Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

everlast75

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.

With quotes like these, you'll have to pay Dershowitz royalties or be sued for plagiarism....

everlast75

This is the tweet from the Secretary of State.

*This*

https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1224910919697944576?s=20

He doesn't think it is important to defend his staff from attacks from the president, but he can find time to tweet this?

(Incidentally, Lisa was crying because she found out the speech was nothing more than a rhetorical device to justify corruption)

Christy42

everlast75 wrote: »

This is the tweet from the Secretary of State.

*This*

https://twitter.com/mikepompeo/status/1224910919697944576?s=20

He doesn't think it is important to defend his staff from attacks from the president, but he can find time to tweet this?

(Incidentally, Lisa was crying because she found out the speech was nothing more than a rhetorical device to justify corruption)

It is, unintentionally, an incredibly accurate tweet.

Still I doubt he nor their supporters will get the context.

duploelabs

Christy42 wrote: »

It is, unintentionally, an incredibly accurate tweet.

Still I doubt he nor their supporters will get the context.

I'd like to think he's actually blinking in morse code, like to

kilns

Trumps passive agression on Twitter is a sight to behold he is retweeting anyone he can find but is holding off on attacking her himself

Its fantastic how she really can get under his skin

RobertKK

With Trump's approval rating at an all time high for his presidency at 49%. It is looking increasingly bad for the Democrats.
Their impeachment now looks ill judged.
Once Trump avoids war, he has to be favourite to win another term.

everlast75

RobertKK wrote: »

With Trump's approval rating at an all time high for his presidency at 49%. It is looking increasingly bad for the Democrats.
Their impeachment now looks ill judged.
Once Trump avoids war, he has to be favourite to win another term.

"Now that Trump has been impeached, it will forever be a stain on his presidency.

He has never secured an approval rating of over 50%, which is record for any president.

Once the democrats get behind their candidate, Trump's time is surely at an end."


See? Two can play the propaganda game.

Christy42

RobertKK wrote: »

With Trump's approval rating at an all time high for his presidency at 49%. It is looking increasingly bad for the Democrats.
Their impeachment now looks ill judged.
Once Trump avoids war, he has to be favourite to win another term.

It's about 43%. Nothing Trump has done has really pushed the needle in one direction or another.

People have made up their minds a long time ago. He didn't hide what type of person he was in 2016 so anyone who voted for him will likely be ok with him now.

While 43% on aggregate (or49% from whatever poll you have) is high for him it also isn't historically high given he has tended to be the least popular president ever recorded (not sure Lincoln had too many polls on his presidency at the time).

Red for Danger

FionnK86 wrote: »

She’s a legend. That will really enrage him.

She's worth about 30 million

Herself and Trump are on the same team, if you doubt that look at her actions down the years, rather than the theatrics.

Didnt she do some similar bull****e a few months ago, standing up and pointing, it got the very same reaction on here as it did in the MSM, all this is to distract from the fact the she does not represent the people shes supposed to be representing

All that money she raised for the Dem party was got by selling out the interests of those she was elected to represent.

Her achievements in office
1. Romneycare
2._________
Can you or tell me what else shes done.

Didnt she say lately " the green dream or whatever"
Says if all about her, pure monster.

everlast75

FionnK86 wrote: »

She’s a legend. That will really enrage him.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Why would that enrage Trump??

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1225050736435875840?s=20

briany

everlast75 wrote: »

"Now that Trump has been impeached, it will forever be a stain on his presidency.

He has never secured an approval rating of over 50%, which is record for any president.

Once the democrats get behind their candidate, Trump's time is surely at an end."


See? Two can play the propaganda game.

The Democrats are a divided party. The Republicans, on the other hand, did at least see which way the wind was blowing re:Trump and basically fell in line behind him. Sanders is a big problem for the Democratic party in that he represents this alternative that could be chosen, except the establishment really do no want him, and their rejection of him cleaves off a large percentage of would-be voters disillusioned.

What's it say about the state of American politics when Trump has had this low approval rating and yet is still being rated as having a pretty good shot at another 4 years? It must say that while he's not so great, everyone else is completely out to lunch.

Christy42

briany wrote: »

The Democrats are a divided party. The Republicans, on the other hand, did at least see which way the wind was blowing re:Trump and basically fell in line behind him. Sanders is a big problem for the Democratic party in that he represents this alternative that could be chosen, except the establishment really do no want him, and their rejection of him cleaves off a large percentage of would-be voters disillusioned.

What's it say about the state of American politics when Trump has had this low approval rating and yet is still being rated as having a pretty good shot at another 4 years? It must say that while he's not so great, everyone else is completely out to lunch.

The Republicans were divided this time 4 years ago. It is the nature of the primary system. Never Trumpers was a thing in the Republican party 4 years ago. Then they realised they like money more than their ideals and fell in line pretty sharpish.

serfboard

Christy42 wrote: »

Never Trumpers was a thing in the Republican party 4 years ago.

That's because at first they thought that Trump was actually going to do what he said and make lives better for ordinary people.

They got behind him when they realised he had no such intention.

everlast75

Red for Danger wrote: »

Her achievements in office
1. Romneycare
2._________
Can you or tell me what else shes done.

