The Weekend On One With Brendan O'Connor

Cole

Callan57 wrote: »

Self appointed "expert" definitely not independent with, to quote an old phrase, "skin in the game"! :rolleyes:

Yes...that was my point too.

Rabbit Redux

brooke 2 wrote: »

Anyone remember Dr. Harry Barry on the LLS telling people to go out to restaurants and the theatre, no need to stop enjoying ourselves?? I remember feeling absolutely furious as I watched that performance!! Anyone who kept up with the news could see how serious it was!!!

Thankfully, the powers that be eventually got their act together and have done a very good job keeping us safe, imo.

Presumably these "experts" would plead the Keynesian defence of "When the facts change, I change my mind".
It still doesn't negate the fact that one of our leading immunologists initially scoffed at the idea of the general populace having to wear face masks, and a travel writer referring to the Coronavirus as a "celebrity flu".
Then again, our media have the collective memory of a shoal of goldfish, so that makes everything okay.....

southstar

Rabbit Redux wrote: »

Presumably these "experts" would plead the Keynesian defence of "When the facts change, I change my mind".
It still doesn't negate the fact that one of our leading immunologists initially scoffed at the idea of the general populace having to wear face masks, and a travel writer referring to the Coronavirus as a "celebrity flu".
Then again, our media have the collective memory of a shoal of goldfish, so that makes everything okay.....

Those concerns about behaviour around use of facemasks are not unfounded though...Jesus I've seen people habitually fiddling with them then handling products/surfaces afterwards..would be far safer without in these cases

Rabbit Redux

southstar wrote: »

Those concerns about behaviour around use of facemasks are not unfounded though...Jesus I've seen people habitually fiddling with them then handling products/surfaces afterwards..would be far safer without in these cases

In general, the use of face masks provide more benefits than drawbacks, and the initial dismissive attitude towards their use had a lot more to do with the Coronavirus not being taken as seriously as it should have been.

southstar

Rabbit Redux wrote: »

In general, the use of face masks provide more benefits than drawbacks, and the initial dismissive attitude towards their use had a lot more to do with the Coronavirus not being taken as seriously as it should have been.

Well I doubt the medics I heard at the start were dismissive/not serious about Coronaviris..those with another agenda perhaps..

generalgerry

brooke 2 wrote: »

His position on masks has completely shifted. I even heard him strongly criticising 'Leo' for failing to make mask wearing mandatory about a month ago.

There has been a u-turn on masks here, in the UK, and in the US. Last week in the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGtyH0SYsc

Now I have heard different officials in the UK and US saying that they initially told people not to wear masks so that there would be enough masks available for those in healthcare and those that really need them.

My question to Luke O'Neill would be: Was his initial advice on masks based on political reasoning or scientific reasoning? Because the science on masks has not changed in four months, but his advice has.

Robert McGrath

generalgerry wrote: »

My question to Luke O'Neill would be: Was his initial advice on masks based on political reasoning or scientific reasoning? Because the science on masks has not changed in four months, but his advice has.

Is it true to say that the science hasn’t changed?

If there is a risk that improper use of masks could actually spread the virus, then there needs to be clear evidence that the benefits of mask use outweigh this risk.

From what I remember of recent interviews with Luke O’Neill, he always refers to what the evidence now shows. Cillian de Gascun had previously referred to a lack of evidence in this area for a while (presumably because it’s a new virus). We now have four months of studies and statistics of correlations of covid incidence and mask use that we didn’t have 4 months ago.

Maybe for scientists, the Keynes quote above should be paraphrased as “when the evidence changes, I change my mind”.

Beechwoodspark

For some reason BOC lectured everyone on how important Kanye Fcukin West is

Cole

This Kanye piece is like something you might read in the Sunday Independent.

generalgerry

Seems like mental health is fast becoming the go to for people to absolve themselves for their actions, and immediately turn those "cancel him" Twitter posts into "u ok hun?" Twitter posts. Much like pleading insanity in the courts.

