Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

aloyisious

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I’m behind on the pearls of wisdom from this administration and I’ve just heard mick Mulvaney taking ****e about the Coronavirus and apparently the media are covering it because they the media are thinking it will bring him down. Are they actually for real ?

They're talking to their friends and lying to the public so nothings changed. Don Jnr was on Fox & Friends commenting that the Dems wanted his father's winning streak to be ended by millions of Americans being killed by the Coronavirus, ending his comment with the words "it was sick". Clearly the intent of the comment and the follow-up pun [sick in itself given the issue] is to enrage the Dems into shooting from the lip.

The aim is to draw attention away from Don and any silly sounding tweet or comment that he'd make that he knows everything there is to know about the virus.

duploelabs

I think we've reached peak Trump.
He's now saying that coronavirus is the new democratic hoax.


“One of my people came up to me and said ‘Mr. President they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well.’ They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax that was on a perfect conversation,” he continued.
“This is their new hoax,” he said, referring to the coronavirus.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html

everlast75

duploelabs wrote: »

I think we've reached peak Trump.
He's now saying that coronavirus is the new democratic hoax.


“One of my people came up to me and said ‘Mr. President they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well.’ They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax that was on a perfect conversation,” he continued.
“This is their new hoax,” he said, referring to the coronavirus.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/trump-says-the-coronavirus-is-the-democrats-new-hoax.html

Now. If you're a Trump follower you either

1) Believe what he is saying, which is manifestly insane, or

2) think this is harmless and funny, in which case you are equally insane.

He is literally ignoring the scientists, the research, the statistics and he's putting real lives in jeopardy.

hotmail.com

everlast75 wrote: »

Now. If you're a Trump follower you either

1) Believe what he is saying, which is manifestly insane, or

2) think this is harmless and funny, in which case you are equally insane.

He is literally ignoring the scientists, the research, the statistics and he's putting real lives in jeopardy.

Nice. Calling people insane now because of their opinions. Perhaps you're taking Trump too seriously?

Sonics2k

everlast75 wrote: »

Now. If you're a Trump follower you either

1) Believe what he is saying, which is manifestly insane, or

2) think this is harmless and funny, in which case you are equally insane.

He is literally ignoring the scientists, the research, the statistics and he's putting real lives in jeopardy.

Let's be frank here, he's literally ignoring all the dead people.

pixelburp

hotmail.com wrote: »

Nice. Calling people insane now because of their opinions. Perhaps you're taking Trump too seriously?

Oh, is this another "he's only joking?" explanation? Was he joking when he shot down a doctor asserting that Corona was more lethal than normal flu? Nope, he had to be the man in charge. Trump is an ignoramus at the best of times. But in this scenario his swaggering arrogance is dangerous. When it comes to disease pandemics, you don't joke and you don't have "opinions", least of all from political leaders. Instead we've got waffling apathy and false information.

I just hope this negligence doesn't make things worse for Americans, once Corona appears in earnest. Hopefully the US's geographic distance from the epicentre works in their favour

greenfield21

Its sort of funny what this virus will achieve trump could only dream of with his china tariffs. A mistake for him was constantly talking up the stock market considering alot of these companies make the majority of revenue oversea.

Timberrrrrrrr

hotmail.com wrote: »

Nice. Calling people insane now because of their opinions. Perhaps you're taking Trump too seriously?

If someone has insane opinions then it's ok to call them insane.

Do you think flat earthers or people who believe in Lizard overlords are sane? Have you ever seen a David Icke interview? Would you class him as sane? What about people who murder because they hear "gods" voice telling them to do it?

salmocab

Surely calling people names is exactly where the American presidency has dragged everything around it to? Name calling like a moronic 7 year old is his thing and his supporters seem to be happy with the level things have got to.

briany

How does that even work in Trump's mind? Like, it'd be a tough ask even for him to draw any kind of link between the Dems attempting to oust him and the Coronavirus.