1. Biggest gain by the House in the midterms since Nixon
2. impeached a corrupt President
3. Got Trump to back down and embarrassed him when he shut down the government.

A fourth achievement could probably be achieving free rent inside his head.

FreeThePants

RobertKK wrote: »

With Trump's approval rating at an all time high for his presidency at 49%. It is looking increasingly bad for the Democrats.
Their impeachment now looks ill judged.
Once Trump avoids war, he has to be favourite to win another term.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

You're much better off following an aggregator than individual results which an vary quite a bit, even if released on the same day. For example one from three days ago in the link above has him at 41%, though the average is at 43.5%.

Whichever you look at it though, doesn't change the fact that all numbers are not good for Trumps chances, as no president has ever won reelection with their approval rating below 50%.

Trumps biggest ace up the sleeve however, is election fraud. We have seen the republicans get caught doing it before, and I would be pretty shocked if it weren't teh case this year again.

FreeThePants

serfboard wrote: »

That's because at first they thought that Trump was actually going to do what he said and make lives better for ordinary people.

They got behind him when they realised he had no such intention.

In honesty, anyone even remotely familiar with Trump knew it had nothing to do with helping the everyday worker. Even many of the rust belters turned out to not really care much about their mining jobs not coming back, when that was supposedly why they wanted him over Clinton as essentially a single issue voter bloc.

Also worth noting that as per Donald Trump and his own supporters the unemployment rate is still at about 40% due to the labour participation rate being at 63%. This is the standard they wanted it based on, after all.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1225073838976831488?s=20

Back to work for the Dems.

Let's see how Bolton responds.

FreeThePants

everlast75 wrote: »

Let's see how Bolton responds.

According to GOP strategists, Trump is going to try to force Bolton's arrest - http://www.newsweek.com/gop-strategist-donald-trump-likely-imprison-john-bolton-impeachment-vote-1485558

Now that would be a scary precedent, and makes you wonder what his response will be. Just look at Lev Parnas who is releasing anything and everything he can to just get it out in the open, because he says he fears Bill Barr. Considering what happened to Epstein while he was the highest profile prisoner under Barrs watch, I would be worried too.

Stallingrad

FreeThePants wrote: »

According to GOP strategists, Trump is going totfy to force bolton arrest - http://www.newsweek.com/gop-strategist-donald-trump-likely-imprison-john-bolton-impeachment-vote-1485558

F**k me. The Whistleblower named, arrests as payback. Dissent is a dangerous game in the 'World's Greatest Democracy'.

What is happening over there, the country is unrecognisable.

aloyisious

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Would ya stop. She made an absolute show of herself and looked like a petulant child as she did it:


https://twitter.com/KashJackson2018/status/1224902153875214336


Why would that enrage Trump?? He'll be delighted that on a world stage Pelosi showed her true colours and came across just how he would want her to. Toys well and truly out of her pram and all because her attempt at removing Trump from office has been yet another democrat faceplant.

Not that she hasn't come across similarly before of course as she was telling the media not too long ago that she was prayerful about impeachment and yet then went on Bill Maher fistbumped him and whilst grinning like a Cheshire cat childishly suggested that Trump will be 'impeached foreva!' Yeah, very prayerful.

https://twitter.com/milesawaycu/status/1218432195892862976

Someone needs to tell Nancy that later today Donald Trump will be acquitted forever.

I suppose it's no use pointing out to you that it's polite to shake the hand of your host when it's offered to you, a sign that civility is the order of the day/evening during the dinner/event. Turning your back on your host at the moment the hand is offered is the height of insult: a visual F/U from Don to Nancy and everyone watching that there'll be no armistice for or during his state of the union speech, an ironic moment in time that wasn't wasted by Don to make his point.

aloyisious

FreeThePants wrote: »

According to GOP strategists, Trump is going totfy to force bolton arrest - http://www.newsweek.com/gop-strategist-donald-trump-likely-imprison-john-bolton-impeachment-vote-1485558

Now that would be a scary precedent, and makes you wonder what his response will be. Just look at Lev Parnas who is releasing anything and everything he can to just get it out in the open, because he says he fears Bill Barr. Considering what happened to Epstein while he was the highest profile prisoner under Barrs watch, I would be worried too.

Preventive detention to stop more "lies" being told by an ex staffer because "ordering" the staff to ignore subpoenas won't work in this case. If this IS tried on, it should end before the courts ASAP for over-ruling.

FreeThePants

Stallingrad wrote: »

F**k me. The Whistleblower named, arrests as payback. Dissent is a dangerous game in the 'World's Greatest Democracy'.

What is happening over there, the country is unrecognisable.

The rise of fascism is what's happening. Funny enough I'm listening to a podcast on Gabriele d'Annunzio, the guy who founded fascism, and apart from the fact that d'Annunzio beyond being a monstrous POS was actually extremely intelligent and eloquent with words, the similarities between him and his rise vs Trumps are startling.

Rjd2

pixelburp wrote: »

Just watched what Pelosi did and ... yeah. Sure, why not? Generally I would buy into the belief of the "adults in the room" approach, that those around the President should be above it all - but we're all only human and I daresay she has had enough of this utter vulgar fool of a man.


