Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Leroy42

PropJoe10 wrote: »

As I said, a national embarrassment. I've no idea how the reporter stopped himself from challenging Trump. It's about time someone did.

Because the reporter, I assume, still holds the office and thus the office holder, in respect. It is a pity that the POTUS himself doesn't.

He is failing, all his faults are coming crashing into a reality.

And his line at the end of the exchange. "Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong!"

So basically, he totally admits he is taking a punt, but unlike in business where it banks and payroll, this is actually peoples lives he is gambling.

On who doesn't want a leader to say that they are simply hoping it will all work out?

Imagine Churchill - We will fight them on the beaches....maybe we all die, maybe we don't, but sure feck it, damned if I know!

pixelburp

PropJoe10 wrote: »

As I said, a national embarrassment. I've no idea how the reporter stopped himself from challenging Trump. It's about time someone did.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall of the known Press Corp watering holes. The air must turn blue from the suppressed frustration the likes of that reporter feel exploding out. Politicians lie and dissemble, but who'd ever estimate a President would attack you for seeking comforting words for the population.

Then again, this president couldn't make money from a Casino, so a pandemic must be really eating into his supply of aderol, or whatever other drugs he's rumoured to take.

Runaways

Penn wrote: »

Anyone who hasn't already and only read Trump's response in text, watch the video. F*cking hell...

https://twitter.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1241041962871881728?s=20

They don’t usually put cameras on reporters asking questions do they?

That guy might wanna watch his back now

Penn

Runaways wrote: »

They don’t usually put cameras on reporters asking questions do they?

That guy might wanna watch his back now

They regularly do when questions are being asked in the briefing room like that. It's not unusual.

Runaways

Penn wrote: »

They regularly do when questions are being asked in the briefing room like that. It's not unusual.

Right. Never seen that I don’t think. Thanks.

Leroy42

https://twitter.com/KateBennett_DC/status/1241052942406467585

Not much else to say. I feel sorry for Fauci. He was on Chris Wallace on Fox the other day having to defend Trumps claim that the Obama era regulations had caused testing not to be carried out. He didn't of course, because its totally untrue.

Runaways

Worth watching. He’s absolutely getting fired by tomorrow

https://twitter.com/mrvndn/status/1241046275249881089?s=21

Runaways

How many can afford access to them though

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1241102029176651778?s=21

mcmoustache

Why didn't Trump have a problem with how the Chinese handled this before his race baiting?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220818115354923009

There was some poster earlier who was really impressed with Trump's stance but he forgot to mention that this was another flip-flop.

aloyisious

Computer Science Student wrote: »

The narrative guides the market. There's no point even discussing it if you're not following that.

So your narrative is that the Chinese [or the Chinese Govt] are the cause of the virus outbreak worldwide and it has nothing to do with the fact that the virus cell itself is invisible to all without the help of powerful microscopes and that is how it got around and infected so many people?

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is there evidence of this?

CNN so I'm expecting fake news to be the retort from some of our posters.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

Thepoet85

So if this is being described as a Chinese disease, can we refer to obesity as an American made disease?

aloyisious

JoeFritzl wrote: »

It's no different from Chinese claiming it came from the US army

I missed the Chinese Govt or media claiming that. Is there a link?

Christy42

aloyisious wrote: »

I missed the Chinese Govt or media claiming that. Is there a link?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/chinese-official-says-us-army-maybe-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-2020-3%3famp


Granted I tend to twant my own officials to a higher level of standards than China!

mcmoustache

aloyisious wrote: »

I missed the Chinese Govt or media claiming that. Is there a link?

That was Zhao Lijian. Seemed to be pulling a bit of a Russia on it. Not that the poster's posts weren't full of doodoo.

ancapailldorcha

Post with insults deleted.

rossie1977

2.25 million new unemployment claims in the US this past week..that would be an all time weekly record

Sand

Penn wrote: »

Because it's assigning blame to a nation and its residents for a virus which could have originated anywhere and affects everyone indiscriminately, including (and especially) those in the country in which it originated.

It's about Trump pushing blame to another country and its people to cover up for the inadequacies and downright failures of his own administration in dealing with the problem.

It's racist to stoke hatred towards another country and its people for something which wasn't their fault and which they have also suffered from, to the point where racial hatred towards Asian people has increased.

It's nothing more than Trump trying to shift blame for the additional and unnecessary deaths which will arise from his administrations failures to cope with the pandemic. The pandemic would have killed American people regardless. But more will die than would have due to Trump's mishandling of the pandemic.

