cowboy

squinn2912 wrote: »

Why not try an angus if all goes ok this time? Lot to do yet. We had one like that we thought would calve nothing and she spat out her second calf without any help
Might as well if you’re keeping her to rear the calf anyhow and if she’s quiet etc as well

I'll see. If they are only capable of calving an Angus I'd rather something else. She was a funny in that she seemed like she should have been roomy enough when I handled her but was very fatty inside and couldn't open any more. Calf had enough of it anyway. Big swelled head on him by the time we got him out. I'd her shaved for the vet when he came, he didn't handle her at all.

Limestone Cowboy

grassroot1 wrote: »

The new set up stood to you this evening so

It's very handy.

squinn2912

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I'll see. If they are only capable of calving an Angus I'd rather something else. She was a funny in that she seemed like she should have been roomy enough when I handled her but was very fatty inside and couldn't open any more. Calf had enough of it anyway. Big swelled head on him by the time we got him out. I'd her shaved for the vet when he came, he didn't handle her at all.

Ah well you know your own animal best yea. Our wee one was a pt heifer and she got bulled on us young. Ended up with a show calf reserve store champion in the mart. She had two more calves and calves herself but never weighed any more that 550 kgs.

emaherx

5 cows calved now and my orphan twin has been adopted by another cow, so at least no more bucket feeding.

squinn2912

emaherx wrote: »

5 cows calved now and my orphan twin has been adopted by another cow, so at least no more bucket feeding.

Great when that happens. We’d a cow last year that would let one twin suck. He was great at getting a drop when the other twin wouldbsuck but then he died and the oul bitch wouldn’t let him near her. Luckily he was going round the cows and another one we dried off took him on. Strange she’s a giddy, flighty one but she pulled us out of that hole

Limestone Cowboy

After a week of getting up 2 or 3 times a night the novelty of calving season wouldn't be long wearing off.

Limestone Cowboy

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

After a week of getting up 2 or 3 times a night the novelty of calving season wouldn't be long wearing off.

Result.

squinn2912

Massive Lim bull last night around 2. Hard pull on the jack the cow was over fat. Delighted to get him out I was fretting over her for a while

patsy_mccabe

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Result.

Was he under pressure? Usually when they're covered in poo like that, they are in distress.

Mooooo

50 calved so far, 29 live fr heifers, 1 stillborn fr heifer, 1 aa heifer, a free Martin heifer and 19 bull calves. Lost one cow, last week. An old crossbred Norwegian red I had bought 2 years ago. Was fine in the morning and had her out with the rest and she was dead in the field later whatever happened her no marks in the field around her at all. She was a bit of a scrapper with other cow's so maybe something internally I dunno.
An over fat heifer in the calving pen now hopefully her condition won't complicate calving

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Was he under pressure? Usually when they're covered in poo like that, they are in distress.

We were both under pressure.

charolais0153

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

We were both under pressure.

That charolasi bull is making you fairly well acquainted with the jack , just aswell hes throwing good stuff

dohc turbo2

whelan2 wrote: »

I think they are gone dearer than mullinahone now?

Couldn’t answer that one , I’ve had not one tag of there tags fall off in the 3 years since I changed over

bogman_bass

Bad start to calving 2020 here. Found dead pedigree twins down the field this morning.
Not in the best of humor now

Albert Johnson

bogman_bass wrote: »

Bad start to calving 2020 here. Found dead pedigree twins down the field this morning.
Not in the best of humor now

I can't like that but you have my sympathies, hopefully there's better day's to come. The bit of farming I do wouldn't make or break anyone but I had a disaster of a year last year. It was just a mixture of bad luck and freak occurrences although it drove me near demented at the time. Here's hoping for better thing's and maybe this time next year we'll be millionaires!!!

Parishlad

bogman_bass wrote: »

Bad start to calving 2020 here. Found dead pedigree twins down the field this morning.
Not in the best of humor now

Feck, that's bad luck!

bogman_bass

I have a rule with these things. I’m allowed to be as pissed off as I like for 24 hours and then. Move on.

endainoz

bogman_bass wrote: »

I have a rule with these things. I’m allowed to be as pissed off as I like for 24 hours and then. Move on.

Rightfully so, sorry to hear about your misfortune. Only good things from now on!

whelan2

bogman_bass wrote: »

Bad start to calving 2020 here. Found dead pedigree twins down the field this morning.
Not in the best of humor now

Was she far from her due date. Hate twins

bogman_bass

whelan2 wrote: »

Was she far from her due date. Hate twins

Due in a week. Was holding on to read the test this morning before bringing her home

Angus2018

That time of year I come back to this forum again. 39 cows to calve here starting this weekend. 23 seasoned cows, 8 cows on their second and 8 heifers. All a mix of Angus and Hereford calves. No AI this year.

whelan2

Had a calf born on Sunday. I pulled him out. Noticed he had a full belly. Stomach tubed him and yesterday he still had the full belly. He was dead this morning. Must have had a problem with his stomach. Fr bull

Lime Tree Farm

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a calf born on Sunday. I pulled him out. Noticed he had a full belly. Stomach tubed him and yesterday he still had the full belly. He was dead this morning. Must have had a problem with his stomach. Fr bull

Could be Volvolus. Had one like that, convinced it was caused by a hard pull. Volvulus diagnosed by Lab, Vet said it had nothing to do with hard pull.