Any outrage against Pelosi proves the double standards at play: this is Obama-in-a-Tan-Suit all over again.

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Maybe just maybe both were wrong? Don't forget she did not introduce him properly.

Its typical American politics this though, the echo chamber culture war loving superstars on all sides focus on the most trivial of things when their was much more alarming issues last night.

Trump was back in Bannon mode regarding immigrants and the speech itself was and been kind here at times a little misleading.

The Dems and Pelosi especially going wild over Guaido was a grim sight also.

A blatant attempt at regime change by Trump and the Dems at the time bar a few dissenting voices in the house were all in. Shocking moment indeed.

sid waddell

Stallingrad wrote: »

F**k me. The Whistleblower named, arrests as payback. Dissent is a dangerous game in the 'World's Greatest Democracy'.

What is happening over there, the country is unrecognisable.

The podcast Gaslit Nation has predicted all this at every step of the way and has been miles ahead of the corporate owned media in its analysis. Required listening.

https://www.patreon.com/gaslit

pixelburp

This was probably lost amongst the weeds of acrimony over Pelosi's actions (though the news is nearly a week old), but if there was any doubt about Trump's mandate to basically tear up anything with Obama's signature on it, and damn the consequences, it can't surely persist:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51332541

"Trump lifts restrictions on US landmine use"

Go on, please. Someone. Someone please explain how between this and similar like the binning of the Nuclear Armament Treaty makes the world a safer place. Or what the benefit here is - beyond those due a financial windfall of course. Oh but he hasn't started a war!

This is a decision that'll be felt years after US forces are removed from a country or region; we know - or should know - all about the tragedy of innocents in Cambodia et al blown apart by mines forgotten in civilian areas. I imagine this is now a potential future for those living in occupied areas.

duploelabs

pixelburp wrote: »

This was probably lost amongst the weeds of acrimony over Pelosi's actions (though the news is nearly a week old), but if there was any doubt about Trump's mandate to basically tear up anything with Obama's signature on it, and damn the consequences, it can't surely persist:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51332541

"Trump lifts restrictions on US landmine use"

Go on, please. Someone. Someone please explain how between this and similar like the binning of the Nuclear Armament Treaty makes the world a safer place. Or what the benefit here is - beyond those due a financial windfall of course. Oh but he hasn't started a war!

This is a decision that'll be felt years after US forces are removed from a country or region; we know - or should know - all about the tragedy of innocents in Cambodia et al blown apart by mines forgotten in civilian areas. I imagine this is now a potential future for those living in occupied areas.

But he upped the Ukraine aid from 'blankets' to Javelins

FreeThePants

pixelburp wrote: »

This is a decision that'll be felt years after US forces are removed from a country or region; we know - or should know - all about the tragedy of innocents in Cambodia et al blown apart by mines forgotten in civilian areas. I imagine this is now a potential future for those living in occupied areas.

One of my more enduring childhood memories is princess Diana's war against landmines, and how big a deal it was that she was going through landmined areas to prove her point.

It's beyond ludicrous to think they're coming back, but I fully expect his supporters to either declare it the best thing ever, pretend it never happened, or most likely (and I'm not joking here) claim it was Obama's doing and Trump is doing all he can to fix this mess.

Trunpism is a cult, you don't even need to look past this forum for evidence.

sid waddell

pixelburp wrote: »

This was probably lost amongst the weeds of acrimony over Pelosi's actions (though the news is nearly a week old), but if there was any doubt about Trump's mandate to basically tear up anything with Obama's signature on it, and damn the consequences, it can't surely persist:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51332541

"Trump lifts restrictions on US landmine use"

Go on, please. Someone. Someone please explain how between this and similar like the binning of the Nuclear Armament Treaty makes the world a safer place. Or what the benefit here is - beyond those due a financial windfall of course. Oh but he hasn't started a war!

This is a decision that'll be felt years after US forces are removed from a country or region; we know - or should know - all about the tragedy of innocents in Cambodia et al blown apart by mines forgotten in civilian areas. I imagine this is now a potential future for those living in occupied areas.

I actually linked to that story here last week. Not one Trump supporter engaged.

pixelburp

sid waddell wrote: »

I actually linked to that story here last week. Not one Trump supporter engaged.

I guess outrage over the theatrics of Schiff or Pelosi is an easier path than actually having to defend outwardly immoral, reprehensible legislation by their chosen Team, or parse it as a net positive to the state of the world.

At this stage, I'd sooner Trump DID start a war, if only because it'll be an overt and inescapable act, as opposed to this insidious drip feed of aborted legislation, demonstrably making the world less safe yet ignored by the Ultras.

FreeThePants

sid waddell wrote: »

I actually linked to that story here last week. Not one Trump supporter engaged.

"Pretend it never happened" it is then. It's bizarre how obvious they are as a whole, every time.

The same for Trump d*cking about during the anthem a few days ago. Their radio silence just proves that their hand up on the NFL anthen kneeling had nothing to do with the anthem, and everything to do with wanting those uppity minorities to just shut their mouths and know their place.