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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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    #9452
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,172 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Great headline to wake up to, trump sows division and promises greatness at Tulsa rally flop.

    Beautiful.

    Going from a couple of the recent posts in this thread his loyal internet fanboys are also butthurt which is an excellent bonus. I have heard of tears of the libs and sticking it to the libs and all that, not sure what you'd use in response because them lads surely aren't conservatives in the real sense of the word.

    Would suck it up buttercup suffice?

    Your boys ego certainly took one hell of a beating, I can tell you that.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #9453
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Using new software to make up tens of thousands of fake identity's. Easy knowing why Democrats are pushing so hard for mail in voting.

    And yet you've to forge 'tens of thousands' of state ids to register those ballots which are then tied to social security numbers and individual addresses. So rather than regurgitate the lines, explain how its done


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    #9454
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,585 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    A wind up playing up to a stereotype. I have already commented on that as well.
    I my opinion the use of the inverted political prisoners red triangle was funny.
    Because they knew it would get a reaction. Considering Trump is surrounded by Jews his daughter, son in law and Stephen Miller. I find it funny. I wouldn't worry about it no Jews are going to be exterminated under Trump's watch.

    That's really one of the most disgusting posts I've ever read on boards.

    Promotion of nazi symbolism, and everything that it historically represents, by the sitting POTUS should never be considered "funny"


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    #9455
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    And yet you've to forge 'tens of thousands' of state ids to register those ballots which are then tied to social security numbers and individual addresses. So rather than regurgitate the lines, explain how its done

    You're missing the point. It shows how easy it is to manipulate the technology. If they've everything tied down with the ids and social security numbers explain how hundreds of ex J1ers living in Ireland received the 1200 dollars Covid payment?


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    #9456
    Midlife
    Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You're missing the point. It shows how easy it is to manipulate the technology. If they've everything tied down with the ids and social security numbers explain how hundreds of ex J1ers living in Ireland received the 1200 dollars Covid payment?

    Really? Do you have a link to that?


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    #9457
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    Midlife wrote: »
    Really? Do you have a link to that?

    "Covid 19 payment to former j1 students may affect ability to return to US"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-payment-to-former-j1-students-may-affect-ability-to-return-to-us-1.4245643%3fmode=amp


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    #9458
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You're missing the point. It shows how easy it is to manipulate the technology. If they've everything tied down with the ids and social security numbers explain how hundreds of ex J1ers living in Ireland received the 1200 dollars Covid payment?

    No, I'll ask again. If you say it happens, and can happen with complex software, explain the process. How does one engineer falsification of thousands of ballots as you claim? Perhaps if you demonstrated the process you might get people to understand your situation better


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    #9459
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    No, I'll ask again. If you say it happens, and can happen with complex software, explain the process. How does one engineer falsification of thousands of ballots as you claim? Perhaps if you demonstrated the process you might get people to understand your situation better

    You are trying to say there's no chance that this could happen.

    We observed last night manipulation of software to create tens of thousands of identity's. And you're too blind to even see the corollary.


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    #9460
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,616 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    As some have pointed out, it not the size of the crowd itself that is the issue, it is the hype and the lies and the inevitable claims of suppression, misreporting, fake news etc that will follow.

    We will then be forced to wade through countless baseless and irrelevant theories and claims about left wing bias.

    But whatever way one looks at it, this is a disappointing event for Trump. He has been itching to get back out on the rally circuit, for a few weeks using the Press briefings as a surrogate before that fell apart, but he is faced with a distinct lack of enthusiasm.

    There are many probable reasons but the issue for Trump is how to generate enthusiasm over the next few months. I watched some of it and the crowd seemed subdued. He didn't have much talking points.

    His No 1 achievement, according to him as it is the 1st one he mentioned, as 300 judges. Around 300, 300+, then roughly 300! But whilst there are if course some that focus on judges, I would guess that for many judges are not No 1.

    He can't mention the economy or jobs without drawing attention to Covid. He can't mention Covid because it is such a disaster and he has shown to be totally useless on it.

    As far as I saw yesterday he offered nothing. No plans, no ideas. Of course 1st rally and 5 months so don't expect it normally to be a big announcement, but then this was effectively a launch of his reelection campaign. This was the start of the fight back to the polls.

    It ended up as a nothing burger.


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    #9461
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,616 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You are trying to say there's no chance that this could happen.

    We observed last night manipulation of software to create tens of thousands of identity's. And you're too blind to even see the corollary.

    Did we really?

    It was a free ticket with the most basic info required. There is a massive difference between people created a script to gets lots of tickets - is this actually the case or did people book and not bother? - and creating millions of fake identities.


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    #9462
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You are trying to say there's no chance that this could happen.

    We observed last night manipulation of software to create tens of thousands of identity's. And you're too blind to even see the corollary.

    The burden is on you to back up your claims, not on me to disprove them.

    So far you've provided zero evidence of a mechanism to falsify 'thousands of identities' to commit voter fraud, so please aid my 'blindness' as I fail to see the steps you took to get you to this assertion


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    #9463
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,483 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You're missing the point. It shows how easy it is to manipulate the technology. If they've everything tied down with the ids and social security numbers explain how hundreds of ex J1ers living in Ireland received the 1200 dollars Covid payment?

    The IRS screwed up and probably didn't account for J1 holders when rushing to release checks delayed by the #IMPOTUS insisting his signature be on them later to learn he couldn't and settling for his name only.

