Flight 752 brought down by Iran - mod warning in |OP

nullzero

iebamm2580 wrote: »

For somebody with so many posts you have lost any credibility with this pedantic nonsense, admit you were wrong and be on your way to another failed crusade.

Most of those posts are one liners arguing pointless nonsense.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

What effect does a ballistic missile have on a plane then?

It damaged the plane with shrapnel. It set an engine on fire. It caused the plane to crash. It didn’t blow up the plane, and the plane did not explode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

It damaged the plane with shrapnel. It set an engine on fire. It caused the plane to crash. .

Said whom exactly

iebamm2580

Gatling wrote: »

Said whom exactly

An unidentified source id imagine.

GooglePlus

alastair wrote: »

It damaged the plane with shrapnel. It set an engine on fire. It caused the plane to crash. It didn’t blow up the plane, and the plane did not explode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html

What was that big ball of fire when it hit the ground?

iebamm2580

alastair wrote: »

It damaged the plane with shrapnel. It set an engine on fire. It caused the plane to crash. It didn’t blow up the plane, and the plane did not explode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html

"A small explosion occurred when what appears to be a missile hit the plane above Parand".

Jesus do you ever read the links you post.

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

It damaged the plane with shrapnel. It set an engine on fire. It caused the plane to crash. It didn’t blow up the plane, and the plane did not explode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html

Did you even read the link. It said a small explosion occurred when the missile hit the plane. So it blew up. Genius.

alastair

GooglePlus wrote: »

What was that big ball of fire when it hit the ground?

That was a crash. Not a plane being blown up.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

Did you even read the link. It said a small explosion occurred when the missile hit the plane. So it blew up. Genius.

but the plane did not explode

Missiles explode. The missile exploded near the plane, that’s how they work. If I peg a grenade at you, which explodes - the grenade or you?

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

Missiles explode. The missile exploded near the plane, that’s how they work. If I peg a grenade at you, which explodes - the grenade or you?

It struck the plane. It didn't explode near it.

iebamm2580

alastair wrote: »

Missiles explode. The missile exploded near the plane, that’s how they work. If I peg a grenade at you, which explodes - the grenade or you?

If the missile exploded near the plane- you mean fresh air, ha, you are a comedic genius i hope.

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

Missiles explode. The missile exploded near the plane, that’s how they work. If I peg a grenade at you, which explodes - the grenade or you?

The grenade and I would both explode.

Boggles

nullzero wrote: »

It struck the plane. It didn't explode near it.

They are designed to blow up "beside it", not hit it.

I didn't actually know that either until this incident.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

It struck the plane. It didn't explode near it.

Nope. It exploded near it. That’s how they work. Proximity fuses.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

The grenade and I would both explode.

Nope. You would not explode.

seannash

Wow lads, That's some real pedantic stuff from the two of you. Just call it a draw yeah?

alastair

iebamm2580 wrote: »

If the missile exploded near the plane- you mean fresh air, ha, you are a comedic genius i hope.

That’s how they work. 🤷🏻*♂️

Gatling

nullzero wrote: »

It struck the plane. It didn't explode near it.

Actually Anti aircraft missiles don't hit planes they dentonate at close Proximity to the plane and shredding it thousands of pieces of shrapnel, causing the plane to explode in mid air

TheValeyard

I'm done. I'm not sure if people are taking the piss, trolling, pedantic, or genuinely in the conspiracy camp.




Iran, tragically, blew up their own plane with a missile and a lot of innocent people minding their own business, died.

A mixture of nerves, poor training, led to tragedy.

At least in the end, Iran admitted their mistakes. But I hope the commander responsible, gets a fair trial and we hear the reasoning behind his decision. Hopefully the families can find some comfort in the truth of what happened. And at the end of the day, that's what matter most.

RIP to the victims.

And some people here seriously need to grow up.

/I'm done.

nullzero

Gatling wrote: »

Actually Anti aircraft missiles don't hit planes the dentomate at close Proximity to the plane and shredding it thousands of pieces of shrapnel, causing the plane to explode in mid air

I stand corrected so, it still caused the plane to explode.

iebamm2580

Gatling wrote: »

Actually Anti aircraft missiles don't hit planes the dentomate at close Proximity to the plane and shredding it thousands of pieces of shrapnel

Ok i can admit when im wrong i thought it hit the plane.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

I stand corrected so, it still caused the plane to explode.

It caused the plane to crash. It shot it down. Different thing.

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

It caused the plane to crash. It shot it down. Different thing.

The shrapnel cause an explosion which then caused the plane to crash to the ground.

markodaly

alastair wrote: »

Show me a post where I’m wrong? Once again - the initial reports from US intelligence were that there was no evidence of a missile hitting the plane. That’s a matter of record. I believed nothing until evidence was provided. As anyone should.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-crash-canada-intelligence/western-intelligence-agencies-see-no-signs-ukraine-airliner-was-shot-down-canadian-source-idUSKBN1Z72Q7

The link provided doesn't state this at all.

iebamm2580

alastair wrote: »

It caused the plane to crash. It shot it down. Different thing.

You posted nobody blew up a plane stop being pedantic and admit you were wrong. Its obvious you meant iran didnt fire a missile at the plane. Its ok to be wrong you know.

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

The shrapnel cause an explosion which then caused the plane to crash to the ground.

Nope. The shrapnel knocked a bunch of holes in the plane. It set an engine on fire. It caused the crash.

alastair

markodaly wrote: »

The link provided doesn't state this at all.

It does:

The initial assessment of Western intelligence agencies is that the plane was not brought down by a missile. There is no evidence to suggest that

alastair

iebamm2580 wrote: »

You posted nobody blew up a plane stop being pedantic and admit you were wrong. Its obvious you meant iran didnt fire a missile at the plane. Its ok to be wrong you know.

It’s rather more obvious what I actually posted. Which was correct.

BluePlanet

I read early on that normally with a missile strike the plane gets broken up in air and basically drops to ground, whereas in this case it looked like one engine was on fire and the plane glided down, blew up on impact.

So as missile strikes go its a little atypical.

The Rooster

alastair wrote: »

The odds of a non-military air accident don’t reduce simply because there’s military activity going on. So, no, there wasn’t only one possible explanation - hence the need for an investigation.

Ah come on Alastair, you're not really a moron, so stop pretending to be one.

The chance of an airplane accident killing 100+ people is absolutely miniscule.
4 billion people fly in passenger planes every year.

Of all the days in the year, this incident happened on the same day as Iran were firing rockets.
Of all the countries in the world, this incident happened in the same country that Iran were firing rockets in.

There was a 99.999999% chance this was caused by Iran
There was 0.000001% chance this was an accident.

As the lad in Dumb and Dumber said - "so you're saying there's still a chance?!".
Are you similar IQ to those lads?