Infoanon

generalgerry wrote: »

Seems like mental health is fast becoming the go to for people to absolve themselves for their actions, and immediately turn those "cancel him" Twitter posts into "u ok hun?" Twitter posts. Much like pleading insanity in the courts.

Kanye West has a history of mental health issues - I don't know why BOC ran this feature - it's old news at this stage.

Similarly it's been known for weeks that those on the PUP scheme would not get paid while on holidays yet it was spun as news with faux outrage this morning.

Mav11

generalgerry wrote: »

There has been a u-turn on masks here, in the UK, and in the US. Last week in the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGtyH0SYsc

Now I have heard different officials in the UK and US saying that they initially told people not to wear masks so that there would be enough masks available for those in healthcare and those that really need them.

My question to Luke O'Neill would be: Was his initial advice on masks based on political reasoning or scientific reasoning? Because the science on masks has not changed in four months, but his advice has.

Four months ago the science indicated that the wearing of masks offered little or no protection to the wearer. This remains valid.
However science has subsequently indicated that the wearing of masks can protect others. AFAIK this is the basis for the change in advice.

tampopo

elperello wrote: »

Eye watering renumeration all right

Have you guys hired any consultants lately.

Check out their hourly rate on the invoices.

Wasn't Conor Pope getting €40 per contribution to the Mooney/Darcy programme?

tampopo

tampopo wrote: »

Wasn't Conor Pope getting €40 per contribution to the Mooney/Darcy programme?

Moncrieff, but yeah, there's no way RTE are paying consultancy-type fees for the likes of Luke O'Neill either. Consultancy fees to organisations usually involves research and reporting, not a 10 minute phone chat or a general panel discussion.

tampopo

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Moncrieff, but yeah, there's no way RTE are paying consultancy-type fees for the likes of Luke O'Neill either. Consultancy fees to organisations usually involves research and reporting, not a 10 minute phone chat or a general panel discussion.

Ah, ok.

Dan Jaman

Cole wrote: »

This Kanye piece is like something you might read in the Sunday Independent.

That was a piece of total showbiz drivel and gossip.
I very rarely catch the show these days, but cocked an ear to it in passing. I wondered if I'd accidentally tuned into some local radio celeb gossip slot.

delaad

Dan Jaman wrote: »

That was a piece of total showbiz drivel and gossip.
I very rarely catch the show these days, but cocked an ear to it in passing. I wondered if I'd accidentally tuned into some local radio celeb gossip slot.

It was astonishing really. O'Connor is besotted with celebrity.

But maybe the fact that he got notariety with his "Jesus in the house" rap, dressed as a priest has something to do with it in this case.

Maybe also in the moment he saw himself as the Irish John the Baptist of rap.

Spanish Eyes

I gave him a pass for weeks to keep an open mind, but BOC is not for me sorry. Too drony of voice, and too vacuous of topics.

The Saturday stint is just so boring. The Sunday is not much better.

I enjoy the Sunday Newstalk show with Gavan Reilly. Much more buzzy and interesting. I know we are all different, but RTE is not pushing my buttons anymore.

robo

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I gave him a pass for weeks to keep an open mind, but BOC is not for me sorry. Too drony of voice, and too vacuous of topics.

The Saturday stint is just so boring. The Sunday is not much better.

I enjoy the Sunday Newstalk show with Gavan Reilly. Much more buzzy and interesting. I know we are all different, but RTE is not pushing my buttons anymore.

Gotta agree with you, Gavan Reilly is so much more dynamic and like Sarah Mcinery, he too will admit when he doesn't always understand the political spin/guff that BOC just takes from the politicians.

Cole

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I enjoy the Sunday Newstalk show with Gavan Reilly. Much more buzzy and interesting. I know we are all different, but RTE is not pushing my buttons anymore.

BOC's show is not going well at all, so I gave Gavan Reilly a try for a few weeks (well kind of back and forth to RTE). I think he's good, but the the format doesn't work for me. It always seemed to be an interview with a politician to kick off, 2 contributors on the panel (and Colette Brown was on twice in a few weeks!) and about quarter of an hour of sports analysis towards the end...maybe a couple of other short bits and bobs thrown in.

