Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

aloyisious

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Given Biden will be 78 for his inauguration if elected., his choice of running mate will be of great interest.

How much leeway will he have to make the choice to his satisfaction? Are the Dem Party Leadership prepared to put forward a woman for the V/P position solely on their own bat or will the Dem Party Women membership have to put their feet down and insist a woman is on the ticket? They have to know that Don will make personal attacks on any woman candidate they put forward for the position.

In reference to the things Don promised to the electorate, the main one was that he was going to drain the swamp. Total failure on that.

serfboard

aloyisious wrote: »

In reference to the things Don promised to the electorate, the main one was that he was going to drain the swamp. Total failure on that.

Let's examine the big three chants: "Build the wall", "Lock her up", "Drain the swamp". He didn't do any of them.

The one he did succeed on was "Less tax for billionaires", but funnily enough, you never heard that chant during his rallies ...

StringerBell

Deleted User wrote: »

I think you're very wrong about CNN. They are the opposite side of the coin to Fox. They are lambasting Trump because he's a republican first and foremost. Biden will mostly get a free ride by CNN not because of any stellar record, but because they are funded by the democratic party. That's how American media works unfortunately. I think its wishful thinking that Biden will somehow unite the nation. All these partisan news sources aren't going to change their tune overnight. The US is a bad spot and it's been going this way for a long time. Either side is getting further entrenched with the advent of social media echo chambers. I'm not sure what can turn it around at this point.

Best case scenario is Biden can repair some international relations, internally though, they won't stop eating themselves.

I think you are mixing up CNN with NBC tbh, NBC are almost completely open in them being the counter point to Fox.

CNN wouldn't fall to that level of the spectrum just yet, I know it seems like it because they have so much negative coverage of the President and because he calls them the enemy of the people etc but it is more about how much negative coverage the man generates. It is incredible, an achievement in some ways I guess.

CNN go after both sides, NBC not as much but depending on the type of controversy will hunt in a pack to get a wayward Democrat also.

Fox and NBC have always been very much one right and one left. CNN was always more in the middle, now I grant you it may appear like they are far left radical Trump hating whatevers, but that is more likely to do with how much material the man gives, as has been stated.

Matter of fact, in general Fox are absolutely out on their own in terms of mainstream media outlets. Obviously because they are the biggest of the lot but also because no matter what they will defend their team regardless. The liberal media circular firing squad is not a made u[ phenomena, the two sides may share some traits but the degrees are very different.

The Nal

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Can't understand how anyone would think one word out of his mouth is genuine.

That should be the case with all high ranking politicians.

aloyisious

Outlaw Pete:I'd posit that Drs Fauci and Birx don't contradict Dr Trump because they have the patients care at heart whereas Dr Don has his re-election to office at heart. They also know he doesn't give one hoot about the patient [the U.S]. They cant even go to some regularity board to complain about his behaviour and get him relieved off the care-duty he's supposed to be providing for said patient.

StringerBell

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So glad the Dems have adopted my recommended policy. When they go low, we go lower. Anyway, all they have to do with The Donald is to smear him with the truth.

Its one of the things I would have wholeheartedly subscribed to from Eric Holder, when they go low we kick them.

Professor Moriarty

StringerBell wrote: »

Its one of the things I would have wholeheartedly subscribed to from Eric Holder, when they go low we kick them.

Yeah. The Donald is incapable of being a reasonable human being so why try to reason? Just eliminate him and his cohort of cowardly Republicans by all possible means. It's the right thing to do.

Chips Lovell

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Cody montana

USA close to 1 million cases.

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Leroy42 wrote: »

But you also believe that the Democrats have been involved in many hoaxes to try to force Trump out of office!

Sanders didn't get the votes. He didn't get them in 2016, didn't get them in 2020.

THe US is not ready for a 'scoialist'. Nothing to do with the democrats.

I never once said anything about hoaxes.

Surely it has everything to do with the Democrats. They are supposedly the party of the working man.

Tell me how

Leroy42 wrote: »

But you also believe that the Democrats have been involved in many hoaxes to try to force Trump out of office!

Sanders didn't get the votes. He didn't get them in 2016, didn't get them in 2020.

THe US is not ready for a 'scoialist'. Nothing to do with the democrats.

Just to enforce this point, which I agree with.

Even as America started to be overcome with the Covid-19 and the panic that started in the healthcare system, Bernie saw no uptick in his votes in the primaries which have been held since that time.

