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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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    #1202
    looksee
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    osarusan wrote: »
    Silly from Pelosi I thought.

    When you're up against somebody childish, you don't lower yourself to their level, and give them cheap political points to score.

    There must be a stage though at which you are exasperated beyond reason and have to express it somehow, anyhow.


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    #1203
    everlast75
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    ricero wrote: »
    Embarrassing by Pelosi, a disgrace to her party.

    Lol

    "She's" a disgrace???

    Maybe she was "bleeding out of her whatever...."


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    #1204
    Christy42
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    I mean theatrics but it certainly several levels above honouring a man who believes the police shouldn't be called in cases of rape. And seems to believe it an insult to point out that the left wing would call the police.

    Ripping up a speech of lies is not a big deal for me. Trump lying about trying to keep pre existing conditions is a big deal and one which could kill many Americans if he is left in power.


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    #1205
    pixelburp
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    Just watched what Pelosi did and ... yeah. Sure, why not? Generally I would buy into the belief of the "adults in the room" approach, that those around the President should be above it all - but we're all only human and I daresay she has had enough of this utter vulgar fool of a man.

    Trump sits in the highest political office in the land and makes a constant, unending stream of gaffs, lies and outrageous comments on the best days. His brainless spoofing has literally caused crisis in other governments, New Delhi scrambling over non-existent Kashmir talks is my "favourite". I think we can find the latitude to forgive a career politician, someone who is serious about her job in running the country (even if she's part of the Establishment, however you choose to take that), having a moment of frustration and sheer FFS'ery.

    I haven't even heard the SotU Address and I'm going to go ahead it was full of braggadocio and utter bullsh*t.

    Any outrage against Pelosi proves the double standards at play: this is Obama-in-a-Tan-Suit all over again.

    edit: I also read that they ejected the father of a Parkland shooting victim for heckling Trump during his placations of the 2nd Amendment Lobby; that's a good visual, alongside the medal for Rush Limbaugh that must surely be taken as an intentional kick against the progressive wing of American politics. For a man who constantly talks big about healing or unifying the country, it doesn't reflect one iota in Trump's actions.


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    #1206
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    osarusan wrote: »
    Silly from Pelosi I thought.

    When you're up against somebody childish, you don't lower yourself to their level, and give them cheap political points to score.

    I think it was brilliant.
    Great symbolism.
    Cutting straight through his lies.


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    #1207
    Dytalus
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    Cody montana wrote: »
    I think it was brilliant.
    Great symbolism.
    Cutting straight through his lies.

    It's also completely stolen the headlines from Trump over the SOTU. Considering his narcissism is one of his most defining traits, he'll likely be raging over that. They're not talking about his 'great ad wonderful and best ever SOTU, people are saying', they're talking about "Nasty Nancy".

    No Trump supporter gets to complain about childish behaviour after Trump's habit of nicknames and insult hurling got him a presidency.


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    #1208
    hotmail.com
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    Could American politics sink any lower?


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    #1209
    Nody
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Could American politics sink any lower?
    With Trump around, always.


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    #1210
    everlast75
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    I swear to God, its the only play that Republicans have these days.

    Provoke, provoke, provoke and then when someone reacts, cue the outrage.


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    #1211
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Dytalus wrote: »
    It's also completely stolen the headlines from Trump over the SOTU. Considering his narcissism is one of his most defining traits, he'll likely be raging over that. They're not talking about his 'great ad wonderful and best ever SOTU, people are saying', they're talking about "Nasty Nancy".

    No Trump supporter gets to complain about childish behaviour after Trump's habit of nicknames and insult hurling got him a presidency.
    Outlaw Petezagate will be along shortly to give it a go


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    #1212
    hotmail.com
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    Nody wrote: »
    With Trump around, always.

    Most people in America, outside of forums, are just embarrassed by both parties. I don't blame them.


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    #1213
    pixelburp
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Most people in America, outside of forums, are just embarrassed by both parties. I don't blame them.

