Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

aloyisious

I think the word "morbidity" is being used by doctors when mention is made of underlying symptoms of elderly people who've been hospitalized or died of Covid-19. So yeah she's taking a page from Don's book with the "they say" including his waist-line as well.

amandstu

Journalists should not forget to ask Trump why he claims to be taking that concoction and not why he is taking it ....so that he gets that we don't believe him necessarily.

I am also wondering whether it is the zinc that appeals to him.They could ask him about that ("any side effects,sir"?):pac:

Foxtrol

Thepoet85 wrote: »

I never said he was smart. But it gives the media that's on his side an excuse to focus on a lesser issue than the relevant one at hand. I'm certain it's not his doing, but it works to his advantage constantly.

That doesn't makes any sense.

The media on his side doesn't need an excuse, they weren't going to mention anything about the IG no matter what happened yesterday, they would be chasing ghosts of the Biden/Obama conspiracy of the day.

A lot were however forced to cover Trumps comments yesterday because it was huge news. They however had to put some sort of caveat that their viewers should at least consult their doctor before taking and that opens up risk that the doctors will tell the person the truth. That is much worse for Trump.

FatherTed

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Plus , so far they've been building/re-building the easy bits - As already mentioned there's the geology/geography of some places that will make it much harder and slower.

And that's before you get into the multitude of lawsuits that will cascade down on them when they start having to issue eminent domain purchase orders for all the private land that the wall would have to go through..

For a "National Emergency" it sure is proceeding at a snails pace.

Also, there are these things called planes that transport people in the air. Most illegal immigration to the US is caused by people flying here overstaying their visas.

Thepoet85

Foxtrol wrote:

That doesn't makes any sense.

I apologise for having an opinion.

Foxtrol

Foxtrol wrote: »

That doesn't makes any sense.

The media on his side doesn't need an excuse, they weren't going to mention anything about the IG no matter what happened yesterday, they would be chasing ghosts of the Biden/Obama conspiracy of the day.

A lot were however forced to cover Trumps comments yesterday because it was huge news. They however had to put some sort of caveat that their viewers should at least consult their doctor before taking and that opens up risk that the doctors will tell the person the truth. That is much worse for Trump.

Just to add to this, the constant desire to claim 'he's playing the media' no matter how unhelpful it is to him is simply excusing the downright stupidity of his actions. If the media just called his words out for being as insane as they are, rather than digging for sanity or some hidden strategy, then we'd be in a much better place.

The NYT are terrible at trying to find 'balance' in reporting his idiocy, either twisting themselves in knots to find some far flung viewpoint where what he said could be normal or having in-depth interviews with a bunch of people with MAGA tattoos on their forehead that liked what he said.

Foxtrol

Thepoet85 wrote: »

I apologise for having an opinion.

No problem in having an opinion. I am able to justify the ones I have and expect others to do the same.

Thepoet85

Foxtrol wrote:

No problem in having an opinion. I am able to justify the ones I have and expect others to do the same.

Agreed. I felt my point was valid. Been a long day, so I may be wrong.

trashcan

amandstu wrote: »

Will he maintain a dignified silence

Hmm, let's think about that one for a second. Donald Trump.....dignified silence......I could be going out on a limb here, but I'm going to guess, no.

Water John

Can't remember it, but his retort to Pelosi was poor. Here it is;
“Pelosi is a sick woman,” Trump said in response. “She’s got a lot of problems, a lot of mental problems.”

BonnieSituation

Muahahaha wrote: »

Dont think Trump will be happy with Pelosi calling him morbidly obese


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pelosi-responds-trump-hydroxychloroquine-morbidly-obese/

Well, she used the Trumpian proviso "they say", so she's covered.

timsey tiger

No way on earth his BMI is just 30 odd either. That photo of him playing golf shows his belly and it is massive. I guess he is at least 36.

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/10/republican-group-attacks-president-for-golfing-during-coronavirus-outbreak-trump-just-didnt-care/

aloyisious

Muahahaha wrote: »

Dont think Trump will be happy with Pelosi calling him morbidly obese


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pelosi-responds-trump-hydroxychloroquine-morbidly-obese/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/19/nancy-pelosi-trump-morbidly-obese-hydroxychloroquine/5218979002/

William Cummings USA TODAY
Published 5:04 PM EDT May 19, 2020
President Donald Trump declined to respond Tuesday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling him "morbidly obese."

"I don't respond to her. I think she's a waste of time," Trump told reporters after meeting with Republican senators on Capitol Hill.

TomOnBoard

Water John wrote: »

Can't remember it, but his retort to Pelosi was poor. Here it is;
“Pelosi is a sick woman,” Trump said in response. “She’s got a lot of problems, a lot of mental problems.”