    Obviously these aren't 'fake ID's' as per your article, real people are receiving the checks and raised the concern.

    What's your explanation?


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    #9464
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,172 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    I saw one bit of the rally, spouting off about the radical left attacking and destroying their beautiful monuments.

    Same **** different day so really by the sound of it, the man offers nothing, a tired parody of himself at this stage.

    He doesn't have the energy he used to and his material is far from fresh.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #9465
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    You are trying to say there's no chance that this could happen.

    We observed last night manipulation of software to create tens of thousands of identity's. And you're too blind to even see the corollary.

    Huh? There was a viral campaign to apply for tickets and not show up. Where was the software manipulation


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    #9466
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Huh? There was a viral campaign to apply for tickets and not show up. Where was the software manipulation

    No, you're wrong. It's intricate software developed to create tens of thousands of identities to commit voter fraud. Do keep up





    /s


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    #9467
    banie01
    Registered Users Posts: 16,740 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    "Covid 19 payment to former j1 students may affect ability to return to US"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-payment-to-former-j1-students-may-affect-ability-to-return-to-us-1.4245643%3fmode=amp

    That article is a guess with no actual figures supplied.
    Indeed the sub headline confirms it's unknown how many people are affected.

    Further to that, those who may be affected are those who filed their US tax return as residents.

    So not a flaw with the tax system, rather a flaw with people not actually submitting their return correctly.

    Even at that, there is no number showing how many are affected by this.


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    #9468
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    No, you're wrong. It's intricate software developed to create tens of thousands of identities to commit voter fraud. Do keep up





    /s

    Where did I ever say it was designed to commit voter fraud? I said it opened the gates to potential manipulation. You're whole argument is based on optics. The optics of this look good for Trump.

    The same way the events in Seattle last night are a boon for him. How does it look when New York and Chicago both democrat run cities trying to defend the police witnessed their worst nights of gun violence in the last 40 years over the weekend?


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    #9469
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    The burden is on you to back up your claims, not on me to disprove them.

    So far you've provided zero evidence of a mechanism to falsify 'thousands of identities' to commit voter fraud, so please aid my 'blindness' as I fail to see the steps you took to get you to this assertion

    Ive said that it wasn't a bad night for Trump as manipulation, especially from a Chinese owned company, makes potential voter irregularities easier to claim.

    Please provide my quote where I once claimed that there would definitely be voter fraud?


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    #9470
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Using new software to make up tens of thousands of fake identity's. Easy knowing why Democrats are pushing so hard for mail in voting.

    Here


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    #9471
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Ive said that it wasn't a bad night for Trump as manipulation, especially from a Chinese owned company, makes potential voter irregularities easier to claim.

    Please provide my quote where I once claimed that there would definitely be voter fraud?

    How is a viral campaign manipulation? I'm stuck on this point


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    #9472
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Where did I ever say it was designed to commit voter fraud? I said it opened the gates to potential manipulation. You're whole argument is based on optics. The optics of this look good for Trump.

    The same way the events in Seattle last night are a boon for him. How does it look when New York and Chicago both democrat run cities trying to defend the police witnessed their worst nights of gun violence in the last 40 years over the weekend?

    My argument isn't based on optics, I'm making no argument, I'm just asking how you came to your conclusions


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    #9473
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Here

    Where is that saying there would be voter fraud? I've consistently said it raises the possibility.


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    #9474
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    duploelabs wrote: »
    My argument isn't based on optics, I'm making no argument, I'm just asking how you came to your conclusions

    Sorry what conclusion? I've made no conclusions.


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    #9475
    extra gravy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Ive said that it wasn't a bad night for Trump as manipulation, especially from a Chinese owned company, makes potential voter irregularities easier to claim.

    It was a viral campaign where people signed up to attend but didn't go. It's a simple as that. You'd fit in over in the conspiracy theory forum.


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    #9476
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Where is that saying there would be voter fraud? I've consistently said it raises the possibility.

    Jigging a free ticket event is not the same as committing voter fraud, that's where your 'possibility' falls flat on its face


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    #9477
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Sorry what conclusion? I've made no conclusions.

    Your possibilities belong in the conspiracy forum where no proof is required, the standard is somewhere higher here


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    #9478
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    How is a viral campaign manipulation? I'm stuck on this point

    Well if it was encouraged for example by a congresswoman to interfere with an election campaign by law it is. US section code 595.

    To be honest I thought AOC was involved in this prior to the event happening. If so she would have been liable for prosecution under the above statue. Having looked back it's clear that she only tweeted post the event happening.


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    #9479
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    jibber5000 wrote: »
    Sorry what conclusion? I've made no conclusions.

    Agreed. You have made no conclusions in any post.


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    #9480
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Agreed. You have made no conclusions in any post.

    Exactly. I made suggestions as to how last night could be construed as not being a bad night for Trump.

    Any conclusions that it was a terrible night for him are thus wrong according to your criteria.


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    #9481
    jibber5000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    extra gravy wrote: »
    It was a viral campaign where people signed up to attend but didn't go. It's a simple as that. You'd fit in over in the conspiracy theory forum.

    I read an article this morning claiming that the numbers were doctored by fake applications.
    It appears this was mistaken and that the tickets were booked legitimately en masse. I concede I was wrong on this front.


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