Actually, in saying that, I don't think Trump believes a word of what he's saying. He's playing up to the same type of person who thought Obama was a muslim terrorist. That crowd will readily swallow the idea that everything against Trump is some kind of conspiracy/hoax, and ask for seconds.

Also, never underestimate Trump's propensity to distract and deflect. He could go on Twitter and say, "The moon landings were faked, and I have evidence!". Then, while there's a week-long **** storm over that tweet, his administration could 'quietly' pass legislation completely privatising the police force in the USA.

And the Donald would shake his head, chuckle and say, "What a bunch of rubes..."

Gbear

hotmail.com wrote: »

Nice. Calling people insane now because of their opinions. Perhaps you're taking Trump too seriously?

What a pathetic asinine post.


A pandemic is literally a matter of life and death. There have already been thousands of deaths from this disease. It is absolutely not even remotely hyperbolic to suggest it has the potential to kill millions around the globe if no adequate treatment or prevention is found, and it cannot be sufficiently quarantined. The manufacturing centre of the planet is currently in lockdown. Maybe you should tell the Chinese that it's no biggy, and we don't have to take it seriously, so they can all go back to work?


This snide nonsense you keep peddling about getting to pretend you're somehow above other people because you think politics isn't important, or because you think who the person responsible for leading the response, arguably globally, and certainly on behalf of the most powerful country on the planet, where most of the pharmaceuticals are made, and specialists in combating the issue reside, is a matter of trivia, just makes you look like an infant.


If Trump had done literally nothing else wrong and had thus far had as an embarrassing a response to this, that alone would be grounds to suggest he's not fit to lead. To suggest that this is a hoax designed to damage his presidency is astonishing narcissism and dangerous bull**** that could cause people to die. There's already enough science-denialism from his supporters around incredibly important issues such as vaccination and climate change. We do not need further stupidity slowing the planet's response to issues that threaten billions of people.

You've shown nothing at any time posting in this thread that you're capable of arguing in good faith, or that you have anything of value to add to the discussion. If you think you're above this discussion forum, then it speaks even more poorly of you that you choose to waste your time on it talking ****e.

Christy42

hotmail.com wrote: »

Nice. Calling people insane now because of their opinions. Perhaps you're taking Trump too seriously?

Are you suggesting are attitude should be lol what is he like. Thousands of lives at risk because of him. Classic Trump?

He is the man in charge here when there is the potential of a serious epidemic to break out. Why exactly would people not take that seriously.


As for name calling. The poster only called those who believe the virus is a hoax (i.e. believe Trump) or who believe the virus isn't a big deal (we have many people dead already) insane. Which of those two groups are you going to defend here?

valoren

You would expect a competent President to convey the message that the administration is ready, it will meet the challenge to contain the spread of the virus and will deploy funding to eliminate it in US Society. It would almost sound presidential. A serious message about a serious problem delivered by a serious man. Instead, you get a spoofer, an idiotic fcukwit who is more interested in the fact the virus has impacted on the stock market (a key goal for any realistic re-election chances) than conveying such a message, who is more interested in exploiting the problem and using it to blame it all on his political opponents spreading lies and misinformation about the problem. It’s one thing to think Trump is a moron so deep in over his head that it provides a laugh on a daily basis but when his deflective “nothing to see here/it’s Democrat LIES” denials will result in the deaths of Americans then it ceases to be a laughing matter. That can't be defended in any rational way.

It’s a serious problem, it needs serious action and serious people to take that action and not a self-absorbed egotistical braggart who has no idea what he is talking about. Internationally, that serious action by seriously concerned people is thankfully currently happening. Trumps press conference was both deeply embarrassing and a clear insight into how deluded the man is but also very worrying for US society as this moron, who has been actively cutting the exact resources required to successfully fight such pandemics, is supposed to be in charge.

looksee

A rather chilling article about the 'Spanish' flu and the numbers it killed. The story resonates, differences being that then they had a war to take into account, and they did not have the communications capabilities that we have now.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/

Hande hoche!