    Any surveys to back that up? I'm quite serious BTW: American politics is more theatrical than most Democracies, so I'm curious where and how you're reckoning people are embarrassed. It's a bold statement by Pelosi, but pretty tame in comparison with the slew of behaviour of the CiC. And just another in a long line of theatrics by elected officials. It's par for the course over there.

    I don't pretend to know inside the heads of the average American & how they view their elected officials: I suspect it's more water off a ducks back at this stage, given how these days it's more like the inside of a WWE ring than a house of governance, but I'd be curious if you have any stats or polls that might show an indication of embarrassment, antipathy or whatever.


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    #1214
    hotmail.com
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Any surveys to back that up? I'm quite serious BTW: American politics is more theatrical than most Democracies, so I'm curious where and how you're reckoning people are embarrassed. It's a bold statement by Pelosi, but pretty tame in comparison with the slew of behaviour of the CiC. And just another in a long line of theatrics by elected officials. It's par for the course over there.

    I don't pretend to know inside the heads of the average American & how they view their elected officials: I suspect it's more water off a ducks back at this stage, given how these days it's more like the inside of a WWE ring than a house of governance, but I'd be curious if you have any stats or polls that might show an indication of embarrassment, antipathy or whatever.


    No I have no data. Do you expect each poster to back up claims with data? It's boards.ie not a court room.


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    #1215
    [Deleted User]
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    No I have no data. Do you expect each poster to back up claims with data? It's boards.ie not a court room.

    Well then how do you expect anyone to take any notice of your claims? For weeks now you've been telling us that no one cares about any of this when it's quite clear that many do.


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    #1216
    pixelburp
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    No I have no data. Do you expect each poster to back up claims with data? It's boards.ie not a court room.

    Kinda, you're often keen to declare that nobody cares, or ask why we in Ireland even debate this so *shrug*. It's a bold statement, so I was mostly curious if there was anything behind it, and if there has been any surveys done on "faith in politician" or that sort of thing that you know of. Trust or Faith in "the system" is a pertinent question at the minute in Western democracies, and given the theatrics of the US system it'd be an interesting to see if these gestures are a net positive or negative. I'd lean to a negative, given it's more likely to generate voter apathy IMO.

    I'd say there's as many people proud, or at least respectful of Pelosi's gesture, as there are those embarrassed, or indeed outraged by this lapse in decorum.

    This is the default of American politics: don't forget you're dealing with a House where giant cardboard props are a regular feature during debate. Tearing up some notes is just another Wednesday.


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    #1217
    osarusan
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    I don't know, when you are dealing with an utterly childish character like Trump, I think it looks better to just emphasise the gap between his childishness and the maturity of the others, rather than responding in kind.

    There has to be a part of America that thought 'We'll give Trump a chance' 4 years ago and has since watched him become increasingly petulant and incoherent. They are one of the groups of voters to be targeted, and I think it's better that their reaction be 'Jeez,what a child he is' rather than 'Jeez, what children they are.'


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    #1218
    kilns
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    It ironic how republicans are so upset over Pelosi ripped up the speech considering their Senators literally ripped up their owne constitution and laws to enable the narcisscist in chief


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    #1219
    DrumSteve
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    She effectively took the steam completely from his speech with that one act.

    Hilarious.


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    #1220
    FionnK86
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    She’s a legend. That will really enrage him.


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    #1221
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,283 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    She effectively took the steam completely from his speech with that one act.

    Hilarious.

    I guarantee you we’ll see him rage tweeting about Nancy today.


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    #1222
    Cody montana
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    Have a look at the Fox News and daily mail websites.

    It’s at the top of the page on both.

    Checkmate!


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    #1223
    duploelabs
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    She effectively took the steam completely from his speech with that one act.

    Hilarious.

    Whats even juicier is that it's straight out the Trump playbook, pull off an unorthodox move to control the narrative and irk his opposition


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    #1224
    DrumSteve
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    Cody montana wrote: »
    I guarantee you we’ll see him rage tweeting about Nancy today.

    He posts so much guff on twitter I don't even bother reading his tweets any more.


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    #1225
    hotmail.com
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    duploelabs wrote: »
    Whats even juicier is that it's straight out the Trump playbook, pull off an unorthodox move to control the narrative and irk his opposition

    Trump does not have a playbook. He's a chancer.