Its a good tactical move. It's something fairly innocuous, but which he can predict will elicit howls of outrage from the usual suspects. So the public debate becomes 'Is it racist to call it the Chinese flu/virus'? That is the issue people argue over.

The only winning move is not to play. But the US media is past that point.

VinLieger

If the numbers are what made Trump flip his lid today whats he gonna do if this keeps going the way it has been?

PropJoe10

VinLieger wrote: »

If the numbers are what made Trump flip his lid today whats he gonna do if this keeps going the way it has been?

That's extremely concerning, and I am very concerned about the spread of this in the US. Big city/metropolitan areas, population seemingly not that concerned and non-existent leadership. Not to mention a poor healthcare system. Dark times ahead.

Sand

PropJoe10 wrote: »

That's extremely concerning, and I am very concerned about the spread of this in the US. Big city/metropolitan areas, population seemingly not that concerned and non-existent leadership. Not to mention a poor healthcare system. Dark times ahead.

If PropJoe10 was President of the US back in December 2019, what steps should have been taken, all other things being equal?

Runaways

VinLieger wrote: »

If the numbers are what made Trump flip his lid today whats he gonna do if this keeps going the way it has been?

I don’t know if it’s comparable but I just saw this and it makes sense. Although frightening. When our look at the population of the US and the complete lack of testing to scale.
I can easily see the 10 million infected by April figure manifesting now

https://twitter.com/abiepb/status/1241110944941514752?s=21

BonnieSituation

Runaways wrote: »

How many can afford access to them though

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1241102029176651778?s=21

It's all about choice you see.

BonnieSituation

aloyisious wrote: »

I missed the Chinese Govt or media claiming that. Is there a link?

Always remember that that poster picked a username like that to be "edgy".

BonnieSituation

rossie1977 wrote: »

2.25 million new unemployment claims in the US this past week..that would be an all time weekly record

It's amazing just how socialist the UK and the USA have gotten all of a sudden.
It's going to be interesting how the wind down of all of this goes.

aloyisious

Runaways wrote: »

I don’t know if it’s comparable but I just saw this and it makes sense. Although frightening. When our look at the population of the US and the complete lack of testing to scale.
I can easily see the 10 million infected by April figure manifesting now

https://twitter.com/abiepb/status/1241110944941514752?s=21

With NY & other US cities following the lockdown procedures as in China and South Korea [a non-com country] the numbers in the metropolis areas should in theory reduce if strictly practiced.

@Manic Moran: Its not directly relevant to the US home situation per se, but with S/K & European countries being hit badly by virus outbreak, what is the situation with US land & Air Force units based abroad in those locations, plus US Navy in harbours - are they on curfew by order of their C.O's? They have to get provisions from somewhere.

Their actual strategic presence outside US borders is something I'm not questioning, just how much Don is weighing up one against the other, leave the US forces in virus harms way abroad or pull them home with the chance that it might be bringing more virus into the US.

VinLieger

BonnieSituation wrote: »

It's amazing just how socialist the UK and the USA have gotten all of a sudden.
It's going to be interesting how the wind down of all of this goes.

Not really the tory and gop voters are both recently shown to be capable of incredible cognitive dissonance, they likely wont acknowledge whats happening now as socialism.

listermint

VinLieger wrote: »

Not really the tory and gop voters are both recently shown to be capable of incredible cognitive dissonance, they likely wont acknowledge whats happening now as socialism.

Patriotic War money for an alliance against the Chinese virus invasion ... Or some such

peddlelies

Politically Trump was doing alright the last few days besides some blunders here and there. He let the experts speak at will and played the hard man calling it the Chinese virus after China continue to spread propaganda about its origins.

The latest axios/harris poll had him over 50% with a 4% increase. He ruined that today with his outburst, it was totally out of context and out of proportion with the question. Clearly the impact of the situation and seemingly uncontrollable increase in infections over there is eating away at him.

He's selfishly gonna be mostly thinking about his re-election hopes, Biden getting the nod and now this situation is a double whammy. The only thing he can do is try to be as Presidential as possible in the midst of a disaster then hope the virus dies off somewhat in time for the economy to have a bit of bounce back before November, I'd wager that's the strategy for 2020. Outbursts like today don't help him one iota.

spacecoyote

https://twitter.com/GHS/status/1241154807391342594

A good illustration here of how bad leadership is impacting things. Focus on the weekly % increase in cases.

The top 2 countries:
US +726%
UK +452%

And that's with the US bad roll out of testing, so likely considerably more cases unaccounted for.

That's the problem with poor leadership and messaging at the moment