So seems like the Afghanistan deal is going ahead, will be curious to see how well it holds up. Imagine the Taliban will at least attempt to reign in their fighter for a limited time. Might make an interesting question matter for the next DNC debate.

hotmail.com

salmocab wrote: »

Surely calling people names is exactly where the American presidency has dragged everything around it to? Name calling like a moronic 7 year old is his thing and his supporters seem to be happy with the level things have got to.

Only name calling I see is from people constantly slagging off Trump supporters.

salmocab

hotmail.com wrote: »

Only name calling I see is from people constantly slagging off Trump supporters.

You should read Trumps tweets so, you’ll be outraged.

hotmail.com

Christy42 wrote: »

Are you suggesting are attitude should be lol what is he like. Thousands of lives at risk because of him. Classic Trump?

He is the man in charge here when there is the potential of a serious epidemic to break out. Why exactly would people not take that seriously.


As for name calling. The poster only called those who believe the virus is a hoax (i.e. believe Trump) or who believe the virus isn't a big deal (we have many people dead already) insane. Which of those two groups are you going to defend here?

Disparaging a whole set of people as insane is offensive.

Igotadose

In other news, there's a deal with the Taliban. I hope it succeeds and if it does, it's a feather in Trump's cap, no doubt about it in my mind. Neither of his predecessors have managed it. Per the reporting the first drawdown is about 5000 of the 13,000 troops there.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/485266-us-taliban-sign-deal-to-withdraw-troops-from-afghanistan

everlast75

hotmail.com wrote: »

Disparaging a whole set of people as insane is offensive.

When you've quit clutching your pearls in mock outragr, perhaps you could voice your opinion on this question.

Does Trump believe that his statements about the Corona virus are true* or is he lying to the public about them on purpose?


*they are not true

duploelabs

hotmail.com wrote: »

Only name calling I see is from people constantly slagging off Trump supporters.

Nervous Nancy

Shifty Schiff

Crooked Hillary

Pocahontas

Sleepy Joe

who conceived all these nicknames?

blackcard

duploelabs wrote: »

Nervous Nancy

Shifty Schiff

Crooked Hillary

Pocahontas

Sleepy Joe

who conceived all these nicknames?

Lying Ted
Little Marco
Crying Chuck
Crazy Bernie
Little Mike

Outlaw Pete

duploelabs wrote: »

I think we've reached peak Trump.
He's now saying that coronavirus is the new democratic hoax.

He said nothing of the sort and that you (collective you) have to resort to these lies is very telling. Once again anti-Trumpers and the MSM quote Trump totally out of context just so that they can misrepresent what he has said and express faux outrage and concern over it. Yawn.

It was CRYSTAL bloody clear that the "new hoax" he referenced was that the "Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus" so that they can then say his administration aren't doing a good job in tackling it. THAT is what he called their "new hoax" and quite CLEARLY too, his comments were not remotely ambiguous.

He also then said that they would do "everything in their power" to keep the numbers down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TZ6fTYrsE

But wait, Trump thinks the virus is a hoax (according to the anti-Trump regulars on here) and so why would he speak about his administration doing 'everything in their power' it so, if the virus is just a hoax? Hhmm

everlast75 wrote: »

Believe what he is saying, which is manifestly insane..

Hang on, you're suggesting that if people believe Trump saying something which he didn't say, they're insane? Haha, the irony :P

sid waddell

Apparently tax cuts will now stop the spread of the Coronavirus.

Has Trump thought of building a wall to stop its spread?

The spread of the "hoax" that only exists in the minds of Democrats, that is.

briany

Trump may be a narcissistic spoofer who has no real business being POTUS, but you do have to say that the nicknames he uses are effective. Effective in the sense that they stick to their targets like glue. Pocahontas is one of the most notorious examples. Warren did it to herself, somewhat, but talking about her non-existent heritage, but Trump really stuck the knife in on it. It's made it hard to take her seriously.

People call Trump a moron, but that's not really the case. It's actually pretty dangerous to think of him as one because it lulls us into this complacency that the problem will take care of itself, which has not so far happened. The truth is that he was able to make a whole class of lifer politicians look pretty weak and foolish back in 2016, chief among them being 'Low Energy' Jeb Bush. Trump did everything but give him a nuggie.