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    #1226
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    She effectively took the steam completely from his speech with that one act.

    Hilarious.

    Would ya stop. She made an absolute show of herself and looked like a petulant child as she did it:


    https://twitter.com/KashJackson2018/status/1224902153875214336
    FionnK86 wrote: »
    She’s a legend. That will really enrage him.

    Why would that enrage Trump?? He'll be delighted that on a world stage Pelosi showed her true colours and came across just how he would want her to. Toys well and truly out of her pram and all because her attempt at removing Trump from office has been yet another democrat faceplant.

    Not that she hasn't come across similarly before of course as she was telling the media not too long ago that she was prayerful about impeachment and yet then went on Bill Maher fistbumped him and whilst grinning like a Cheshire cat childishly suggested that Trump will be 'impeached foreva!' Yeah, very prayerful.

    https://twitter.com/milesawaycu/status/1218432195892862976

    Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.


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    #1227
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Would ya stop. She made an absolute show of herself and looked like a petulant child as she did it:


    https://twitter.com/KashJackson2018/status/1224902153875214336


    Why would that enrage Trump?? He'll be delighted that on a world stage Pelosi showed her true colours and came across just how he would want her to. Toys well and truly out of her pram and all because her attempt at removing Trump from office has been yet another democrat faceplant.

    Not that she hasn't come across similarly before of course as she was telling the media not too long ago that she was prayerful about impeachment and yet then went on Bill Maher fistbumped him and whilst grinning like a Cheshire cat childishly suggested that Trump will be 'impeached foreva!' Yeah, very prayerful.

    https://twitter.com/milesawaycu/status/1218432195892862976

    Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.
    Since you're here Pete can you respond this this?
    duploelabs wrote: »
    Simple question Pete. what do you think Trump's flaws are? Both as a politician and as a human being


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    #1228
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Would ya stop. She made an absolute show of herself and looked like a petulant child as she did it:


    https://twitter.com/KashJackson2018/status/1224902153875214336


    Why would that enrage Trump?? He'll be delighted that on a world stage Pelosi showed her true colours and came across just how he would want her to. Toys well and truly out of her pram and all because her attempt at removing Trump from office has been yet another democrat faceplant.

    Not that she hasn't come across similarly before of course as she was telling the media not too long ago that she was prayerful about impeachment and yet then went on Bill Maher fistbumped him and whilst grinning like a Cheshire cat childishly suggested that Trump will be 'impeached foreva!' Yeah, very prayerful.

    https://twitter.com/milesawaycu/status/1218432195892862976

    Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.

    But still he has been impeached, forever!


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    #1229
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    He pettily didn't shake her had yet this is what is getting attention? Yawn.

    It was a silly act of Pelosi, we expect nonsense and foolishness from Trump, but we rightfully hold the Dems and most other sentient beings to a higher standard.

    However you can't be an apologist for Trump and then criticize Pelosi for this, unless the concept of irony is completely wasted on you.


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    #1230
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Would ya stop. She made an absolute show of herself and looked like a petulant child as she did it:


    https://twitter.com/KashJackson2018/status/1224902153875214336


    Why would that enrage Trump?? He'll be delighted that on a world stage Pelosi showed her true colours and came across just how he would want her to. Toys well and truly out of her pram and all because her attempt at removing Trump from office has been yet another democrat faceplant.

    Not that she hasn't come across similarly before of course as she was telling the media not too long ago that she was prayerful about impeachment and yet then went on Bill Maher fistbumped him and whilst grinning like a Cheshire cat childishly suggested that Trump will be 'impeached foreva!' Yeah, very prayerful.

    https://twitter.com/milesawaycu/status/1218432195892862976

    Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.

    You're having a laugh; here, why don't you reply to that post I made yesterday about Kevin McCarthy instead.


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    #1231
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    You're having a laugh; here, why don't you reply to that post I made yesterday about Kevin McCarthy instead.

    No no. I want more nonsense backed up by the opinions of Trumpers as expressed via tweet. That pattern of posting nicely highlights to the world how his worldview gets "informed".


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