And she really knows how to get under his skin... "I think he should recognize that his words weigh a ton.". Her constant reference to weight in her responses are classic reinforcement ... Don simply can not deal with Nancy's verbal sparring.. He really should know better than to get into such a bout with her. It's almost cruel to watch... He hasn't got a prayer...

Sad to see Pelosi lower herself to his standards. US politics has jumped the shark for the bazillionith time.

the immortals

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sad to see Pelosi lower herself to his standards. US politics has jumped the shark for the bazillionith time.

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

Timberrrrrrrr

the immortals wrote: »

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

Can you link us to the posts where you yourself have called Trump out on the horrible things he has said about people?

Christy42

the immortals wrote: »

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

To be fair that is being incredibly nice to Trump. She used medical terms and how they relate to medication he claims to be on. I am not sure she is that worried it should be a worry to many that president might be on medication where he has a high risk of complications. He just calls people schoolyard names. Horseface is not a medical term.
I would add that the sheer volume is also different given this has been a Trump calling card for years. At this stage if someone is called names in politics then the comparison to Trump has to be made. I reckon it will be like that for years.

Professor Moriarty

Deleted User wrote: »

Sad to see Pelosi lower herself to his standards. US politics has jumped the shark for the bazillionith time.

I think it's a very welcome development and long overdue.I hope the likes of Clinton and Obama follow suit. When Trump and the GOP go low, the Dems should go lower. It's the patriotic thing to do now.

Quin_Dub

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I think it's a very welcome development and long overdue.I hope the likes of Clinton and Obama follow suit. When Trump and the GOP go low, the Dems should go lower. It's the patriotic thing to do now.

I'd agree to a certain extent - Biden should try to remain above it as much as possible to exaggerate the difference between their behaviours, but they do need a few surrogates , whether that's Pelosi or not, that will get down into the dirt with Trump and his surrogates.

They can't allow them to have a free pass on all of the guff they come out with.

abff

I agree that it’s inaccurate and somewhat hurtful to refer to Trump as morbidly obese, but it’s far less inaccurate and hurtful than a lot of things Trump has said over the years. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.

StringerBell

the immortals wrote: »

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

Is it just me or does anybody else audibly laugh when they read these posts?

aloyisious

the immortals wrote: »

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

The dreadful thing being so politely put and pierce his hide that he could only say "I ignore her" shows how effective Nancy is in being the MOM in the house.

abff

StringerBell wrote: »

Is it just me or does anybody else audibly laugh when they read these posts?

When I see these posts, I cringe. I don’t find anything remotely funny about Trump and his supporters. Laughable yes, but not funny.

StringerBell

abff wrote: »

When I see these posts, I cringe. I don’t find anything remotely funny about Trump and his supporters. Laughable yes, but not funny.

So you laugh?

I dunno, I find a lot of things funny, cringy, frustrating etc

When I see the faux outrage ones I can't help but laugh

Professor Moriarty

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I'd agree to a certain extent - Biden should try to remain above it as much as possible to exaggerate the difference between their behaviours, but they do need a few surrogates , whether that's Pelosi or not, that will get down into the dirt with Trump and his surrogates.

They can't allow them to have a free pass on all of the guff they come out with.

Good point. Biden needs to remain dignified to highlight, by contrast, Trump's egotistical rants. But at the same time, you need snipers such as Pelosi and Obama to smear Trump at every opportunity. He needs to be so caked in sewage that he's impossible to vote for.

EltonJohn69

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Good point. Biden needs to remain dignified to highlight, by contrast, Trump's egotistical rants. But at the same time, you need snipers such as Pelosi and Obama to smear Trump at every opportunity. He needs to be so caked in sewage that he's impossible to vote for.

I’m fairly sure sewage only makes him stronger.

Professor Moriarty

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

I’m fairly sure sewage only makes him stronger.

As in bleach and hydroxychloroquine?

the immortals

the immortals wrote: »

Typical, you couldn't even call her out on a dreadful thing to say about anyone without qualifying it as her lowering her standards to trumps, a previous poster called it her superior verbal sparring, the stink of hypocrisy is nauseating

What? Where's the hypocrisy?

Name calling is Trump's thing

hetuzozaho

abff wrote: »

I agree that it’s inaccurate and somewhat hurtful to refer to Trump as morbidly obese, but it’s far less inaccurate and hurtful than a lot of things Trump has said over the years. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.

I dunno, I think making fun of people's appearance is not a nice thing to be doing. People struggle with their weight/appearance a lot and it effects their mental health.