I found that very surprising but the accusation of 'communist/socialist' is said with a particular venom in many places still.

Leroy42

hotmail.com wrote: »

I never once said anything about hoaxes.

Surely it has everything to do with the Democrats. They are supposedly the party of the working man.

I am not going got bother going back over your posting history, but to claim that you never mentioned hoaxes is a real stretch.

Do you think the democratic party should ignore the votes of real people to espouse a radical change in politics? You think they should just abandon the wishes of the voters because some people happen to think the US is ready for a radical change?

TomOnBoard

Cody montana wrote: »

USA close to 1 million cases.

Given the findings from the Santa Clara study by Stanford and the New York State one from last week (both still preliminary and not peer-reviewed AFAIK,) the actual number of infected cases probably exceeds 10 million in reality.

zweton

Is he on tonight?

abff

aloyisious wrote: »

:I'd posit that Drs Fauci and Birx don't contradict Dr Trump because they have the patients care at heart whereas Dr Don has his re-election to office at heart.

Absolutely nailed it! The only thing that matters to the Donald is getting re-elected. Everything else is a complete irrelevancy as far as he's concerned.

aloyisious

I'm firewalled from the Washington Post but got a breaking news headlines flash message deal with it. It's reported that A.G Barr has instructed U.S federal attorneys to prosecute cases against any Governors who infringe citizens civil rights. Its his job to ensure the citizens civil rights are not infringed, just that right now it maybe is coincidental when some governors issued orders to block mass meetings and others are turning to another policy favoured by the Trump Admin.

Edit: I cant see anything in the paper online, does anyone on the U.S side of the Atlantic have access to the paper or it's online version to confirm or deny the headlines message I got?

hotmail.com

Leroy42 wrote: »

I am not going got bother going back over your posting history, but to claim that you never mentioned hoaxes is a real stretch.

Do you think the democratic party should ignore the votes of real people to espouse a radical change in politics? You think they should just abandon the wishes of the voters because some people happen to think the US is ready for a radical change?

You have me mixed up. I have never once mentioned hoaxes.

If the Democrats field a candidate that has nothing to offer to the working man, is it any surprise that they vote for the Republican Party.

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Tell me how wrote: »

Just to enforce this point, which I agree with.

Even as America started to be overcome with the Covid-19 and the panic that started in the healthcare system, Bernie saw no uptick in his votes in the primaries which have been held since that time.

I found that very surprising but the accusation of 'communist/socialist' is said with a particular venom in many places still.

That's true, the opposition to universal healthcare in America is just as popular with Democrats as it is with Republicans.

If anything, the pandemic will probably strengthen the American attitude on private healthcare as it seems most of the dead are among the poor there.

pixelburp

hotmail.com wrote: »

That's true, the opposition to universal healthcare in America is just as popular with Democrats as it is with Republicans.

If anything, the pandemic will probably strengthen the American attitude on private healthcare as it seems most of the dead are among the poor there.

The polls I've seen do not bare that out. I don't have them to hand but support for universal healthcare has generally been in the 2/3s majority level for registered Democrats Vs 10-20% for Republicans. If you've seen a shortening of those figures please share. I'll see if I can find mine, likely coming from 538 IIRC.

TomOnBoard

hotmail.com wrote: »

If anything, the pandemic will probably strengthen the American attitude on private healthcare as it seems most of the dead are among the poor there.

Where is this published? Is it based on a scientific analysis? Please share, as the implication is very troubling.

Penn

Press briefing apparently back on for tonight

aloyisious

CNN are showing a rostrum and what may be a TV screen for video display in the Rose Garden for tonight's briefing, saying Don is expected shortly. OK he's walking to the rostrum now.

Headshot

Penn wrote: »

Press briefing apparently back on for tonight

I think the administration are aiming for something different and concentrate on economic revival rather than medical stuff

Water John

They've given him a new script, mentioning those who have died.

sliabh 1956

This is the same script that he allways reads from

Aidric

Love or hate CNN but at least they are holding this monumental bellend to account.

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Aidric wrote: »

Love or hate CNN but at least they are holding this monumental bellend to account.

CNN helped to get Trump elected.

sliabh 1956

He loves standing there and bossing people these guys are saying nothing new only what they promised a month ago.

aloyisious

Don:the governors have more ventilators than they know what to do with..... hearing that from him is like flicking a wall-switch from on to off.

aloyisious

hotmail.com wrote: »

CNN helped to get Trump elected.

Are you praising CNN the way Don praises Fox News?