A shame

spakman

Cole wrote: »

BOC's show is not going well at all, so I gave Gavan Reilly a try for a few weeks (well kind of back and forth to RTE). I think he's good, but the the format doesn't work for me. It always seemed to be an interview with a politician to kick off, 2 contributors on the panel (and Colette Brown was on twice in a few weeks!) and about quarter of an hour of sports analysis towards the end...maybe a couple of other short bits and bobs thrown in.

A shame

You haven't said what's wrong with that format though, or what would improve it.

Cole

spakman wrote: »

You haven't said what's wrong with that format though, or what would improve it.

Drop the politician interview and the sporting analysis (more than enough at the weekend) and add a couple more contributors.

Spanish Eyes

Cole wrote: »

Drop the politician interview and the sporting analysis (more than enough at the weekend) and add a couple more contributors.

I would agree with you about the sports segment. The entire afternoon on NT is devoted to sport anyway.

I enjoy the historian guy though, that's a good fit I think. But look we are all different, and you can't please everyone.

I think it's the energy of the show and the buzz of it that I like, well compared to the grey boring feeling of RTE anyway.

Cole

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I enjoy the historian guy though, that's a good fit I think.

Yes, I agree.

I just think BOC is not a good fit and the celeb type stuff (like the Kanye West thing this morning) seems more prominent. Even though Marian had some ropey shows, I still stayed tuned in...but switch over/off quite a bit now.

Kanye is a bit beyond just being a celebrity in fairness. You could fairly attribute the word cultural icon to him. If not, surely everyone accepts that what he produces is considered to be of cultural relevance.

If you were in your teens or 20s when Kanye came out, you're now in your 30s or 40s, and are part of the target audience for this programme. I'm surprised that today's segment would be considered a "celeb" topic anymore than discussion of Bob Dylan or Freddie Mercury would be considered "celeb items".

Dan Jaman

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I'm surprised that today's segment would be considered a "celeb" topic anymore than discussion of Bob Dylan or Freddie Mercury would be considered "celeb items".

Of course they are.
Utterly transient and frothy, no more worthy of consideration than a dandelion in my front yard.

Joe_ Public

Felt a bit like i was listening to a college radio segment at times (no offence to college radio) with a mature try hard presenter predictably failing to get down with the kids. As soon as the name kardashian came up, had to quickly zone out. Couldnt take any more.

Mossie1975

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I gave him a pass for weeks to keep an open mind, but BOC is not for me sorry. Too drony of voice, and too vacuous of topics.

The Saturday stint is just so boring. The Sunday is not much better.

I enjoy the Sunday Newstalk show with Gavan Reilly. Much more buzzy and interesting. I know we are all different, but RTE is not pushing my buttons anymore.

It will be interesting to see the JNLR figures for his show. I’m not enjoying it these weekends. Have been impressed with Reilly’s poltitical reports on TV so I’ll give his show a go.

PieOhMy

Really enjoying today's show. Damien O'Reilly doing a great job I think, very interesting and engaged conversations on health and fitness and kanye west/bipolar. Not a hint of misery mining and I have no idea of the hosts own opinions after listening to the discussion. Very interesting show, the right mix of substance but not too lightweight either.

Pelvis Parsley

Yes, fully agree-I thoroughly enjoyed the show today.

Spanish Eyes

PieOhMy wrote: »

Really enjoying today's show. Damien O'Reilly doing a great job I think, very interesting and engaged conversations on health and fitness and kanye west/bipolar. Not a hint of misery mining and I have no idea of the hosts own opinions after listening to the discussion. Very interesting show, the right mix of substance but not too lightweight either.

I listened right through, which is unheard of when BOC is onboard. Much improved now and upbeat with interesting topics. Full marks Damien.

robo

PieOhMy wrote: »

Really enjoying today's show. Damien O'Reilly doing a great job I think, very interesting and engaged conversations on health and fitness and kanye west/bipolar. Not a hint of misery mining and I have no idea of the hosts own opinions after listening to the discussion. Very interesting show, the right mix of substance but not too lightweight either.