And Trump may have coarsened political discourse in the States, but maybe their discourse has to go in that direction for a while. I think that country has some real s**t it needs to work through, and maybe the only way they can get through it is by having it out.

In other words, all the racism and devolution of thought on which Trump has swept to power, people like Michael Moore seem like they'd be happy if some guy beat Trump this year, and that was all swept under the carpet. Would it not be better to really confront those issues rather than doing the same old, same old, and shoving them back into the closet where they fester for another few decades?

sid waddell

duploelabs wrote: »

I think we've reached peak Trump.
He's now saying that coronavirus is the new democratic hoax.

To deny that Trump had said "Coronavirus is the new Democratic hoax", Outlaw Pete just posted a video from the right-wing Daily Telegraph titled, wait for it: "Donald Trump: Coronavirus is Democrats' 'new hoax'".

Absolute scenes.

moon2

sid waddell wrote: »

To deny that Trump had said "Coronavirus is the new Democratic hoax", Outlaw Pete just posted a video from the right-wing Daily Telegraph titled, wait for it: "Donald Trump: Coronavirus is Democrats' 'new hoax'".

Absolute scenes.

That's nearly enough for me to review my block list so I can see the post in all its glory. I had gotten tired of reading blatant hypocrisy and untruths.

duploelabs

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He said nothing of the sort and that you (collective you) have to resort to these lies is very telling. Once again anti-Trumpers and the MSM quote Trump totally out of context just so that they can misrepresent what he has said and express faux outrage and concern over it. Yawn.

It was CRYSTAL bloody clear that the "new hoax" he referenced was that the "Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus" so that they can then say his administration aren't doing a good job in tackling it. THAT is what he called their "new hoax" and quite CLEARLY too, his comments were not remotely ambiguous.

He also then said that they would do "everything in their power" to keep the numbers down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TZ6fTYrsE

But wait, Trump thinks the virus is a hoax (according to the anti-Trump regulars on here) and so why would he speak about his administration doing 'everything in their power' it so, if the virus is just a hoax? Hhmm



Hang on, you're suggesting that if people believe Trump saying something which he didn't say, they're insane? Haha, the irony :P

Ok then,

Do you think that Trump understands the definition of 'Hoax'?
as per this...
Hoax
/həʊks/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a humorous or malicious deception.

And please just a yes or no answer will suffice, not reams and reams of codswhallop

aloyisious

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He said nothing of the sort and that you (collective you) have to resort to these lies is very telling. Once again anti-Trumpers and the MSM quote Trump totally out of context just so that they can misrepresent what he has said and express faux outrage and concern over it. Yawn.

It was CRYSTAL bloody clear that the "new hoax" he referenced was that the "Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus" so that they can then say his administration aren't doing a good job in tackling it.

Re the "Democrats politicizing the coronavirus" so that they can then say his administration aren't doing a good job in tackling it, isn't it the job of the opposition to keep the administration on its toes duty-wise? Re faux outrage and concern over statements, is your yawn likewise not a display of "faux outrage"?

You, like others here, can access what Don has said about the Coronavirus outbreak in the US. Perhaps you can examine what he said during his media interviews and the media briefing he gave with the Health experts he's employing to fight the virus and see if there is are any contradictions between his statements and the health experts statements, then come back and tell us what your considered conclusions are on the validity of Dons statements about the virus outbreak.

What is your opinion on the appointment of Mike Pence to be the voice of the administration on the virus outbreak? Is it a true sign of how serious Don is taking the issue, that it has Don really scared about the citizens getting antsy about their healthcare now there is a likelihood of a coronavirus pandemic hitting the US becoming something he cant say is a hoax created by the opposition party, that Don doesn't want anyone except him voicing an opinion on the outbreak?

sid waddell

What "Outlaw Pete" is saying is that if a president is doing a manifestly terrible job of protecting the citizens of his country from a pandemic, nobody should utter a word of criticism.

That's not deranged cult like behaviour at all at all.