Was sneeking onto this thread to see if others like me, actually enjoyed todays show and you did! Wow...cos I was never a great fan of Damien on Liveline (compared to Katie) - but Damien was good!

Tork

robo wrote: »

Was sneeking onto this thread to see if others like me, actually enjoyed todays show and you did! Wow...cos I was never a great fan of Damien on Liveline (compared to Katie) - but Damien was good!

It's a different kind of show and probably a format better suited to Damien. What a pity they pulled the trigger so soon and gave Brendan the job.

Mav11

Tork wrote: »

It's a different kind of show and probably a format better suited to Damien. What a pity they pulled the trigger so soon and gave Brendan the job.

Is BOC on term time again?

Mossie1975

I find Damian’s voice easier to listen to (and I’m a fan of the Cork accent).

Beechwoodspark

I’d prefer Damien to BOC.

generalgerry

Once again, all those saying "we need to do what we're told" - all public servants, academics, politicians with no skin in the game, they all get paid either way. Put them on 350 a week then ask them how they feel about the risk.

On Damien, I think he is a lot more forthright than he used to be. I always remember him as being this lovable and harmless oul eejit, but he seems to be trying hard here, almost like he is throwing his hat in for any future jobs. Maybe Liveline. Though they will be carrying Duffy away from the Liveline mic in a box.

Cole

Good again today. Damien's just a better radio presenter than BOC. Similar topics/guests but more engaging and effective when Damien's presenting. If he could only stop his medical guest (Cliona Ni Cheallaigh) from constantly using "absoluuuutely" when agreeing with a point, he'd get full marks.

Infoanon

Prefer Damien to BOC but he let himself down asking leading questions about the pubs.

PieOhMy

Mentioned there that he was doing some prep work last night on the saw doctors and the homework being done shows through on air. Also saying reeling in the years has been on 40 times haha

Mad_maxx

Mossie1975 wrote: »

I find Damian’s voice easier to listen to (and I’m a fan of the Cork accent).

BOC has an annoying voice, it's not the accent

Chalk McHugh

Who's this new tough Damien guy i'm reading about here? Surely not the same watery, safe pair of hands, never ask the hard questions, RTE lifer that did Liveline for a while? Not a chance i'd tune in to this programme with this lad.

Beechwoodspark

Oh ffs

This is a bad joke.

I was just remarking a few days ago that every bloody time this Liam geraghty guy is on RTÉ he’s on about the muppets

He uses the same clips and music every time

And here he is again...

Beechwoodspark

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Same guy who was on the arts show last week? Sounds the same anyway.

I’ve heard him do pieces on the muppets probably 6 times over the last 12 months. It seems to be his one area of speciality. I find it bizarre.

generalgerry

Interesting and original piece on The Muppets there. Really fascinating.

Beechwoodspark

It’s almost as if they go,

Feck, we have to fill 5 minutes of time during the second half of the show

- Ring the muppets guy again

Infoanon

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’s almost as if they go,

Feck, we have to fill 5 minutes of time during the second half of the show

- Ring the muppets guy again

A lot of filling in the second hour today

generalgerry

Miss Piggy, the first feminist icon.
Kermit, the first openly gay presenter
The Bald Eagle, the first newsreader with Asperger's

Brendan Bendar

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Who's this new tough Damien guy i'm reading about here? Surely not the same watery, safe pair of hands, never ask the hard questions, RTE lifer that did Liveline for a while? Not a chance i'd tune in to this programme with this lad.

It’s not that kind of show, my friend.

Shows promise in my opinion.

Damien O'Reilly has found his ideal niche if you ask me. He's good on Countrywide, but I wouldn't get the impression he's particularly passionate for farming. He was interviewing a really interesting farmer about biodiversity a couple of weeks back, and O'Reilly's boredom was nearly audible.

He's performing out of his skin on this programme. I like Brendan O'Connor but would much prefer to see O'Reilly in this slot. Very sharp, well prepared, and he has more of a voice for radio than O'Connor has.